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What do you guys think of Ezra Pound
>>7808238
I'd pound that person in your pic to be honest.
fascist. but a good poet, imo. threads have already been done to death about him, though.
>>7808238
He's one of the greatest literary geniuses ever. That said, he does have a few shitty poems, but, considering how much he wrote, that's forgivable.
Is Ares the most misunderstood figure in the school of Greek mythological thought?
I've been drawn to Ares recently while reading and studying these things, and I've come to understand that as much as he was the rabid dog of petty violence and sadistic brutality against men for the sake of his own amusement, he was just as much a sincerely passionate and empowering lover of women who embodied very favorable and romantic ideals of masculinity and mans role in relation to the women in life. He seemed to me to be the defender of women to express themselves in any way that was true to their nature, even if this meant their total disobedience of men and the ordered hierarchy of civilization. He empowered the nature of women from the vain, fleeting playfulness of Aphrodite to the war blooded barbarism of his Amazonian daughters.
He was always viewed within Greek writings as the enemy of man because of his opposition to the patriarchal hierarchy of the Olympian Order, but from an outside perspective we can start to see his complexities. He's a God representing masculinity as a powerful ally and liberator of femininity rather than it's conqueror and subjugator, the opposite of the likes of Zeus and Poseidon
my diary tbqh
Where did you copy this from, you fiend?
>>7808214
You're a fire hearted masculine sex God and an empowerer of women?
/lit/ chart thread?
>>7808143
0/10 b8
Literally all high school English-tier
>>7808143
>OP forgotten about Faulkner
>>7808143
>let's read a bunch of translations and pretend I'm intelligent and well read
haha
Tell me if you like my story idea /lit/
input is appreciated
>dude is pressured into cucking a guy by his gf, both he (the dude) and girl have issues and that's kind of where their common ground is
>the cuck is established from the get-go as aggressively protective of the girl, at first for understandable reasons but over time proving very spiteful and hostile towards protag
>protag/narrator reluctantly goes through with the cucking because he'd rather get her out of a bad, potentially abusive relationship (at this point starting to realize he does have feelings for her)
>things between him and the cuck escalate to the point of trying to cut him off at every possible opportunity only for the gf to stop him each time
>the cuck eventually quells his anger and attempts to rekindle his relationship with the girl; proves futile as she and the protag have already set in stone they want to be together
>completely fucks his shit up, he stops taking care of himself and loses his mind
>protag and gf find the cuck on the roof of a warehouse, overdosed on drugs and bleeding out from a self-inflicted wound, beckoning for someone
>as he lets out his last cry for help, a rainstorm begins to pick up and the two people before him join hands and walk away leaving him to die
>cuck is struck by lightning and the story ends here on a somber, pitiful reflection on the events that unfolded
>>7808104
so basically a guy gets coaxed into ruining another guy's life?
It doesn't seem like you'd really be breaking any ground. This isn't a story for this century, we're way past the fad of this kind of arc. There also seems to be some misogynistic undertones here, which means you've frankly got no chance of getting published unless its by some cheap Danielle Steel type publishing house. Nobody with half a mind for literature and/or business would print it.
>>7808171
misogynistic undertones?
>>7808104
I think you've been spending too much time on /pol/ and your brain is turning to rot
Anyone know the significance of the past in death of a salesman -A level question-
>>7808061
I don't know, you tell me. Seriously, tell us what you think and then we can discuss about it. We ain't doing your homework, fag.
T he past highlights Willys inability to accept change. It also helps creating a sharp contrast between his former self and him now. Willys incompetence to accept himself as a failed man only adds to the dramatic nature. Pretty much all I have got
Look in my face; my name is Might-have-been;
I am also called No-more, Too-late, Farewell;
—Dante Gabriel Rossetti
There were still open doors in the past. They've all shut. The great American Fake It Till You Make It ethos deprives itself of oxygen as ambition and reality part—despair & delusion rush into the void.
I need something easy to read whilst I slog through Ulysses. Does /lit/ recommend The Canterbury Tales or anything by Hemingway? I tried Faulkner, but I can't do two stream of consciousness books.
Hemingway is grade-school tier prose and easy as pie. Canterbury Tales is really garbage as literature and more relevant as a historical artifact.
>>7807963
>I've never read these things, I just come on /lit/ and steal people's opinions
Hemingway would be fine OP, but I'd recommend Tolstoy's short stories personally.
Hadji Murat
Ivan Ilyich
Kreutzer Sonata
Prisoner of the Caucasus
The Devil
You could also just read Dubliners and Portrait of the Artist assuming that you haven't read them already. If you haven't then I highly recommend it.
>>7807947
The Sun also Rises is a nice, easy book to read.
It is kind of sad though, it's about the WW1 generation after the war, trying to continue to live. I like it enough to have reread it a few times, the character Robert Cohn in particular is interesting.
