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/lit/, is Go Set a Watch Man a good sequel to To Kill a Mocking Bird?
>Go Set a Watch, Man
I liked Go! Set a watch? Man!
The striking tale of a man who mistakenly enters a race to set a watch at the correct time but realises he has no idea how to do so
I haven't read it. I've heard people were upset because Atticus "Jesus" Finch from To Kill A Mockingbird is now an old racist. Some also claimed Go Set a Watchman solidified the theory that Capote took Harper Lee's drafts of her novel and rewrote it for her.
Do you seriously think her dad wrote her diary?
>>7811195
She wrote it you anti-Semite
what makes you say that?
Entry #731
>If Coleridge is right in ascribing to Schelling a wish to denude the active intellect of its sclerotic vestments, then.. hang on, I need to diddle my cooter to some sick lesbian action.
I am searching for books which go through different schools of thought and touch on modern philosophy as well as ethics. Is there a decent introduction? If not, were should I start?
inb4 pleb stuff
the lit wiki philosophy guide
>>7811122
lol he's not gonna read those hundreds of books. yeah just read that text, even though it's abridged af. if you're into ethics check out the nicomachean ethics and groundwork of the metaphysic of morals
maybe even j.s. mill's on liberty though i'm biased because i hate it
Anybody on /lit/ speak Japanese as a second language?
You guys have got me convinced I shouldn't read translations if I'm capable of learning another language, and I feel like a lot of other people on here (deep down) feel the same way. Though, like a lot of people, learning another language seems a bit daunting for me.
So ITT: What's your experience learning new languages? And what advice would you give to somebody learning another language. I personally am most interested in Japanese, but I don't want to limit the thread at all.
>he actually fell for the 'translations' meme
kek
just read it in english retard
>>7811102
The >translation thing is largely a meme. It's obviously impractical in general to learn other languages for the sole purpose of reading literature in the original. Surely the optimal choice is to seek out the best translations.
As for choice of language for reading, I have some familiarity (if not fluency) with Japanese and I can say it would be a tough choice for reading because of the thousands of kanji, along with how they combine. It would involve a comparatively high degree of effort relative to...
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>>7811126
>>7811151
While it's undoubtely a meme, I'd say it has some truth to it. Reading the original is miles better than reading a translation, but only if your comprehension of the language is on par with your first one.
And of course, to reach that level you would need to study even the most basic of languages for quite some time. I'd say go for it if you really love Japanese culture and literature, but if you are just curious about it, then don't bother.
Definitive English translation of Homer's Iliad and Odessey?
the one me and your mom wrote where the words are all different sounding sexual grunts
I'm reading an online translation by Ian Johnston and I like it so far. Took out a copy of one by Richard Lattimore from the library and found it much more difficult so I went back to the online one. Something about the phrases and sentence structure just makes it easier to follow
There is none.
My favourites are Fagles for the Iliad and Fitzgerald for the Odyssey
>Main character's occupation: Writer
But what if the writers occupation isn't the second third or fourth main conflict of the story? What then, dipshit?
You tried this yesterday and it didn't work. Twy a new troll bub.
>>7810973
Though it's important to write what you know, when you end up writing a story basically about yourself, you've missed the whole point of literature.
Is this any good or is it just a meme? I picked it up at the bookstore the other day and read a few pages; the prose was fucking terrible.
you're retarded
go back to /reddit/
You have no taste kill yourself
>>7810938
Oh man, sorry to hear that OP. I really enjoyed it, and enjoy Bolano in general. You could probably chalk it up to a difference in taste.
Maybe try The Savage Detectives, and see if that's more your taste? If you don't like that one either, it's likely Bolano just isn't for you.
wtf does "Tradition" mean anyhow?
>>7810931
>When the Way is lost, there is goodness.
>When goodness is lost, there is morality.
>When morality is lost, there is ritual.
>Ritual is the husk of true faith
>the beginning of chaos.
for ritual, read tradition
Living in caves, raping women and killing each other while sacrificing sheep to statues
>>7810931
It is a line of defense that prevents us from falling for the degeneracy of the modern world.
Has there ever been a more perfect embodiment of the Nietzschean Übermensch?
