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Just finished The Road.

It was a perfect book plus two pages.
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>>7628987
babby's first post
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>>7628987
Which 2?
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>>7628987
The story to me only works if it is the story of the last child on Earth.
I thought that was the entire point of the roasted baby scene. To establish that no more children can survive in this world. The man and his boy were only able to live so long through a series of serious good luck. That this truly is, and has been from the beginning, a world utterly without hope. It is about finding meaning in life even without hope, the beauty in the fact that this is the last child the world will ever see and he was able to experience love and goodness. That the last moments before the human race is extinguished can have joy.

And then some dude with a parka and a shotgun and a family somehow just shows up. Just there. All of a sudden. What do they live on? Fuck if I know.

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>reading anything other than non-fiction
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>reading anything other than fiction
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>watching genre television
>bragging about being culturally illiterate
>posting on /lit/ when you're clearly too stupid for literature
Fuck off
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>>7628910
>too stupid for literature
>says someone who reads fantasy stories and gains no real knowledge from it
sure anon

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are there any great horror novels?
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I know lit's got a bug up its ass about King but Misery I think is genuinely both a beautiful and haunting horror novel.
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>>7628861
I read this the week my cousin died when I was 10. When the coffin is overturned I threw the book on the floor and didnt finish it for another 5 years or so. Huge impact on my young life.

I think The Shining is also up there, as is the Hellbound Heart and Books of Blood Vol 1

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ayy lit, its been awhile. What are you guys writing about? share and review. hows that post industrialist pro-communsim piece coming along?
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well my first published erotica is doing really well while my untamed rants about being a poor kid at a prep school are doing horribly. how about you, OP? whatcha got on your mind?
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> hows that post industrialist pro-communsim piece coming along?
nothing i will ever write can ever beat Bogdanov's Red Star
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>>7628667
I am writing about narcissism right now, but I write about ideal memories, mostly.

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Guys, I took a philosophy of race class and it's the first day and the teacher just dived straight into Hegel with no lube. "You guys are all up to date on your Phenomenology of Spirit, right?"

What! No! This is undergrad and our school doesn't even have a formal course in Hegel.

I don't what's happening. Fuck, I just barely have Kant all straightened out.

You said philosophy would enlighten me. This is your fault /lit/.
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I got meme'd. Don't let it happen to you.
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Maybe you should take real classes.
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>>7628651
It is a real class. There are grad students sitting in on it because it's truly a well thought out and advanced course. We cover Hegel, Mill, Kant, and others. It's not social justice bullshit, it's actually interesting. I'm just drowning here.

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So I want to be an author. I'm sure most of us do. I did have a great stint back in 2014. I got really into writing short stories in the fall then did nanowrimo. It kicked my ass and burnt me out. 2k words a day then nothing since. I have not edited the novel or even re-read it.

Since then I had a baby and I'm looking for a new job. Life is busy, so I set a new goal of 200 words a day. Small potatoes but better than zero. Here are my issues:

I'm really into writing fiction, but only like reading non-fiction. I'm worried there is an issue with this.

I hardly ever read. I would lie and say I don't have time, but I fiddle away at least an hour browsing the chans when I should be reading. I guess after a long day I just want to do something mindless.

I know the best course is just to fucking write and read and I don't expect any pay off for a good few years, but I have spent 8 years building a world in my head and really want to share it with the world.
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1) read more
2) write more
3) ????
4) no profit!

honestly though just write. its gonna be shit and you're gonna hate it. then you edit it and you hate it a little less. so on and so forth. also, I'd recommend you write with pencil and paper instead of on a laptop or tablet or, god forbid, phone. it will help you in the end. if you're not creating you're simply not creating. so create.

I'm in the same boat as you though except I also am a songwriter. for 5 years now I've been struggling with actually creating when I want to. I'm moving into my first apartment next week and I'm looking forward to cultivating an environment where I will actually fukken write.

/lit/ is gonna shit on you though
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I became an avid reader like fifteen months ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching tv and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.

Here's how I did it.

-Remember the average person reads like zero books a year. If you read 5 pages a day, you are 5 pages above the average person

-Don't force yourself to read. Commit to read 5 pages a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like reading more and after a month or so you should be reading 50-100 pages a day for pleasure

-Read various books at the same time. When I grab a difficult book or one that makes me sleepy I grab another and switch. This should refresh your head. Keep them thematically different. I read economics and fiction.

-It isn't a race. Reading slowly won't make you sleepy that fast. Try to acknowledge what books are for you to read fast and which aren't.

-Buy the physical copies. When you get the books from your own money you'll feel the need to read them to avoid the feel of wasting your money.

-Start with books highly discussed here so you feel motivated to discuss.
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>>7628392

>/lit/ is gonna shit on you though

Well you didn't, and that's a great start. Any reason you think pen and paper helps? I used to do it all the time with notes on my world, but I have terrible hand writing and my hand cramps very easily. I do like the lack of distraction, but I could also use my laptop and not access internet.

I have to admit, after sitting at a computer all day the idea of real pen and paper is exciting. I also like to draw, so it could double as a sketch book.

what's the best book on the history of art?
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The Story of Art - Gombrich (spelling maybe I can't be arsed to google it)
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>>7628198
Gardner's Art Through the Ages is the bible of art history.
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>>7628198
It's definitely not the best, but in terms of enjoyement I recommend Umberto Eco's "History of Beauty" and "On Ugliness"

What are some instances when your thinking lined up directly with the author's?

