How much slogging will I have to do if I plan to read the whole wheel of time series in one run? High/epic fantasy generally isn't known for it's brevity, but Jordan's books seem to have a bit of notoriety for it.
Is it worth it? Is it something I should read just by way of being a fan of fantasy?
>Is it worth it?
"no"
I read through a few of them in high school. The books get longer and longer but less happens in each installment. I hope you like descriptions of tapestries.
You shouldn't have to "slog" at all with a past-time like literature. Wheel of Time sucks. There are better books to read. Being a fan of a genre doesn't mean you have to read shit (unless you take a perverse pleasure in subjecting yourself to schlock, in which case go for it).
I've read most of the Greeks but I've never had complete copies; law-related stuff because I'm thinking of law school. The coverless one is Montesquieu's Rousseau.
Excited for my first Joyce and I haven't read Melville in ages.
This was all ~$50 from a local used book place.
Anything new from you guys?
Nice Melville edition.
Here's mine. God bless Amazon Market and its dirt-cheap used copies.
Pretty happy with my ultra rare Cornell University edition of a ND book. Cost about 20 something altogether but whatevs
>>7804601
>Dershowitz
A known plagiarist and alleged kid toucher.
Oh vey OP.
What's a word for the stage in which transformation is occurring but yet to be complete. I'm trying to say in an essay that the 1950's was an anxious time because conservatism was still prominent but there was a gradual shift towards liberalism/progressivism that would later arise in the 60's. The sentence would be something along the lines of
"In the 50's, society was in a state of _____" or
Basically I need a way to say that the transformation from conservatism to liberalism created anxiety.
flux?
>>7804600
I don't think that quite works in the context of what I'm trying to say.
>>7804593
You just say "Society was in the middle of a transformation"
Which should I start with?
that's a nice collection
literally just read the back of all of them and read whichever sounds most appealing to you
>>7804358
I picked up all of them (aside from c22 and slaughterhouse V) for 10 bucks. I've read Candide and Walden
which Hemingway should I start with?
>>7804369
the sun also rises is his first novel
it makes sense to read it before a farewell to arms
Is Lord of the Flies worth reading, /lit/?
>>7804317
But of course.
>>7804317
wow i thought practically everyone in the world read it at school when they are about 12
Yes it is, as is much of Golding's work. I also recommend The Spire
John Milton is a far superior poet to Shakespeare. Does /lit/ agree?
>>7804304
No. All the crap with God and Jesus is boring. I wanted more Satan.
Does anyone have a download link to a Paradise Lost copy with commentary? Thanks in advance.
>>7804354
http://people.virginia.edu/~jdk3t/ParadiseLostIn10Bks1667.pdf
This is a copy of the book alone. Commentaries should be pretty easy to find online, but I don't know any particularly good ones.
what is the consensus the Malazan series?
They're trash.
A tabletop campaign setting turned into an overly long set books. Appeals to Asperger spectrum readers.
>>7804301
This
It also manages to lack the only good thing about fantasy; easy digestable entertainment.
obligatory
>>7804227
shut up fag
>>7804276
plebs get out
>>7804400
you're the pleb, so you get out.
Has /lit/ ever had a piece of writing or poetry hit them hard?
I want to preface this by saying I only enjoy a certain type of poetry.
But after listening to a reading of 'Ozymandias' by P.B. Shelley, I'm really blown away. How such a deep and powerful message can be conveyed in a few short lines is truly remarkable. And the poem's message still stands today, as shown by Adolf Hitler's Germany and Communist Russia.
Has any piece ever emotionally moved you in such a way, /lit/?
Bump for interest.
>>7804226
Mein kampf
I wept when Holden made tender love to Phoebe, finally consumating their love, at the end of the book.
Just finished pic. Loved it. What does /lit/ think? Would /lit/ recommend that I read more Ken Kesey??? What would you all recommend I read next?
Sometimes a Great Notion is over-written and way too long but still his next best book.
>>7804225
Graduate high school, kiddo.
Friendly reminder that /lit/ is satire.
>>7804224
Including this thread?
>>7804239
Including us two, Anon.
>>7804224
DELETE THIS
ITT: Terrible literature
>>7804214
You just revealed your own ignorance. Its horror, not literature, and its pretty good for horror
>>7804221
>Its horror
It's a thinly-veiled commentary on theory and the concept of representation. I hesitate even to say "thinly-veiled" because I'm not sure if it's veiled at all.
A great novel. A phenomenal debut. Thrillingly alive, sublimely creepy, distressingly scary, breathtakingly intelligent —it renders most other fiction meaningless. One can imagine Thomas Pynchon, J. G. Ballard, Stephen King, and David Foster Wallace bowing at Danielewski's feet, choking with astonishment, surprise, laughter, awe.
Hello lit
I need advice on writing :
I'm trying to write a short novel that is around 2500 words
I have an idea but I can't develop it that far
two ideas are
>people are in an office, describe office though specific terms, then there's a wolf in the office and they all lose their shit
or
>people are in an office, description of the office through specific termes, first person narrator goes to print something but starts finding tree leaves on the white floor, the whole office is turning...
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>>7804188
Im actually trying to write for a short story contest by university association
maximum is 2500 words but I feel like 650 words isn't enough
This sounds very Kafka-esque
>>7804188
>forces the reader to interpret
But how will I ever be able to understand such a complex masterpiece? What could it mean?
Go with the other idea. Or here's a thought. There's a wolf, it's described in a factual manner as part of the interior. Maybe it starts eating people but no one reacts appropriately until it has consumed them all.
Questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Not exactly /lit/-related but I imagine you guys will know the answer if there is one. Is there name for the fallacy (not even sure if it is a fallacy) whereby someone criticises another group's argument by saying something to the effect of "If they thought for two minutes about [insert simplified aspect of their argument] they'd realise it doesn't make sense" and in the process ignoring the fact that almost everyone holds fundamental beliefs that they don't question/interrogate on a daily...
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Okay. Here's my question that doesn't deserve its own thread. What are some cool hobbies/skills that you can learn which don't require spending a lot of money, and what books do you recommend for beginners to those skills?
For instance, the Royal Road to Card Magic and a pack or two of cards, and you're on your way to being a magician. You could also pick up the book You Can Have an Amazing Memory and learn some really useful memory tricks, which can be used for both practical and entertainment purposes. Juggling for the Complete Klutz, and a few bean...
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>>7804479
Thanks for the book recommendation! I'll pick it up in the next few days.
Any of these good? Come on out, fellow plebs
Fuck off
this is clearly a take on man's complex relationship with his inner animality, between the necessity to live in a community and the desire to fulfill one's urges. The theme of metamorphosing hints at the way personality is not determined and eventually led to change but may refer as well to the notion of gender.
Definitely a modern book that also raises general questions like the division of the self but conveying it through a sic-fi context, that's clearly where lies the originality of the text
Or at least recommend something camp that isn't Pynchon