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>tfw started philosophy with postmodernists
>now can't distract myself from them
Is my thinking fucked up for eternity?
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>>8181593
>postmodernist """""philosophy"""""
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>>8181593
Yes, unfortunately. This is how continental philosophy works, it's like a horoscope with vague sweeping statements that can be applied equally to the correct revolutionary way to apply makeup or the hermeneutic implications of the Banach-Tarsky paradox on Modern Monetary Theory In Bernie Sanders' Writings

It's like one of those brain infecting memetic attacks from SCP only real.
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>>8181642
I want to make Continential Philosophy a real SCP now. Keter class of course

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How do you cope with the sadness that comes with approaching the end of a series you really loved reading?
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Knowing I will never run out of other books to read.
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>>8181487
/thread/
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How do you cope with the sadness that comes with approaching the end of a series of experiences that you call your life?

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Assuming I have already resolved to read some alt-lit, what works are least worst?
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They're all on the same level of mediocrity. I'd suggest not wasting your time. To stratify the badness that is alt-lit is impossible since all altlit is collectively as awful as possible.
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sam pink is hilarious, nothing amazing or anything like that but i'd say one of the better ones
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>>8181231
I second this. Funny stuff. Every book is written in pretty much the same exact voice though.

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Write eroticism like pynchon, go!

...

He always had a snake wrapped around his waist, and he walked with a limp. He saw the board girl in the corner of the room and knew she was the one he was supposed to meet...
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>>8180597
then, suddenly, goofy came in, with a black woman stuck on his knot, and took a steamy hot dump into the gullet of his hot neckbeard tranny wife
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Blately Envoy, protagonist, read with feverish devotion medical manuals describing the function and structure of the human gonads, constructing in the theater of his mind an ever more elaborate, ever more immediate image of a lone and levitating phallus the color of a classic sculpture erupting like an audience as its unchristian juices splattered the pine flooring.

I was going to continue but I can't be bothered sorry

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>Surveying with one glance the current state of Western literature-and by literature, I mean novels, poems, and plays, but also the traditional nonfiction modalities like the literary essay and the great work of philosophy-compared to what it looked like in, say, the first half of the twentieth century, what strikes one is an appalling decline in overall quality. Reading a contemporary novel, like Salman Rushdie's The Ground Beneath Her Feet, which falls apart about halfway through; or Umberto Eco's The Island of the Day Before, which starts off promising, but reads more and more like an outline for a novel; or Cormac McCarthy's All the Pretty Horses, which is so self-consciously affected that it reads like a caricature of Faulkner; or even a master like Thomas Pynchon, whose Mason & Dixon goes in and out of focus, one is inevitably perplexed by the awkwardness of the performance.

>While it is true that more books are being published than ever before, a close inspection of the average level of quality offered by most publishers reveals them to be the literary equivalent of fast food: trashy Barnes and Noble-type coffee table books with more pictures than words; computer and business books; cookbooks; graphic "novels"; pop fiction bestsellers. Worse, the books that pass for "real" literature, like Jonathan Franzen's The Corrections or Toni Morrison's Paradise or Arthur Gulden's Memoirs of a Geisha, are really just frauds masquerading as literature, rip-offs from great novels of the past displaced to modern, or exotic, settings. The handful of real artists out there practicing real literature-Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Doris Lessing, Salman Rushdie-grows ever smaller, while the frauds, and the public's inability to discern the difference between them, proliferate.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Le5BNvv6pO4J:http://0-literature.proquest.com.fama.us.es/searchFulltext.do

How does it feel to be a bunch of frauds?
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>Rushdie
>an artist
No. I basically agree with the excerpt you posted, but Rushdie has always been a hack with one gimmicky claim to fame and nothing beyond that.
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>>8180414
>a master like Thomas Pynchon

sad times indeed
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>>8180452
rushdie didn't give me the sense of being worthwhile either

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So, this is basically fan fiction, right?
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>>8180393
The original was just airport fiction that got blown out of proportion by film nerds so who cares.
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>>8180425

Ok buckle up this is my reimagining of P&P but this time around? There's fags. Hope you enjoy!

Elizabeth Bennet was eating a grilled cheese sandwich for breakfast with Steve, some faggot who had asked her out on a date.

"Sure is hot out today huh?" Said steve, who was an enormous fucking faggot. Ever since he was a boy people had shouted "Hey faggot!" at him from car windows and house windows and bus windows.

"Want some ketchup on that sandwich girl?" Said Steve, who's clumsy employment of african american vernacular, coupled with the ultimate faggot move of putting ketchup on food, was the ultimate confluence of faggotry. Not only that, at that moment his cellphone rang and the ring tone was a popular song at the time. It was the Faggot Store, and they wanted their fag back (Steve is their faggot.)

"Well I gotta go back to the Faggot store where I suck dick all day."

