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I will read the first book posted in this thread from start to finish within the next month. No matter what it is. Post.
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The Bible.
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>>7798838
Do it, faggot.
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>within the next month

>not instantly suggesting In Search Of Lost Time

/lit/ please

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I mean. Fuck.

It's mostly a character-driven piece, which is fine, infact it's very good, but the characters themselves are boring as hell, and there's only 4, and it focuses mostly on 1. It's just dull and repetitive. Such lifeless characters. The plot doesn't exist much, and is bad. The prose seems alright at first, but it so grey and dull, that it bored me a lot by the end of the book. The book is meant to be an emotional rollercoaster ride, very emotional, etc. but did nothing for me, really at all. It didn't move me. Disturbingly, the whole book is set in late 20th century NYC, but really is a void. The presidents aren't mentioned, or culture, or TV or radio shows, and no specific years are mentioned. It's so abstract or vague, it's worrying and boring. The book is also 700 pages long.

This book is dreadful. And yet, I've heard and read several people say it's great.
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>reading women writers that don't have vagina in their first name
you brought this on your Self
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>>7798747

I get the feeling it's aimed at women more than men. There's very little content, it's mostly emotional bits. This is the shit that girl likes, like Norwegian Wood.
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>>7798732
I bet you think this is so fucking brilliant.
Honestly. What banal swill. Read more, please.

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>Hemingway is my favorite writer.
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>Nabokov is my favorite poet
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>>7798711

Prove him wrong you fucking philistine.

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So I'm thinking about starting a blog with book reviews. Problem: I think my reviews are shit. Do any of you guys write reviews and if so, do you have any tips for beginners?
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As someone who has a blog and updates it's rarely, you will not get any views. To be popular amongst bloggers, you have to be a girl, and moan about girl things.

Your best bet? Go find those private forums like back in the early 2000s, ingrain yourself within a community, be known as 'the book guy'. You'll appreciate it more
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>>7798552
>As someone who has a blog and updates it's rarely, you will not get any views. To be popular amongst bloggers, you have to be a girl, and moan about girl things.

So roastie or gtfo?
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>>7798562

or have some level of fame, e.g. being a published author or moderately well known academic or journalist

Why do you read books? Reading fiction in no different than watching TV shows because it's a waste of time
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>>7798511
define 'waste time'
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To cope with the crippling loneliness. Watching TV is too passive to make me forget my condition.
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>>7798511
Why are you alive? being awake is no different than sleeping because it's a waste of time.

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>never went to college
>have really wanted to dig into writing recently
>have barely read any books in my life
Is there really any point in me trying to write? Compared to other authors or aspirants in my age range, I probably have a piss poor vocabulary and I really wouldn't want to settle for writing schlock.
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Can you write well? Have you tried? I mean, there are probably a bunch of writers who never went to college and didn't really read much, even great ones, even canon ones. It's not a great start but if you want to write, you may as well go ahead. Write because you enjoy writing, don't worry about the quality of the output.
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>>7798507
considering the shit that gets published these days, i don't think one needs much of a writing background anymore.
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Of course you're unequipped, but there's no reason you can't start reading and writing and learning now.
But do realize, nobody writes who does not read. Unless you've had some crazy life worth sharing, it's just not realistic.
You have to love the art of literature itself, and not just that of storytelling to be a writer. If you feel like writing but don't have any interest in reading or studying writing, maybe you don't really want to be a writer, maybe you want to direct movies like the one you posted and see writing as the most convenient creative outlet. Maybe it is, but it's still not easy.

>have barely read any books in my life
Never too late to start exploring.
>never went to college
This really doesn't matter. English majors may have a bit of an upper hand being walked through and taught the harder works, but mostly formal education does nothing for the creative process. Creative Writing programs perhaps even stifle it.
If you're serious about writing get at it, and when you've got a story you're proud of send it around to be published. Being published (for free, obviously) in a zine is easier than ever

In whatever you do, good luck anon.

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One of 'The Classics' I've just never got around to.

Should I even bother?
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it's pretty good
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Don't go in expecting a horror or fantasy story, go in expecting banter from two homosexuals
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>>7798499
He's right about this, but Wilde writes some of the best dialogue of any English writer, so it doesn't feel boring or disappointing. Pretty easy and quick read, I'd say you should just do it.

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>that feel when self proclaimed philosopher
>that feel when writing
>that feel when reading your own writing
>think its constantly shit
>that feel when stumbling upon ancient philosophers and modern philosophers writings and teachings
>they are reflections and exact images of your own writings
>that feel when never having read any books of famous philosophers
>dont read at all

am i an autistic savant in the way of philosophy? I am not trained in any school of thinking, but no matter how many ancients i see my writings and thinking are always exactly what they have said and written, regardless of their schools of philosophy. I have created it all in my own mind.
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>>7798123
You are interpreting them in the light of your own biases.
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>>7798147
>In this poem, Parmenides describes two views of reality. In "the way of truth" (a part of the poem), he explains how reality (coined as "what-is") is one, change is impossible, and existence is timeless, uniform, necessary, and unchanging. In "the way of opinion," he explains the world of appearances, in which one's sensory faculties lead to conceptions which are false and deceitful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmenides

i have said exactly this in my own words in an elaborate manner. This is one of many instances that i can recall having similarities to famous philosophers.
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>>7798153
Have you considered how to defend said stance? Because Parmenides is usually contrasted with Heraclitus and the matter is far from settled, even today.