>rejected the values of the mandarin china, the same mandarin values that nietzsche despised, so he destroyed them in the cultural revolution
>did not believe in any god or higher moral power
>perfect embodiment of this-worldliness: remade a nation of billion people to his vision
>believed in the concept of constant revolution, actively promoting strife and crisis as catalysts...
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>>7810926
a moifucking chink cant be the pber yo uu
>>7810926
I actually agree with you.
>>7810987
kind of a good example up until the later years of his life anyway, when he was functionally dependent on his advisers and not quite 100% there. Also, kind of shows why the Nietzschean Ubermensch can be a totally shit ideal in reality.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger_und_der_Nationalsozialismus
Why does a philosopher's political orientation deserve >9k pages
Shit like this makes me feel so impotent and mad. What kind of time am I living in?
Did the Greeks not keep slaves? Did Kant not troll niggers?
Is this obsession with nazism still ongoing in real academia? I want to study philosophy but if I would constantly have to watch out for everyone's meme sensibilities when I'm arguing in the realm of pure thought and possibilities I think I'd rather...
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>>7810886
>Is this obsession with one of the main causes of postmodernism still ongoing in real postmodernist academia?
wew
>>7810900
Then postmodernism a shit. This is all a meme isn't it. I should have been born a century ago but the matrix did a poopie cause of the y2k bug, that's it.
>>7810908
why don't you care for postmodernism?
I don't care for the nazism obsession either, mind you, but you can simply ignore it - because postmodernism.
>literally autism: the book
>>7810873
I would argue it's more someone who's fundamentally flawed and sadistic. Autism is a lack of connection through a lack of understanding, he understands the world but takes it all to himself. It's as if he blames the world for hurting him and then he hurts the lowest among us.
Not autism Anon
Literally not
>mfw someone jostles me on the street
Is his fiction worth a go? Never heard much about the guy.
>>7810850
>Dude... heroin lmao
>>7810850
My other half reads his stuff, she enjoys his books though she found Shark was a particularly difficult read.
hes literally the biggest cunt who ever lived
Why is this book considered brilliant? It reads like a self insert fanfiction. Literally every famous historical person he meets comments on how smart the aurthor is.
Can you imagine a modern day equivalent of this shit?
wewlad
>>7810805
If you cannot see how it's a masterpiece then there's no real point in discussing literature at all with you m8. It's like you didn't understand a single word in the book...
what is the point of reading philosophy if you wont use it to better the world and only yourself?
>>7810726
to better myself
A better self= better world
To achieve peace through understanding.
I'd rather commit suicide than live in constant mental/emotional/spiritual turmoil.
I hate the first stanza, but I'm going to post it anyway. Plz tips on how to improve
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When feeling fades
I expect the relief
of the freedom
being finally released from
the lighting that dragged me for months
Yet
desire leaves a hollow
when it goes
I can't deny it; it's there
the absence of nothingness
laughing at matureness
supposed to kill it at birth
Puppy love is being missed
I was always fond of fluffy beings
I think that's cool, maybe you should work on the rhythm ?
The Eater of Dreams 1/2
A warm and forward wind hums through the treetops.
The black hand children run when they see me, crouched as I am at the top of a baobob.
‘Cours! Allons-y! II y a le mal dans cet arbre!’
There is an evil in this tree.
Am I an evil?
I lift my spindly fingers to wave.
But they do not notice, their backs disappear into the forest, fear in their wobbling shrieks.
And I continue, dead-eyed.
Continue to scratch and to scratch and to scratch and to dig and to dig and to dig. Nails chipping and cracking with every drag across...
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2/2
And now,
Where the children run screaming toward me:
Please, Daubentonia, please eat our dreams.
Our dreams, they terrify us, we cannot live our lives but for the fear we feel when the sun goes down and our lids grow heavy.
Wherefore are our dreams so uncivil and barbarous, Sweet Daubentonia?
Wherefore must we dream, and not stay awake forever?
And I thunder in my arboreal tongue:
Whoever said you were asleep when you dream?
What dost thou mean, foul cannibal ape?
I don’t know, I’m just trying to sound portentous.
Eat the dreams,...
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