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Is this the best translation of the bible?
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>>7625732
ya
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>>7625732
Most accurate: ASV
Most readable: HCSB
Both are from a different set of manuscripts than KJV 1611.
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if you don't actually care about the meaning and are retarded

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If someones aim to shitpost is to annoy and be influentially a disturbance, then in nature of the shitposter, must they feel the need to produce an original shitpost, or is their still the coining satisfaction in shitposting all ready other shitposts
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>>7625662
define annoy
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>>7625692
to irritate, to rustle someones jimmies
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>>7625662
wow op that sentence was shittily written, are you just a bad writer or trying to write like some continental homo, which reminds me, was derrida straight? he had swag for an old nigga, but u never see him with any hos

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So I've recently started working on my first non school related piece of creative writing (a novel). I know a lot of people on this board write, so I was wondering if their is any general advice about making a novel that would be beneficial to hear.
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It would help to create a table of contents in the beginning so it's easy to keep hold of the story. If you end up writing a bit and think a different way would be better, change it.
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>>7625585
A problem that I had early when I started writing was I was trying to make sure the reader actually got what I wanted to say that I ended up disregarding the story in exchange for the themes and symbolism. I guess my advice would be don't get too focused on what you want the reader to get from your work, just write a good story first and then focus on the themes later.
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>>7625585

Don't get too caught up in having a perfect opening sentence/paragraph/chapter to set the "feel" of your work. A good book will do that for itself over its course if you have enough talent, education, and attention to detail. Plus editing.

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Hello /lit/. I am a literature retard, being that I haven't really read any books besides one manga named Trigun. What should I start with? I check the wiki but it has books that doesn't interest me.
I think I want to read a book that has simple philosophy, or philosophy that anyone can understand. Fiction is preferably over non-fiction.
Does /lit/ has any recommendations for a retard?
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>>7625451
>simple philosophy
>fiction

You might want to look into a book titled Sophie's World
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>>7625451
Finnegans Wake
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>>7625451
You can't go wrong with Dostoevsky.

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I'm publishing my book on lulu. should I use my own name or meme that shit?
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>>7625248
Use your own name. You should be proud of your own work.

What's the short version on how lulu works?
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>>7625248
Anagram
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i thought it could be an epic meme

you purchase the isbn first, (or get them to send you the form which they need you to fill out so your book can be sold which also has a fee) then you get the library code which you put into the title page so your book can be filed in a library, then you design the cover and the layout so that all the pages look nice in a single pdf file of the correct size of the book which you purchased. they send you five for free and then you have to buy the rest based on book size. then...
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Kafka, March 1912:

>Who will confirm for me the truth or probability of the fact that solely as a result of my literary bent I am without interest in anything else, and heartless.

Yikes, hold me /lit/

Kafka General
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>>7625187
neat little freudian stories

short too

7.5/10
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>>7625187
cute stories if a little dragged out

7/10.
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>>7625192
>>7625212

>giving Kafka anything less than 9/10
>one of the greatest/most influential authors who wrote in German

Sickening, tbqh

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Have you ever felt 100% identified with a book? Can you relate to any book in particular?

In my case it would be The Tunnel by Ernesto Sabato. Long story short: I fell in love with this guy some years ago, but I'm sure he doesn't feel the same way about me. He's not gay anyway. We became best bros, then stopped talking, now I can't see a photo of him without wanting to kill myself. I'm thinking about killing him and them an hero.

>pic related
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>>7624933
Mein Kampf and My Twisted World

I'm redpilled, that's why
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so there's no spooky tunnel in this? it remidns me of the movie stalker, i wanna read a spooky tunnel book
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>>7624933
You do realize that you're fucking crazy like Castel was and that you need to seek help?

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Its Burns night.

Why isnt there any thread?
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Wee, sleekit, cow'rin, tim'rous beastie,
O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
Wi' bickering brattle!
I wad be laith to rin an' chase thee,
Wi' murd'ring pattle!

