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> and yet, due to his changes, all young people in Britain (regardless of gender, ethnicity, class, or individuality) are now expected to relate to the white, middle-aged, upper-middle class values which he decided were the right values. There is, apparently, no literary merit in any writer beyond these boundaries.

> This intellectual snobbery would have made my job not only impossible, but also soul destroying. I cannot stand at the front of a classroom and make children chant the works of Keats – instilling in them the belief that the only voices worth hearing in our society are those of a dead, white, English, male establishment figure.

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/aug/05/how-gove-reforms-drove-me-out-teaching
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>2014
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>>8180969
Who cares. Apart from Shakespeare and Chaucer, Americans did it better.

British schools should teach Pynchon and Delillo.
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>> 8180969

Implying good female writers exist

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ITT: Let's write a story together. Continue from the previous poster. Use no more than three sentences. No responding to yourself. No comma splices allowed, but sentence fragments are okay. Change of POV is acceptable. I'll begin:

I had finally managed to get Carl, Carla and Carlos together in the same room. It was my birthday. I could hear the drunken banter of the other party guests through the door.
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>>8180929
The shrill and bassy voices fell in volumes and the crashing spiels came together in bits. I knew there was something being said next door.
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The voices started to vanish,all light escaped the room as the demonic voices screamed in my head.The last thing i saw before passing out was the bloody chainsaw that killed Carl.Carla and Carlos.
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I liked dicks. Everyday I would go to the nearest gay bar and get ass fucked. Then I got killed.

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Tfw they destroyed the texts of socrates. Fucking people never change. I am at a cottage right now, listening to audiobooks about socrates. I woke up last night an hour into sleep to the sound of people talking right outside my window. I endured it for an hour or two, trying to sleep, until I evenyually screamed at the people to shut the fuck up because I can't sleep, from my window. I was so angry, I laid awake for a couple hours more, then slept for about an hour before the sunrise woke me up. That has nothing to do with socrates, but I am sitting on my ass on my phone thinking about how much I despise people. Socrates. They killed him because he spoke up, they're savages. People haven't evolved. There's still people who's lives are so inspid, I hear their inane chatter for hours on end. I feel sickly and tired and it's very cold in this cottage, I neglected to even bring a coat, just my phone and extra clothes.
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how were people talking outside if you live in a cottage. aren't cottages in rural areas.
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>>8180872
No, this is a place on the coast filled with tiny cottages, next to a small neighborhood. It's a collectively owned part of my family.
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Sounds like your house is going to get egged tonight.

t. the unwashed masses

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I read American Gods and neverwhere and loved them, any recommendations for similar books? Going through the /lit/ recommended reading for urban fiction but would like more recommendations too
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/lit/ generally hates writers like Gaiman, Rowling, and Rothfuss.

Try r/books, people there cater more towards people like you.
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>>8180856
Why? He's on the lit wiki that's where I started
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>>8180862
Straight up twice listed in two different fantasy lit recommended reading pics under urban fantasy so don't be a cunt and talk down to me

I know the whole "my diary desu" thing is just a meme, but do any of you actually keep a diary? I feel like it would be a good way to write every day and improve your skills. A personal memoir that doesn't have to be shared or critiqued. I'm thinking about starting one.
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start one if you want to, u do u girl
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Holy shit what is the point of this thread? What compelled you to ask this question, and what personality flaw is to blame? What made you sit down, type this post out, and then attach an image? Was there a grand plan? What type of responses are you expecting?

Because by the looks of this question, its sheer marginality in scope, it does not seem that you will get much at all, at least not enough to gratify your inanity.
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Then start one. Take a notebook and do it, you don't need /lit/'s seal of approval.

I want in.

How does one go about this?
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smash the ground floor windows and climb in
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>>8180519
Legally. Via induction.
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>>8180495
For a second I thought this was a house in Columbia, SC.

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Thoughts on Ken Wilber

an American writer on transpersonal psychology
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In A Theory of Everything Wilber attempts to...

...spirituality and show...

...integrate with theories of developmental psychology, such as Spiral Dynamics...

...this book is, "Wilber's shortest, simplest overview of his work."[
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In 1982 New Science Library published his anthology The Holographic Paradigm and other Paradoxes


a collection of essays and interviews, including one by David Bohm.

The essays, including one of his own, looked at how...

