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What's the deal with bizarro? At first glace it just looks like edgy grossout horror combined with "random XD" humor, but I've seen people on /lit/ praise it as some cutting-edge new movement. Is there anything to this, or have I been memed again?
>/lit/ praise it
>have I been memed
wew
There's good bizarro fiction which is indeed cutting-edge, and there's a lot of crap bizarro fiction.
bizarro has run its course unfortunately
This is a great fantasy book series and GRRM is a great writer. Prove me wrong. Top tip: you can't.
>>7816161
Book 4 will prove you wrong
>>7816161
Who is the best character in ASOIAF and why it's Jaime?
>>7816175
this. Things went downhill fast after a Storm of Swords.
Fiesta: The Sun Also Rises - okay
For Whom the Bell Tolls - good
A Farewell to Arms - okay
To Have and Have Not - very bad
Across the River and Into The Trees - decent
I most read Hemingway for content, like how he talks a lot about war, and his European settings are good. I thought FWTBT was very interesting, a military mission building to the climax, and the reflections on war were interesting. A Farewell to Arms was also a bit like this, but not as good. Only book by him I hated was For Have and Have Not, with dreadful prose, boring stuff happening, and...well, it was just bad.
I like Hemingway. Not like Americans (apparently) do, but I do enjoy him. I do, however, wish his prose was quite a lot more complex. Enjoyable things he writes about.
Anyone else read him? I've read quite a lot of his books now.
>>7814992
Who is this poop sloop?
I read The Old Man and the Sea for fun in middle school and haven't touched him since.
>>7815012
She's not a poop sloop, she's a semen demon. I think she's an actress.
Why does this guy get so much praise, seriously? His prose is pleb-tier and so are his attempts at surrealism. Also his stories are unninteresting, I seriously only imagine this being appealing to hipster teens or brain-dead plebs.
>hipster teens or brain-dead plebs.
guess who tends to champion his works?
>>7814871
I hated 1Q84, 900 pages of absolute nothing.
I can't even share this opinion anywhere but here because I would be lynched by the MIDF.
Gifted kots, like 80pg in and feeling the dread.
Whats the draw of this book?
I mean its not so bad, but it reads like a students homework assignment
"i went swimming, then i ate a sandwich, then i went to the cinema, then i looked over my balcony, then i ate another sandwich" etc etc
Is there a point?
Apathy.
It's not really a bad book if you ignore
>le stranger memes
before
>>7814870
So the whole draw is that he doesnt give a shit?
I sort of got that but why is it so lauded
>>7814879
The thing is mostly that the main character is despised, loathed or held in contempt by those around him simply because he doesn't care. He is so apathetic towards so much of life that he is seen as an >outsider. Later on in the book he seems to finally find some meaning in life, his conversation with the clergyman or priest contains the entire jest of the book and its outcome. Why it is so lauded I am not sure but then again I am not a particularily intelligent man.
alright /lit/, I have to write something for school and I need a touchup and/or critique on my opening sentence. I really just need to know how forced the bar/light metaphor sounds I guess.
inb4 someone says I'm in 8th grade.
'As humans, we all have cages that oppress us. They all have cold, steel bars that keep us from our desires, but these bars have space between them that let the light in, and let us find solace in a sliver of freedom, no matter how small that sliver might be."
man /thread
I mean as a single sentence of a minor assignment it works I guess
>>7816129
Totally beside opie's reason for posting, but pic related reminded me of how I once publically pronounced mediocre as mediy-o-core. God was I villified.
thoughts on this man??
Pretty good
He is pretty rigid in his politics contrary to opinion
Though you have to understand he is a post-deleuze-guattari marxist
>>7814969
Why the fuck today everyone on /lit/ decided to post D&G? I mean /lit/ has always been fond of them and they're alright but specifically today /lit/ is hard on them.
i feel like he would disagree with any interpretation i had of him and his ideas
what is its appeal?
Great prose.
Surreal atmosphere and a fascinating world.
It's written as a captivating puzzle.
It is full of symbolism and tells a meta narrative through it.
It's using postmodern techniques to tell a traditional story with a traditional message.
It is a religious novel with a very deep spirituality.
what is its appeal?
>>7814655
>Great prose.
no it isn't
> Surreal atmosphere and a fascinating world.
yes
> It's written as a captivating puzzle.
okay
> It is full of symbolism and tells a meta narrative through it.
how is that supposed to be appealing in and of itself?
> It's using postmodern techniques to tell a traditional story with a traditional message.
how is that supposed to be appealing in and of itself?
> It is a religious novel with a very deep spirituality.
how is that supposed to be appealing?
Any books on Eastern philosophy that don't come off as Western new agey horse shit?
Dhammapada and the Pali Canon. The Analects can also be quite insightful at times.
dao de ching, etc.
>Eastern philosophy
You gotta be a little more specific than that m8.
What is the best reading order for Plato?
Start with the trial
>>7814578
Start with the Apology, and then read whatever. There is a "dramatic order" that can be inferred (take the dialogues at the end of Socrates' life: Theaetetus, Euthyphro, Cratylus, Sophist, Statesman, Apology, Crito, Phaedo all *happen* in that order), but the order has nothing to do with an order for reading, but rather points to certain relations between groups of works.
Don't worry about order. Plato isn't grasped upon any initial reading, but upon subsequent re-readings and study.
If /lit/ heroes like Deleuze and Guattari have something interesting to say, why do they purposefully obfuscate their ideas with the way they use language?
You don't see this sort of nonsense in real subjects, like maths, physics, and engineering.
Deleuze's legacy is ever-evolving, never complete. The language is supposed to be difficult, with infinite interpretations as an advantage and inaccessibility as a disadvantage for those who lack the endurance. He expanded the term of the BwO on multiple occasions, there were autodidact Anit-Oedipus reading groups in Germany, reading and re-reading and analysing the work for about 5 years
They are creating language that gets at something normal language does not. You do see the same thing in science, you only get the dumbed down YouTube clip in plain English.
>>7814485
Yeah, these subjects stopped saying substantial things a while who. Also nice baiting with math and physics, consider this your (You).
Well that was fucking boring.
>women in charge of writing
Please be bait. This isn't a bad book by any stretch of the imagination.
>>7815922
Wuts it about?
>>7816017
some people go a lighthouse
Why am I told that I have to read in order to obtain cultural capital? This is just a marketing scheme, right? The same with all this Western Canon stuff, right?
yes, exactly. You got it Op, do what you think is best instead
"To attain knowledge, add things everyday. To attain wisdom, remove things every day."
>>7814326
Keep posting on 4chan and wealth and power will come to you
Really horrible books, but you have to have read them cover to cover.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame - Victor Hugo
A Little Life - I can't remember
Dracula - Bram Stoker
after the quake - Haruki Murakami
To Have and Have Not - Ernest Hemingway
Urgh. What horrible books. I think THOND was probably the worst. No real plot, not much good character stuff, average prose, really, it was about nothing. A Little Life was dreadful too, however, a character-driven book with horrible characters...and it was 700 pages long. I was surprised at Dracula, which is one of the most important horror novels ever written, but which was dull to read, although it did have some entertaining sections.
Come on. I'm sure this board has some read a fair few really bad books. Who hasn't?
A Confederacy of Dunces
>>7815654
Quality opinions there bud.
Anyone in the area want to meme irl tonight?
what area
>>7815665
Los Angeles
>>7815619
Damn, I thought that was NY and was seriously considering catching a train into the city to fuck around.
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