I'm truly sorry man's dominion,
Has broken nature's social union,
An' justifies that ill opinion,
Which makes thee startle
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion,
An' fellow-mortal!

I doubt na, whiles, but thou may thieve;
What then? poor beastie, thou maun live!
A daimen icker...
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When chapman billies leave the street,
And drouthy neibors, neibors, meet;
As market days are wearing late,
And folk begin to tak the gate,
While we sit bousing at the nappy,
An' getting fou and unco happy,
We think na on the lang Scots miles,
The mosses, waters, slaps and stiles,
That lie between us and our hame,
Where sits our sulky, sullen dame,
Gathering her brows like gathering storm,
Nursing her wrath to keep it warm.

This truth fand honest Tam o' Shanter,
As he frae Ayr ae night did canter:
(Auld Ayr, wham ne'er...
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Weel-mounted on his grey mare, Meg,
A better never lifted leg,
Tam skelpit on thro' dub and mire,
Despising wind, and rain, and fire;
Whiles holding fast his gude blue bonnet,
Whiles crooning o'er some auld Scots sonnet,
Whiles glow'rin round wi' prudent cares,
Lest bogles catch him unawares;
Kirk-Alloway was drawing nigh,
Where ghaists and houlets nightly cry.

By this time he was cross the ford,
Where in the snaw the chapman smoor'd;
And past the birks and meikle stane,
Where drunken Charlie brak's neck-bane;
And thro' the whins, and by the cairn,
Where hunters fand the murder'd bairn;
And near the thorn, aboon the well,
Where Mungo's mither hang'd hersel'.
Before him Doon pours all his floods,
The doubling storm roars thro' the woods,
The lightnings flash from pole to pole,
Near and more near the thunders roll,
When, glimmering thro' the groaning trees,
Kirk-Alloway seem'd in a bleeze,
Thro' ilka bore the beams were glancing,
And loud resounded mirth and dancing.

Inspiring bold John Barleycorn!
What dangers thou canst make us scorn!
Wi' tippenny, we fear nae evil;
Wi' usquabae, we'll face the devil!
The swats sae ream'd in Tammie's noddle,
Fair play, he car'd na deils a boddle,
But Maggie stood, right sair astonish'd,
Till, by the heel and hand admonish'd,
She ventur'd forward on the light;
And, wow! Tam saw an unco sight!

Warlocks and witches in a dance:
Nae cotillon, brent new frae France,
But hornpipes, jigs, strathspeys, and reels,
Put life and mettle in their heels.
A winnock-bunker in the east,
There sat auld Nick, in shape o' beast;
A towzie tyke, black, grim, and large,
To gie them music was his charge:
He screw'd the pipes and gart them skirl,
Till roof and rafters a' did dirl. -
Coffins stood round, like open presses,
That shaw'd the Dead in their last dresses;
And (by some devilish cantraip sleight)
Each in its cauld hand held a light.
By which heroic Tam was able
To note upon the haly table,
A murderer's banes, in gibbet-airns;
Twa span-lang, wee, unchristened bairns;
A thief, new-cutted frae a rape,
Wi' his last gasp his gabudid gape;
Five tomahawks, wi' blude red-rusted:
Five scimitars, wi' murder crusted;
A garter which a babe had strangled:
A knife, a father's throat had mangled.
Whom his ain son of life bereft,
The grey-hairs yet stack to the heft;
Wi' mair of horrible and awfu',
Which even to name wad be unlawfu'.
Three lawyers tongues, turned inside oot,
Wi' lies, seamed like a beggars clout,
Three priests hearts, rotten, black as muck,
Lay stinkin, vile in every neuk.

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Vollmann hasn't won the Nobel Prize for this yet? I've given up on humanity.
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For Seven dreams in general?

Or for Dying Grass? It seems so fuckin huge. Is it good? How is it?
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>>7624905
Of course it's fucking good. It's just like 1100 pages.
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>>7624867
A good place to start? How are his shorter works?

