What would a well-selling book of poetry even look like?
Like, how could a harry potter level of cash poetry book exist?
>>7334813
Like The Odyssey.
>>7334813
Maybe shitty teen love poetry but written with enough depth that it takes a small amount of effort to understand.
The form would have to be simple.
It would have to maintain its musicality (or whatever) when read both aloud and individually.
A vague political message that doesn't take too many risks but looks like it does.
Weirdness for the sake of weirdness is a must.
Incorporate social media in some way. I don't even know how. But you're gonna look hip as fuck if you post enigmatic tweets about your book.
Basically, it would be awful.
This isn't historically how popular poetry looks, but this is how it might look now.
>>7334814
i mean like modern homie
What did I just read?
>>7334529
I'm guessing its your first Pynchon novel?
>>7334532
No my second. I liked TCoL49. But this was just stupid.
A series of visually striking scenes that will flow better during the second readthrough
Quitting the internet for a year. Need some books to download before I leave. Post your favorite classic book or any book you like in general.
Pic related its what I'm currently reading.
Slaughterhouse-Five
Anna Karenina
Notes from Underground
In Search of Lost Time
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle
Of Mice and Men
Light in August
Ham on a Rye
To the Lighthouse
Hunger
>>7334548
Tried to mix it up, with some longer books, and short ones, and more difficult ones, and easy and fun ones.
If nothing else these will sure as hell keep you busy for a year.
Just started Tropic of Cancer. Couldn't finish it. Reminded me of kerouac , just an opportunity to show off about ironing the wrinkles out of cunts.
What am I missing?
>>7334282
Yes, it was pretty shit and misogynist.
Sure it was "raw," oh so authentic, and important to the sexual revolution, but fuck him and his little book. Also, I find the last point to be worrisome rather than praiseworthy.
>>7334282
You're missing an unselfcensored absolute madman from the 1930s.
It's really something special for its time.
>>7334361
What's the last point? Couldn't endure it to the end.
Can we brainstorm some good "happy" books? Not saccharine or optimistic stuff necessarily, but things that challenge the idea that all literary fiction is dour and soul searching.
it's a children's book about a small mouse with a red hat that lives inside a mushroom
illustrations with warm colors and at least some pages that take place in autumn mandatory
>>7334269
The little prince
>>7334269
Lorf of the rings is happy. Various comedies, Wodehouse and Wilde. Three men in a boat, some Dickens.
Do you guys ever worry that you are becoming less creative with your writing as you get older and that they are becoming less worthwhile because you can't play with them as effectively?
Every year on my birthday I ask for a cheap spiderman action figure as a 'joke' gift. I also ask for 1 random household item to be packaged along with the spiderman. I then try to play with them and create a story based on the playing that I do with the two objects.
Picture 1 is the story I created 5 years ago
Picture 2 is the story from this year.
Apologies for the fonts being ugly, I just typed these up for the thread, I handwrite the stories and my writing is a mess.
I am concerned for myself, because this years story was pathetic, uncreative and stupid whereas 5 years ago I actually made quite a fun and creative story.
How do you guys stay creative? You must have adult lives and struggle with it, right?
Wow
Just... wow
>>7334248
Post those from 2012-14 to document your decline.
incredible work, op
are you seinfeld2000?
Unless you make a habit of discussing what you have read frequently, reading that is not done for pleasure is quite clearly a waste of time. You will forget just about everything about the book you are reading in about three years. And I mean everything, it will be as if you never even heard of the name. Go ahead and recall fine details from a book you read more than three years ago that you did not need to study for school or for some other work. This effect compounds itself with the more books you read
This is especially true for contents upon which you have little interest, or have no relevance to your life (neither of which are conducive to storage in LTM). If you are reading a book on say, Marxism this is fine as Marxism is very much something you will encounter regularly. But if it is regarding the hermeneutics of Wittgenstein? Forget about it
So put down that dry philosophic tome you are currently forcing yourself through to look smart for /lit/ and just have fun. And remember, life is short
>>7334192
Life is very long.
my captcha for this was cactus
>>7334192
>You will forget just about everything about the book you are reading in about three years
this is how you recognize quality books. they're the ones you remember
I'm sorry you're too pleb for this
Fuck off
Some time ago there was a youtube thread and /lit/ recommended this guy,
now I see he uploaded a (very positive, so far) review of
>Submission - Michel Houellebecq
and he references a recent (positive) review by Knausgaard of the book.