Which author would write the best adult film scripts if given the chance?
My vote goes to Pound if it is written in a Cantos style
hank green
>>7807552
/thread, no one is gonna bear this
I'm starting to write a novel, and I have a number of main characters. Need help with deciding how many characters I should go with. The book would be going very in depth with each one and how they interact with each other.
Also, each of these characters represent an "emotion". For example, I have one the represents ambition and purpose. Any suggestion for other aspects I should focus on for different characters?
Wow, Anon, that sounds like a totally rad original idea!
>>7807548
I've had this idea years before the movie came out. The emotions are supposed to be subtle, something that the reader has to think about, but clear when pointed out. Every character would act like a normal person, but some aspects would be stronger than others
>>7807602
>>7807548
which in turn was a direct descendant of the tv show herman's head. it went into his psyche where 4 characters represented his id, ego, superego, and anima. or hell, even sex in the city had the four main characters based on astrological elements, earth, air, fire, and water.
i'm sure there are other examples, op's idea is just a variation on the use of archetypes, but execution is what matters, not the concept. you can have the best idea in the world and make it garbage by not knowing how to create characters and conflict with depth, or bungling the narrative structure.
I would like to take the chance,
To talk about a dance,
I should rather say the dance,
For there is no other like it.
You see there is not a chance to fight it.
Its victims left in predicament,
For from the outside all looks well,
But inside they are trapped,
Companions think they're smiling,
But Ney that is the bug,
That comes along and bites you,
But these ones you cannot see them,
They come disguised as music,
To make you twitch and writhe in rythem,
And now you've heard their jingle,
You've left them some what smitten.
>>7807520
why would you bother someone who looks so comfy?
>>7807522
I hope he is enjoying his rest
Thoughts?
Would you read a book written by a computer?
Eventually science will find away to compete with humans in the arts right?
>>7807431
that would be the greatest thing ever. the main reason i hate a lot of literature is because authors turn it into a glamor issue, a book all about them. take the person out of it, you get an entirely unselfish piece of work
Probably not. I like working out the author's intent and understanding how they achieved various things.
>>7807439
Read Wikipedia articles. That's effectively the result of removing the human element.
What should I read next?
http://strawpoll.me/7073150
Forbrytelse og straff familie
https://strawpoll.me/7073297
>>7807436
You really should read Moby Dick. In fact, even if you'd already read it, I'd recommend you reread it.
What did you guys (who've read it) think of Against the Day? I've been a fan of the man, the meme the legend Pinecone for quite a while, but haven't gotten around to it. Would it be a good read for someone who really liked GR?
i copped the audiobook on itunes when it was on sale for 6 bucks, but i didnt get around to listenign to it yet since it's like 50 hours long or some shit, the parts i sampled seemed pretty patrish tho
>>7807401
I don't think I could ever listen to Pynchon on audiobook. How can you trust the narrator to give the right emphasis, interpret dialect, recite poems, etc. correctly? Plus there's so many instances where I need/want to go back and immediately reread passages for clarity, having the audio just carry on would make it too hard to comprehend.
>>7807445
because it's read by a patrician shakespearean actor who has a more elite education than u do, stay pleb
Was he a proto-Marxist?
But was it rape OP?
absolutely
>>7807357
>does concern for children and the poor equate to Marxism?
also
>proto-
So, have some of you guys read this book already? I'm currently in the middle of it, seems pretty great so far. There are a couple of trash-tier stories, but most of them are rather good and some are actually really great.
Share your opinions
>>7807340
You'll be hated for reading King on lit but fuck them.
I liked Batman and Robin, A death, The Little Green God of Agony, Obits, Drunken Fireworks, and Summer Thunder.
Ur was shit tier though, terrible story.
Stephen king is not literature.
Sage and report
>>7807380
I disliked "bad little kid" the most, it was okay, but the ending was really unoriginal
I really liked morality and a death, think they are going to stick in my head for a while
Good evening /lit/.
Recently I have started to read the little red writing book by Mark tredinnick, and was wondering if anyone here had some other suggestions on resources that are useful for developing your writing?
I have heard a mixed bag of opinions on his books, so don't worry yourself about pointing out that you don't like his style.
I'll still read it through regardless.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Take it easy.
Any book whatsoever will help you develop your writing. Even the shitty ones. Just read as much as you can and try and take note of what you think the author does right or wrong.
>>7807322
On Writing by Stephen King
>>7807332
Yes, I do that anyway.
I was looking for books which were made in a teaching format.
I will always rely on studying the books I read, but having a supplementary book alongside it which can be referred to to understand how and why certain sentences are effective and pleasurable to read is the main goal here.
>>7807369
>On Writing by Stephen King
This is the sort of book which I was looking for.
I'd like to compile a list of reference books in the future, which could hopefully help people find a first step if studying their favourite books isn't their ideal learning medium.
Thank you for the suggestion also anon.
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