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I'm in full pleb-mode and need something to stop me getting distracted while playing poker, basically. I'm all podcast out and I'm nearing the end of my Lovecraft audiobook collection.

Can a few kind souls please recommend some good horror audiobooks, particularly cosmic horror or that neighbourhood? Preferably not Librivox shit (you understand) but something a person was paid to read?

Also happy to accept decent SF audiobooks, or anything you really liked, frankly.
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you seek knifepoint horror
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Pseudopod is secondary but knifepoint is tops
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Will check both of those out, thank you.

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Any French anons out there to help me make sense of something?

Currently learning the language to try and read some of my favorite books in their native language--in this case it's French.

At the moment I'm confused by something. What are the general meanings and differences between "n'a pas" and "n'ont pas?" Is one present tense and the other past tense? Is one used to address a singular noun and the other multiple? I keep getting mixed messages and meanings.

Also, what's the difference between "Du"...
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>>7624523
>"n'a pas" and "n'ont pas
Different conjugations. One is for Il or Elle or On, the other for plural ones
Just go to frenchabout.com m'negro, it has all of these
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>>7624523

>what's the difference between "Du" and "De?"

Du is basically a contraction of "De le" which isn't used in french language because it would sound awful.
There is no female equivalent, we do use "De la" when needed.

That would be the same difference that there is between "of" and "of the"

Example:

"pont de bois" -> "bridge of wood' aka wooden bridge

pont...
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>>7624902


Forgot to mention, "de le" exists but is used in totally different piece of sentences. I was secifically taling about its use in relation to du.

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I'm about to bingewatch this, what am I in for?
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>>7624422
darkness
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>>7624422
A book that people will tell you exposes the 'horrors of imperialism' but in reality will make you understand the complete and utter dominance and superiority of the white man over the black. The power of want and of human ambition.

Makes you respect Kurtz, assuming you are not a effeminate cuck.
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>>7624422
Paper men, a battleship firing into an empty forest, a hole dug for no reason, heads on spikes, the death of a helmsman, lies to comfort female fragility, that we live as we dream -- alone.

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Just finished this after previously read Ubik and VALIS, could we have a Philip K Dick thread? This book is probably a better example of how his ideas are often better than his execution, Ubik was much more well crafted when it came to the collapse of the character's realities. VALIS was great as well, but it's a little different so I'm not sure how I can compare that to his larger corpus of writing.

Any suggestions on what I should read next? I've peeked into my copy of A Scanner Darkly the other day, but I'm not sure if I want to read another...
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Flow My Tears is a bretty pood gook
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>>7624335
I love PKD and ASD is by far my favourite book by him.
A lot his work does read like a first draft that needs a thorough workover, yeah, but I came to consider it part of the charm I guess.
The recurring themes of God, drugs, and mental health (and lack of same) make his work as a whole more enjoyable and meaningful than the parts individually I think. It all kind of comes together as a lifelong semi-autobiography.
Don't pass over his short stories either, though. As you said yourself he's a lot...
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What's some good introductory reading on Semiotics?
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Semiotics: the Basics, by David Chandler
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Charles S Peirce's Philosophy of Signs

If you like BioSemiotics:
Signs of Meaning in the Universe - Jesper Hoffmeyer
Signs of Life (forgot author on this one, sorry).
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The Torah

I've always found "Lovecraftian" things pretty interesting so I finally decided to try out the source. I ended up reading Pickman's model, The color out of space and The music of Eric Zann.
Did I pick really badly or is his style not even meant to be scary? More about trying to blow your mind than crawl under your skin or jump at you?
I'm pretty confident when it comes to terror. I'd be running out of the room screaming if it was remotely spooky.
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I've never found him scary but I think At the Mountains of madness is a very enjoyable novella. It gives you a strange feeling that's hard to describe but very interesting to dwell on.
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Lovecraft's game is "fear of the unknown" so if that's not how you get your rocks off, he's probably not for you.

Which is fine. I personally got a lot more enjoyment out of Clive Barker than Lovecraft.
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Mein gott fuck off
Jk Just read one word per day?

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