...the holographic paradigm relate to the fields of consciousness, mysticism and science
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Thoughts on Clare W. Graves

was a professor of psychology

...theory that he called, among other titles, "The Emergent Cyclical Levels of Existence Theory"

“The psychology of the mature human being is an unfolding, emergent, oscillating, spiraling process marked by progressive subordination of older, lower-order behavior systems to newer, higher-order systems as man’s existential problems change,”

He concluded that external life conditions (existential problems) trigger psychosocially congruent internal neurobiological equipment (mind capacities) to create a ‘level of psychological existence’—or worldview, or valuing system

Is realist literature dying /lit/? Will we soon be stuck with only pomo books being good?
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what do you care? you don't even read books
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>>8180151
so?
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I thini the idea of literary currents is dying. There will still be great authors, but they will like write in what style they choose.

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Are there "r9k-type" people writing today?
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>toadbloggers
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go ask them

this is the literature board
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>>8179962
Does plotting out a cartoon count as writing?

What are some books about living a life of solitude and asceticism?
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Tao te ching
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My diary desu.
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>>8179797
>pretending to be redpilled
>living inside a pot
>living inside
>living
fuckin plebs.

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You are at an event of some kind. You are mingling. This guy starts talking to you. It's clear he's hopelessly red-pilled, and very annoying. You want him to stop talking to you, but he's a good friend or relative of so-and-so and you can't be rude outright. He's talking about literature, and he asks you your favourite book. You want him to leave you alone—what book do you choose?
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This will be a bad thread
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If I say somethin librul, it could just agitate him and make him argue with me.

So I will go with the crazy route and talk about some batshit Timecube-tier self-published work and get REALLY enthusiastic about it just making shit up as I go until he's weirded out enough to go away.
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>>8179795
where did that come from? You a psychic or something? you're scaring me. what's going on

Taking out a seventeen-year-old to dinner in a couple of days (I'm nineteen, so it's not that weird, and her parents are okay with it). I'm not much of a reader, but she is and so are her parents, they did Shakespeare with her with dolls when she was growing up, and she likes stuff like Schopenhauer and the Satyricon. Met her at a family reunion (she's not family, but her family is a close friend of my relatives), and we danced to that song "Sway with me" and just hit it off. But, like I said, I'm not really a reader, and even though I managed this night, I'd still like some tips for conversational material for the date. Book recs, trivial, quotes, anything literary or philosophical that wouldn't make me look like a chode

Many thanks
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Just be curious and ask her lots of questions, get her to explain things to you. You're probably not going to be able to pull off glittering literary conversation after a few days of reading on the internet. You don't have to have the exact same interests to be good together. Like what if I met a lit girl and she liked authors I couldn't stand? I'm not talking about pleb stuff but serious books that for whatever reason I took a dislike to.

I read a novel once where the protagonist's gf would only read Proust or Celine. Everything else was pleb shit trash according to her and it made it difficult for the protagonist to get along with her and eventually they broke up violently.
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>>8179815
It's not that I can't stand who she reads though, I'm just more into vidya and sports, but I don't look down on reading, it's just not me
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>>8179787
Just think for yourself, it doesn't matter if you are not that cultured.
And start to read for the sake of human genes.

Is theatre the most anti-/lit/ of all literary forms? I rarely see discussion of classic drama and comedy on here and many canon writers wrote primarily in this genre, including duh Greeks and Shakespeare.

>inb4 hurr durr theatre is performing art not literature
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Yes, Shakespeare is the single most detrimental stage writer to ruin literature.
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>>8179686
Did you fall for Tolstoy's Shakespeare meme?
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Pretty sure I've discussed Strinberg, Genet, Chekhov and Sophocles on here. I guess they're all very popular playwrites but it seems quite a few /lit/ users have read and enjoyed at least some drama. I'd even say discussing drama here is less likely to be met with meme responses than discussing novels

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I'm writing a story that is told from the perspective of multiple people. What is the best and cleanest way to switch between perspectives? Will just starting a new paragraph or chapter that begins with the new character's name suffice?
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>>8179634
i would just write it out. you can't go a whole chapter without referencing the character's name regardless.

i prefer not to hand hold my reader through things.
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>>8179634
separated by chapters, without any indication as to who is the new POV beyond narrative context and dialogue.

it's the cleanest and least obstructive way imo.

If your characters are well developed it shouldn't be a problem for the reader
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>>8179634
>I'm writing a story
Sure you are, lad

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Honestly, how does it feel to only read books that an online community deems okay to read? Are you that insecure that you have to ask other people if a book is acceptable to read or not, instead of just reading what interests you? I hope you all get better soon.
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>>8179534
It feels wonderful, thanks for asking.
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But the straw man did not respond, for he was only straw, not man. Anonymous slept frustrated.
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>>8179538
He already did respond, mister first response is the type of person I was addressing. Thanks for the input though 8) best wishes

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