(Who himself references À rebours by Huysmans.)
So I thought I make a thread and dump those links here and watch/read on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IBT9FkruS0
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/books/review/michel-houellebecqs-submission.html?_r=0
/lit/ seems less favorable of him, if I recall. Is it because they disregard the opinions expressed, or somehow because of the writing?
>>7334119
sick viral marketing, saged
>>7334121
Because so many people are on /lit/?
I've never watched a video by the guy and after reading the Knausgaard review am at minute 7 in the clip now.
This guy is a piece of shit who cares more about his image than any real discussion. Might as well just skim the book's Wikipedia page because he sure doesn't have any insight
He pretty much just makes film reviews now anyway, in other words, he admits he's a hack
Why did Nabokov call Dostoevsky "a cheap sensationalist"? I can't read Russian, so I couldn't get into an in depth discussion of his prose (the P&V English is great, though), but I can't fathom how that label is remotely appropriate. The sensationalism in Dostoevsky has to do with people being melodramatic or autistic from reading certain books, which leads to results ranging from humorous to tragic. And his works certainly have a lot more substance than that, I mean, for Pete's sake. "Cheap sensationalism" is like dime novels or something, how is work like Notes from the Underground a dime novel?
Did Nabokov just hate how overtly Christian Dostoevsky's work was?
>>7333970
because dostoevsky was a reactionary with poor prose
>muh_reforming_waifu.exe
he's totally a sensationalist.
nabokov was literally autistic. His writing was good but his taste was absolute shit
What are some good books written in the form of journal entries?
>>7333918
The Sorrows of Young Werther
my diary, to be honest
>>7333924
"Sorrows" are written as letters to Werther's friend, not as a diary.
>new york times bestseller
>a game changer
>page turner
>>7333891
I love it when they put labels on books, so that refined patricians such as ourselves know which abominations to avoid.
>>7333891
>page turner
>experimental
Can we have a discussion about note-taking?
Do you write in the margins of your books? Do you highlight? Circle words? Underline phrases? Do you dog-ear the pages of your books? Or do you prefer to leave them unblemished?
Do you take notes with pen and paper? Do you use shorthand? Or do you use a certain program on your laptop? Or maybe just jot down notes on your phone? How do you organize your notes?
Personally, I take notes obsessively. I use pic related mostly for daily to-do lists.I study history soI tend to love my books harshly, filling the pages with marginal notes and highlighter ink. For novels and fiction though I usually take notes on Google Docs or on any notebook paper and then transcribe the notes later. I also make extensive use of post-its and a cork board - I'll jot down authors or works or events or whatever to look up later. I have my own crude system of shorthand but I'd like to learn real shorthand eventually, and develop a better system for organizing my notes.
>tl;dr note-taking general
I don't think I could come up with a more boring topic of discussion no matter how hard I tried
bravo
I'm with you on the rough love--my books look disgusting with my tri-color note taking. I recently moved abroad and buying the books I want has become ridiculously expensive, so I've been wondering if anyone has any good suggestions on taking notes while using an e-reader?
I have a series of notes on individual pages that contain all the male and female characters in the story and some background on them. I can't imagine not doing this since otherwise you can't keep track of thier fucking shit.
I need to write a short fairytale (500-1000 words) for an assignment pls halp
>Two sentence email to my advisor due tomorrow
>Haven't started
How fucked am I?
>>7333716
>fairytale
>fucking easiest thing to write
I just submitted a five page fairy tale screenplay for a competition last week. It took under 2 hours to write twice as much as what you need to write.
i wrote a thing.
(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ
I hid a thread.
I see you read some Greeks.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me if I enjoyed this? I liked the short stories aspect but a full novel/series would be fine
I'm also a huge fan of Book of the New Sun, not exactly the same kinda SF but I guess I'm just looking for pretty original science fiction
the structure and interpretation of computer programs
>>7333647
>the structure and interpretation of computer programs
An absolute classic. Good taste.
Ted Chiang is a boss