For me, while reading ride the tiger
>But to avoid straying too far from my argument, the point is that the most acute forms of the modern existential crisis are appearing today at the margin of a civilization of prosperity, as witness the currents in the new generation that have been described. One sees there rebellion, dis- gust, and anger manifesting not in a wretched and oppressed subprole- tariat but often in young people who lack nothing, even in millionaires' children. And among other things it is a significant fact, statistically proven, that suicide is much rarer in poor countries than in rich ones, showing that the problematic life is felt more in the latter than in the former. Blank despair can occur right up to the finishing-post of socio- economic messianism, asln the musical comedy about a Utopian island where they have everything, "fun, women, and whiskey," but also the ever-recurrent sense of the emptiness of existence, the sense that some- thing is still missing.

Holy shit, reading this was just like going through my own thoughts, to the suicide statistic and everything.
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must suck to be you if this is how yo uthink
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>>7628057
not exactly accurate either
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>>7628072
God damn it what the fuck
How did I hear different then? Why does evola say different? This shakes up everything I believe in

I know there's a sticky, but I feel like it's not exactly extensive or offers enough for certain subjects.

So I thought we might just post what type of book we want to read and helpful anons will post books they think fit our needs.

I'd like to know more about the Ottoman Turks, does anyone know a good book about them?
Preferably written in a way that's appealing to people who aren't history majors too.
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I'd like one french book that's both a classic and not so hard to read.
My idea is to read this alongside its translation and, hopefully, learn a little bit of the language.

PS: I've read The Little Prince already, but the book I want now doesn't necessarily have to be that easy.

>>7627829
Sorry fami/lit/, I don't know any.
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Any recommendations for all things of, or about, Caodaism.
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>>7627829
I've heard good things about "Osman's Dream"

>>7628324
Blagov, Sergei (2012). Caodaism: Vietnamese Traditionalism and Its Leap Into Modernity. Nova Science Publishers. ISBN 1590331508

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I'm in the bookstore I have a bunch of credit. P&v or c. Garnett translation please help. Also Russian translation thread
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are those literally the only two translations they have? neither are ideal
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>>7627600
P&V would be better than Garnett I think.
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It's a small local shop I'm just trying to support him

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I never loved Don Delillo but his novels were always almost great and good enough to keep me looking for more of his work when I was bored. I also usually can't stand novels about writers.

Anyways, I came on here just to tell you guys that this might be the most beautiful work of American literature written since I was born (1989). I feel like it has these kaleidoscopic elements where scenes of crowds, terrorists, cities, media, mass production and art are always weaving into eachother seamlessly.

The plot opens with a writer who is going to come out of reclusiveness through new photographs but his last work will be intentionally endlessly worked on and edited so that it can't exist.

It's really beautiful. I feel like it doesn't get enough mention on here.
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>>7626984

Currently reading it and enjoying it. Just made it to chapter six. Interesting thoughts the qualities of the image and its relation to reality so far.

So far I agree with your observation of seamless interweaving. He pulls it off quite well.

It's far too early for me to form a comprehensive opinion on the work, but so far things are boding very well.

Still not liking it as much as White Noise, go ahead and call me a pleb, it's probably true. But then again, I'm only 1/4 through the work.
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>>7626984
>this might be the most beautiful work of American literature written since I was born
You haven't read The Tunnel.
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Don DeLillo thread?

I have an ebook of Underworld of only 623 pages, whereas it's actually supposed to be 823 pages long.
I've been wanting to read this so bad but I'm not because I think it's incomplete. Can you guys give me a nice little link for downloading the complete epub?

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Should I plunge right away or start with Dubliners?
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Dubs.
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Read it now and see how far you get before giving up. Then read it again in five years or so when you can actually enjoy it.

That's what I did at least.
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>>7626690

Start with Dubliners.

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Can anyone post the 100 books list that /lit/ did?
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here ya go
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>>7625379
Hello!
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>>7625379

Does the new "epic art" being produced by North Korean artists show us that there is an alternative to the degenerate art being peddled by gallery owners and other high culture merchants in capitalist centers like New York and London? The art dealers try to tell us that we live in post-modern times and that beautiful naturalistic art is dead, and that we should be happy to pony up our cash, be it for canvases or museum admission, to see simple shapes and splatters, and the occasional literal turd. The same way aggressive Japanese commercial expansion forced America out of it's 60s hangover with the influx of affordable quality cars and appliances will these new installations of truly epic art force American artists to snap out of their infantile regression into the primitive? Or is commodity art doomed to be inferior to great art commissioned by the strong?
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>>7624498
I cant even justify a tiny little aspect of this being literature.

>>/ic/
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>>7624586
yeah, but no one else is literate enough to talk about art and aesthetics, or critical enough to consider the affects of the economic system on culture production
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>>7624591
The entire population of this board are pretentious English major undergrads, many of whom wear tight pants suggesting an apathy towards capitalism or success. Just because they cruise through books does not mean any have gone to an art gallery.

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I'm about 110 pages into pic related, and I can't fucking stand Esther and I hope she's killed off soon. Was it Gaddis's intention to have her disliked?
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>killed off
>author's intentions
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>>7624256
you're not reading genre fiction and you're going to dislike most of the characters in this novel it's intentional
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>I dislike a certain character!
>I hope she's killed like this is some kind of soap
>what are the A U T H O R ' S I N T E N T I O N S ?
jesus fucking christ are you addicted to drugstore paperbacks?

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