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So I'm reading some Marx right now because I figured it might be somewhat interesting to understand what this dude said because he's historically imporant, and oh my god how did anyone take him seriously at all?
I'm reading Value, Price, and Profit and he's just so obviously wrong on basic economics and even fucking logic. He just takes random leaps and invents new terms whenever he needs to somehow justify how the simple act of production is exploitative.
Marx proposes that the “common social substance of all commodities” is labor, and...
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you should probably read a primer or something before doing this
all leftists are hacks
>>7865429
>Even if you spend 500 man hours making a song, if I don't like it it's worthless
What made you think you were labor of a higher order?
I just came back from my local art gallery, and I've never felt more retarded in my life. Do you recommend any books about understanding art?
Not sure if I would get a better answer here of on /ic/
>>7864782
My advice is 99.999% of all art is shit
if you didn't like what you saw it was shit.
Theres no "getting it".
>>7864782
What was showcased there?
This is closest I have as to understanding of art, without the bull.
Sincerely, is Albert Camus' work worth reading?
yes it is.
Hopefully.
Of course. I don't really like his philosophy but his stuff is worth checking out. Honestly if you have the time its always better to actually read something you have interest in. Unless you just want to be a meme poster like everyone here.
if you're underage.
if you're over the emotional age of 14 you will recognize it for the cliche tripe it is.
Are any editions of Lot 49 and Gravity's Rainbow better than the rest? Or are they all on par with each other?
Vintage for the cover
>>7863326
Gravity's Rainbow the Penguin "deluxe" edition has some typos and shit so avoid it.
C49 is fine
make sure to get the Penguins Deluxe edition of Gravity's Rainbow. It might be a little bit more ex(pens)ive, but it's worth it, trust me. At least if you get this edition, you won't have to ask for recom(pens)e after buying it. It's a truly indis(pens)able edition because of all the corrections in it.
On average, how many pages do you read a day?
easily 300 counting whatsapp texts and facebook
All of them.
Nobody reads anymore.
Let's get one of these threads going:
Check=read
Circle=backlog
Rate/hate/debate and recommend which book from their backlog an anon should read next.
post original faglord
Template for the lazy.
green = read
was gonna do red for not interested and blue for interested to read but didn't feel like it
I became an avid reader like three months ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching tv and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.
Here's how I did it.
-Remember the average person reads like zero books a year. If you read 5 pages a day, you are 5 pages above the average person
-Don't force yourself to read. Commit to read 5 pages a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like reading more and after a month or so you should be reading 50-100 pages a day for pleasure
-Read various books at the same time. When I grab a difficult...
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>>7862210
>Start with books highly discussed here so you feel motivated to discuss.
have you read the very short, easily comprehensible and accesible short story infinte jest?
people on here love it and I would really like to talk with someone about it :)
>>7862224
newfag alert
Positive move anon. It's a habit as easy to establish as any other. Start small, work your way up. Too bad most people will never muster the will to read even two pages a few days in a row.
Was the Kid Diddler Nabokov right about Faulkner?
>Dislike him. Writer of corncobby chronicles. To consider them masterpieces is an absurd delusion. A nonentity, means absolutely nothing to me.
Also, what the fuck does "corncobby" mean?
>>7862074
Corncobby - the whole farmer, southern vibe that Faulkner had. Used as pejorative here to denote that Faulkner was unsophisticated, uneducated, etc. Not a valid criticism in my opinion.
Nabokov is right that Faulkner's works aren't masterpieces, but neither are his own works.
>>7862074
Say what you will about Nabokov but his criticisms were pretty amusing.
>>7862074
Corncobby is a reference to a scene in Sanctuary where a sadistic but impotent gangster rapes a woman with a corncob.
For a while, especially in Europe, Sanctuary was Faulkners most popular novel. Faulkner himself considered it a cynical attempt to make money.
What are some red flags that someone would make a shitty philosopher or at least shouldn't enter formal philosophical education? I'm a neet, my days consist of contemplation and memes. Dipped my toes in most of the memes (besides the greeks lel), have lots of question, need formal basis.
Thing is I get the feeling that I wouldn't be able to keep up because I would overanalyze and waste time on all the wrong stuff plus I would have to act like I'm interested in debating anyone when really I'm not. My debating skills are 0/10, all I can do is ask...
