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Finnegans Wake thread?
I finished this often incomprehensible, occasionally aggregating but consistently amusing and interesting book about a week ago. I'm looking to see if anyone on here has also legitimately read it so we can have real meme free discussion of it.
Did you like it?
Did you finish it?
If so, what were your favourite parts ?
A personal favourite of mines was Shaun's questioning in book 3 chapter 1.
>in the name of the first , the latter and the holocaust. All men
Why doesnt riverrun have a capital R
>>7806522
The no memes lasted long
Did you understand it? And be real OP. Is it really as incoherant as it first seems or is there actually something there worth trying to decipher?
If we define "heap" as some certain amount of parts, then the paradox is resolved. So the confusion comes from "heap" being a vague predicate. It seems obvious to me that vague terms like "heap" should not be used when we are trying to establish facts about the world. They are only useful in day-to-day conversations where some vague meaning is permissible or useful.
I must be missing something here, because philosophers have gone to the effort of applying a whole lot of weird many valued logic systems to this problem.
Can anyone recommend some compelling critiques of my approach?
>>7806354
>complains about vagueness
>let's define "heap" as a CERTAIN amount of parts!
The point of the paradox is that it springs from vague predicates. It is not showing any "established facts about the world", but evicing the inherente vague nature of language and how we build our understanding of the world through it, even if it's flawed.
When does a heap stop being a heap? That is a decision as arbitrary as language itself.
At least that's what I gather from it.
this is a worthless line of thought
heap is somewhat vague by definition
fapping about what exactly constitutes as "heap" is pointless because there are far more precise concepts that can be used when necessary
same thing as with "few", you use it when you intentionally wish to be somewhat vague or lack necessary data to make more accurate judgments
I want to make a German language recommended reading picture that's a little more comprehensive than the old one.
It covers the classics just fine but I'm interested in modern recommendations and a bigger variety of topics including genre literature.
You could help me by posting books you'd want to see included.
>>7806334
How about Peter Stamm? Either "Agnes" or "Weit über das Land".
Also pic related.
>>7806463
I haven't read either. Translations should be available too, so I'd rather include Agnes.
>>7807017
Yeah, Agnes is the better known work anyways.
Is there a more JUST writer?Can someone shop the JUST hair onto him please
>>7806329
>Can someone shop the JUST hair onto him please
>doesn't know how to shop
JUST
>>7806348
>JUSTing a pleb
JUST
You're at your local bookstore, and this guy comes up to the cashier who you have been unsuccessfully trying to flirt with and have been infatuated with for over three months now. What do you do?
No seriously why do you guys hate Lovecraft
>>7806174
Comes up to hypotnises with eloquence*
roses are red
violets are blue
my name is lovecraft
niggers
>>7806174
I actually enjoy Lovecraft.
>inb4 stupid nigger
when did you find out you were a shit or good writer?
>>7806149
you can never know that, OP
When everything I wrote was received with the same enthusiasm as the dead rabbit a dog brings you.
Who cares anon. They are all plebs anyway.
In Chapter Two Ignatius is writing on a "tablet" but I know they didn't have tablets back then since at first I thought he was updating his blog or something. Does anyone know what the author was trying to say when he said tablet?
stone tablets
I really don't understand the purpose of your thread OP
First paragraph, chapter 2:
>“With the breakdown of the Medieval system, the gods of Chaos, Lunacy, and Bad Taste gained ascendancy.” Ignatius was writing in one of his Big Chief tablets.
one second in google:
>The Big Chief tablet is a popular writing notebook for young children in the United States.
???
>>7806155
americans are weird
How often do you lie about having read something? I do often. I can not help.
op is a faggot
Never, I read for enjoyment, not social capital.
I FUCKING HARE IT when people do this.
really makes it hard to create conversation.
I bring something up in the hopes of getting their opinion and I have to sit and listen to them try and justify why they don't know what I'm talking about.
"Ohh sorry i onky read parts of that book not all of it! "
Will anyone ever translate this book?
>>7805825
Yeah, it's on Amazon, the English name is Bottom's Dream.
Pay up, scrub.
>>7805834
I mean... It'll be published in September...
Go pre-order, scrub.
Thoughts on the Millennium Trilogy?
>>7805815
this is a literature board
>>7805817
Negroid
>>7805815
No, none.
Is there a /lit/ approved version of the Bible? I've been wanting to read it from a more scholarly/historic standpoint than traditional editions but there's far too many annotated and translated versions to choose from.
>>7805773
the god delusion
The King James and Robert Alter's are the only translations which are considered great literature, afaik
>>7805773
If Harold Bloom is our Lit&Savior, then you wanna read King James, and if you want to read more than one, the Tyndale bible is beautiful in its own way.
Just started reading the first book and am currently loving it so far. I see Knausgaard talked about a lot on here but I am curious to see what you /lit/izens thought of the first book or series yourselves?
Also this thread can be a Knausgaard general thread as well.
Yeah, it's great. I've read three of them. The first and second books were incredible. The third was pretty good.
I honestly didn't like the first one that much. It was odd. I found myself drawn to reading it but not really loving it. A lot of the "profound wisdom" moments felt kind of forced and Karl Ove seems like he never outgrows the edgy teen he portrays himself as. I do like when he discusses death, and the scene where he has to get the beer to the party, but the last half of the book drags like crazy, and feels really formless. Yeah yeah, that's the point etc. But I felt like my time could have been better spent on other books. That's just me though, I know the book had gotten incredible reviews.
The part near the end where Karl Ove and his brother are getting drunk with their grandmother is great.
Theories and general I guess
I have this theory I've been working on lately:every book in the series sucks just as much as the last
Why did the resurrect rob starks mom. She only came back for like 1 chapter. Wtf was the point of that
>>7805769
Yeah me too, but was hoping something interestin came up recently
I don't understand the ending
Also why did he spend so much of the novel just referencing poets
>>7805668
Did not get that ending either. Think it's a riddle about freedom
What's this from
>>7806014
savage detectives by bolano
Do great, brilliant people tend to be miserable? If so; why?
>>7805656
Define "great". Not trying to be a smartass, but I suspect that most "great" businessmen and career-men tend to be fulfilled by their occupations in a really single-minded sort of way.
As for artists, authors, intellectuals and (smart) comedians, there is something to be said about the correlation between depression and these pursuits. I personally think that these endeavors involve tackling the Big Questions in life, and being sincerely, acutely concerned with the world around you. It is apparently difficult to wrestle with these things and not become completely miserable.
>>7805656
Because if you keep asking yourself questions, you'll never have answers.
We don't know what makes up everything, and I believe we will never know, especially if everything is infinite. Even if we were to discover the beginning of everything, we still won't be able to grasp the concept, naturally, nor will we know if we actually hit rock bottom.
Everything is a yes, no, and maybe. No definitive answer makes for no definitive base of reasoning to go towards everything, therefore.. we're fucked, not fucked, and maybe fucked. The world, beyond, and anything underneath is whatever we want it to be, f a m.
>>7805656
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