In any case, anticipating the ancients isn't that impressive since they start from thoughts that most people have at some point in their lives, even if they don't develop them. I remember anticipating Plato's forms as a teenager, although not nearly as explicitly as Plato.

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Hey /lit/

Im an aspiring diplomat. What books should I read about foreign affairs and non related literature that will make me look educated and fancy pants-y in front of my peers?
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>>7798104
what country are you from?
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>>7798126

Chile
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>>7798131
History of the Peloponnesian War
Leviathan
Sunzi
Analects
Laozi
The Strategy of Conflict
What Is History?
The State and Revolution
Causes of War
Perception and Misperception in International Politics
The Tragedy of Great Power Politics
After Hegemony
On War
On Guerrilla Warfare

you will also need to know your national history and literature very well. know some neruda to be able to allude to it. foreigners will like that

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I've read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and The Curse of Lono, how does Campaign Trail hold up? Considering reading it.

Also, Hunter S general
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It's fantastic. I think it's his best work.
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>>7798119
Can you explain why? I loved Fear and Loathing (because how could you not) and I also enjoyed Lono, despite the bad press it received. Would I also like Campaign Trail?
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>>7798168
Imagine everything you loved about Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas, but instead of Thompson simmering in a hotel room he's crisscrossing the country keeping track of a presidential campaign.

It's the wackiest, most madcap shit, but at the same time it's a running meditation on the state of America and the collapse of the dreams of the hippies.

Plus, at one point Thompson has a snake he takes with him to a hotel. It gets loose, and the acid-dropping bellboy freaks the fuck out on seeing it and beats it to death. That's worth buying a book over, I think.

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what makes a good prose?
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organic fluidity
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This post is quite funny. Thank you.
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It's what you have when your writing has no content and your friends are struggling to compliment you on it.

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How to into Lucian?

Which collection of Lucian is the best to start with? The Oxford, Norton, or Penguin? They all contain "A True Story" afaik, but if anyone could help me on the quality of the translation and other works included, that would be great.

t. Classics major who is starting with the greeks
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>>7797744
>How to into Lucian?
learn to use your passive and weave autos between abilities

its pretty simple from then on, he's freelo right now
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>>7797744
I don't think this book contains A True Story but Penguin Classics Satirical Sketches are absolutely wonderful.
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Do any of those publish with Greek?

If you're doing Classics where you have to learn Greek, Lucian is very handy, because his Atticizing Greek is how it should be done and his Ionian is god-tier. You'll probably want this:
http://dcc.dickinson.edu/lucian-true/introduction

If you're reading it without an interest in learning Greek, I'd still recommend that you read the notes off that on grammar, because it does really help appreciate how good he was. For translations, I can't help, but choosing something where you get other works of his you might be interested in will probably work out. You'll need to be well read in the Greeks to understand a lot of his in-jokes, so choose something you're familiar with who he might be mocking.

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How do I get into into poetry? How does one naturally detect metre and what not without having to stumble on a few lines for longer than necessary? What are some good poets to begin with in English?
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Bumping because I'm genuinely in need of advice.
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>>7797723
ted hughes
dylan thomas
seamus heaney
the truth the dead know by anne sexton
for the union dead by robert lowell
the emperor of ice-cream & the snow man by wallace stevens
hollow men & the waste lands by t.s. eliot
this be the verse by philip larkin
canto 1 by ezra pound
farm implements & rutabagas in a landscape by john ashbery
howl by allen ginsberg
all the world's a stage & full fathom five by shakespeare
my grandmother's love letters by hart crane

this should be enough to get you started
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>>7797723
>how does one naturally detect metre
experience. get an easy "metric manual" and try to detect the metre on canon works (avoid free verse for now)

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Hello, i'll be frank as opposed to folks on here i'm literary retarded.

I read maybe a book or two a year (I know depressing) i realize this and i want to start reading.

What are some good books that I could begin to read now so that later I can start reading deeper, heavier hitting books? (not the normie shite)

Thank You!
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>>7797685
you read far more than the posters here
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>>7797685
Create a Goodreads account
Add the books you like
Use recommendations

They will give you "Classic" examples of stuff you will probably like.
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selfless bump

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>tfw fideism is the only epistemological system that makes sense
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>>7797424
from a pragmatism philosophy standpoint yes you're right
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>>7797424
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>>7797448
>pragmatism
>right

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