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>I'm a neet
There's your red flag.
if you ask questions that tend to shut people up you are either talking with dumbs or you're a retard. Don't dive into the greeks if you think you'll overanalise them. They suck and only say shit. Just give it a slight brush like a compilation a summary and go read more recent philosophy like I think bertrand russel talks some good smack (i'm not really into philosophy)
>>7861889
>and insanely hot girls
Really?
So what's the deal with Kaufman versus Ludovici, particularly with regards to their separate renditions of the Will to Power?
Is Kaufman truly a "pernicious Jewish scholar" who wanted to sanitize and liberalize Nietzsche, as that copypasta says? Or is Ludovici just a dunderhead lacking skill in German who I shouldn't bother reading?
I've read Kaufman translations before, and while I prefer Hollingdale on most things I thoroughly enjoyed his fine usage of the English language and his skill in tracking down allusions. However, his commentaries...
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Kaufman's translations themselves are fine. It's only in the notes that he gets iffy. Ludovici, on the other hand, completely butchers Nietzsche. This is not a question for serious scholars. Only autistic neonazis prefer Ludovici.
>>7861653
Are you sure about this? I listened to the preface and the first book of Ludovici's translation and it seemed fine to me. Perhaps later on he starts becoming nazi?
>>7861569
Was Nietzsche actually a fan of anything apart from mountains
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/what_white_people_are_hiding.htm
Im tired of seeing white bullshit here all the time.
Why dont you niggas post some of the real shit. Oh I forgot, because shakespeare was black and you guys lied
>>7859304
touche OP
Name one black author who wrote about anything other than the struggles of being black.
Autobiography of Malcolm X is necessary. Native Son, Invisible Man, If He Hollers Let Him Go, and Go Tell It On the Mountain/Giovanni's Room are all necessary African American fiction. For non-fiction I've been really into Fanon, Fred Moten, and of course Baldwin's essays. The Fire Next Time is probably the quintessential non-fiction introduction on the epistemological underpinnings of what it means to be black in America. Shit is so heavy.
What are some great bits of literature that involves cats? Everything from the house cat (pic related) to tigers (Life of Pi).
I'm revising a large narrative involving felines and I want to work in a few interextual references.
And also because books with cats make me feel all cozy inside.
>>7863416
A Passion in the Desert, from Balzac's The Human Comedy.
It about a French soldier lost in the desert who finds himself sharing a cave with a panther. If memory serves, it heavily implied that the solder wants to fuck the panther, and eventually succeeds symbolically with his dagger.
murakami
It's been a long time since I've read it, but Kafka on the Shore had an interesting paranormal thing going on with cats. Maybe you'll enjoy it.
>At Barnes and Noble
>Sci-fi section is next to Romance
>Wander into Romance
>There are only three covers: Woman in fancy dress, shirtless dude, man and woman kissing
>Literally every cover is one of these three things
>at borders
>Faith and Spirituality is next to Fantasy
>Wander into Fantasy
>There are only three covers: A man holding a sword, A man staring out over a landscape, or a dragon
>Literally every cover is one of these things
>>7862951
>>Faith and Spirituality is next to Fantasy
wew
did you know that book publishing revenues increased, even during depression? this is the reason
Lets discuss all the authors who have committed suicide.
What drives them to have higher suicide rates and what factors let to specific authors to take themselves off the map?
After four attempts on his own life, Osamu Dazai committed suicide in June 1948. His body and that of his mistress were found floating in a river in the Tokyo neighborhood of Mitaka.
There are only a few authors who have committed suicide. And while they had a good following (Hunter, Wallace). Their have been few authors who have shaped literature itself, whom have killed themselves.
During a bout of depression Hart Crane reportedly threw himself overboard after shouting "Goodbye, everybody!"
>reading Plato
>so much oil
>reading Homer
>god damn oil is everywhere
why were the greeks so oily?
>>7860949
Because oil was a tradeable commodity back then, importante for economy. Also, because they covered their muscular bodies in oil to battle and discuss philosophy.
>>7860949
Plenty of oil in the bible too (iirc).
Is it just a mediterrenean thing?
>>7860975
Yes, olive trees grow there.