"Goodbye Steve" said Elizabeth Bennet as she finished her sandwich. She went outside the restaurant and the sun was shining in a cool but sad way, like life could end at any moment but that's what makes it beautiful. It was beautiful to be young, she decided, as she bicycled through the city. A bunch of ugly faggots beckoned to her: "Hey lady, wanna watch Game of Thrones and refer to things like guacamole as 'Guac'?"

"No thanks!" Said Elizabeth. She could tell this faggot had spent like $40 on his shoes, because if there's one thing that should be cheap it's the article of clothing you wear every day. "You're a fag I can tell by your gay shoes and shit taste." She spat on him and Nelson Mandela who had recently risen from his grave was passing by and hi-fived her mightily.

Her hand smarted from hi fiving Nelson Mandela so hard but in a good way, you know? She continued biking through town in a cool whimsical way, slaloming between manhole covers while riding with no hands. She got hit by a car and convalesced for 18 months before being released from the hospital. After 18 months of hospital food there was just one thing on Elizabeth's mind: to do pottery. At her favorite local pottery store she shaped some wet putty into a gay little vase. It was too small to put any flowers in but slightly too big to put on a desk and use as a pencil holder. It was the ultimate useless piece of faggot shit. She grinned like a jackpot millionaire "Fuck the government. We need to use our guns to shoot every agent of the government until we either implode or reach the moon." she said to no one in particular. The adderall was kicking in. It was time to create a new society.
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so this was chapter one let me know if you guys want more!
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>>8180392
Do you think you are funny? I bet you spent all semester coming up with this "witty" retelling. Nobody over the age of 20 would derive any sort of enjoyment from this drivel. You may as well have ripped off the idea to do it all in emojis.
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are gays the new zombies? is call of duty going to have gays in it now?

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Doesn't anyone get afraid of posting their work online only to have someone else reuse or steal it?

I really want to know if this has ever happened to anyone too.
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>>8180205
>Doesn't anyone get afraid of posting their work online only to have someone else reuse or steal it?

yes, children do. you are not good enough to bother stealing from.
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>implying it's good
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Ha I didn't realize it'd come off like that. I've just never put anything out there before... Does no one else think about this though?

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Are there any space operas besides Foundation, Dune and Ringworld?
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Working on it...

How have you helped the Future Galactic Semiimperatrix thus far?
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>>8180219

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22Future+Galactic+Semiimperatrix%22
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>>8180181
There are books by Lois McMaster Bujold and James S. A. Corey that look like they're probably space opera.

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What are some other books like these?
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Grundrisse?
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Not sure about Gundrisse. Is it >>8179980

As for the Silmarillion, try:

Hesiod, including Theogony, the Works and Days, the Shield of Herakles

Snorri Sturluson, the Prose Edda, the Heimskringla

Njall's Saga

The Orkenyinga Saga

The Poetic Edda
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>>8179967
Kekbump.

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I'm a recent high school graduate, soon to be freshman in uni, and I'd like to expand my knowledge of literature, in a sense- widen my horizons. I'm super interested in stoic phillosophy, so I've put "Letters from a Stoic," and "Meditations" on my list. Anything else that you might recommend?
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don't pay attention to the /lit starter kit that some memer is going to post: it's shit
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go through wikipedia for names of important texts. if you can't do independent study you're not going to be able to read a whole book
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>>8179602
Infinite Jest

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I just finished small gods by terry pratchett and im depressed that this plotline ends with just one book.

Are any of the other discworld books similar and worth reading?
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The whole series is quite cozy
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>>8179579
Postal and making money are fantastuc
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>Are any of the other discworld books similar and worth reading?

All of them. Except maybe Rincewind. But if you enjoy Discworld you should read them.

Yes, yes, well done, Zizek, well done

HOWEVER
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sorry i don't read books by lesbians who look 12
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and so on and so on

*sniff*
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>>>/tv/

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Hey /lit/, what are some good books to help me learn more about prosody/scansion/forms? I have a decent background, having read The Ode Less Travelled, memorized the forms in it, and also having read Poetic Designs by Stephen Adams. Are there any more advanced books? I want to try to teach myself to have a very advanced understanding of poetry. Is Fussell's Poetic Verse and Poetic Form good? I heard that it is more advanced than the other books, but I wanted to hear what you guys thought of it. And by the way, I already read a lot of poetry on the side, so there's no need to tell me to "just read poetry." Thanks
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rump a bump bump
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>>8179106

Book of Forms
Poets Guide to Poetry

*go to your library and enter prosody in the subject search then check out those books*
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>>8179347
Thanks man, both of those seem really good

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This guy any good?
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You won't think this is so funny when this becomes a bannable offense.
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>>8179074
>when
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>>8179071
Yeah. I've walked into the English department office and found everyone wanking to a picture of him in a circle twice now, once in High School and once in Uni.

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