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Which is the more interesting character /lit? The one who begins the story unwilling to help others but by the end finds himself becoming the hero he never thought he was? Or the one who begins the story thinking he is this way, but in reality he is too good of a person to not lend aid when it is needed?
For example: The character walks past a mugging. Is it more interesting for them to shrug it off as "just another mugging in X City", but eventually come around to helping out someone in a similar situation later? Or Is it more interesting for them to say "it's not my problem, I don't even know the guy, goddamnit I'm already heading back towards the alleyway, aren't I"?
Deciding on how I am gonna write my main character.
The first one
Is there a real distinction between the two?
Do people really even have natures?
Does he intervene because he was angry and subconsciously, maybe just spoiling for a fight?
Does he wonder if on a different day he might have had second thoughts?
I don't think a good book is one where an author directly tells the audience that "this is a good person" or "this guy is not a good person, but he's trying"
A good book has interpretive elements held together by a strong core theme that is demonstrated in the way characters act out their own internal conflicts.
Maybe the question you posit is a question he asks himself?
"Am I a bad person who's trying to be good, or a good person who doesn't know it yet?"
Self-doubt is a pretty key theme, especially if you're dealing with the struggle towards heroism.
>>7834745
>Maybe the question you posit is a question he asks himself?
I do like this, actually. I see the character as being something like a rebel at heart. He lives in a pretty fucked authoritarian society, his family has suffered tremendously at the hands of the government, he himself is a criminal and a thief, etc. A reason for him intervening in a mugging would probably be a simple hatred of seeing someone weak getting screwed over by someone stronger.
How does that sound? The problem I am having is I am not sure if having his family deleted by the gov't would incline him towards helping others fight back or against what he might see as a hopeless cause.
Favorite/best and least favorite/worst ASoIaF book and why.
I personally thought "A Storm of Swords" was the strongest book, but "Clash of Kings" is my favourite. "A Feast for Crows" is arguably the weakest of the series in my opinion.
wtf happened to rob starks mom. I thought they brought her back to life? also who brought her back to life again?
>>7834684
reddit general?
list your favorite medieval books. interested in the genre
The Murder, Betrayal, and Slaughter of Charles, Count of Flanders is a great introduction to high medieval lay thought
Medieval isn't a genre
once and future king is the only acceptable /lit answer
What does /lit/ think of Donna Haraway and the Cyborg Manifesto?
Are we all cyborgs in the post-modern sense?
From Wikipedia: Haraway's cyborg theory rejects the notions of essentialism, proposing instead a chimeric, monstrous world of fusions between animal and machine. Cyborg theory relies on writing as "the technology of cyborgs," and asserts that "cyborg politics is the struggle for language and the struggle against perfect communication, against the one code that translates all meaning perfectly, the central dogma of phallogocentrism." Instead, Haraway’s cyborg calls for a non-essentialized, material-semiotic metaphor capable of uniting diffuse political coalitions along the lines of affinity rather than identity. Following Lacanian feminists such as Luce Irigaray, Haraway’s work addresses the chasm between feminist discourses and the dominant language of Western patriarchy. As Haraway explains, “grammar is politics by other means,” and effective politics require speaking in the language of domination."
Cyborg Manifesto PDF:
http://faculty.georgetown.edu/irvinem/theory/Haraway-CyborgManifesto-1.pdf
Donna Haraway Reads The National Geographic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLN2ToEIlwM
>>7834617
>Donna Haraway
>post-modern
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
nice bait, r8 it 8/8
but does current /lit/ even know who she is?
"Hey anon, whatcha reading?"
Naked Lunch by William Burroughs.
>>7834578
You don't want to know.
Well, this here fella's gone taken his asshole for a walk, but I ain't read to seen where he takin' it.
"How can you have no government when man has a conscience?" - Kierkegaard
We have government so that's that.
Conscience = Order.
Government = Hierarchy.
Governments and global capitalism do not create order, but rather stimulate intentional chaos for power and profit, which will drown out more natural human order. Conscience means order, not government. Anarchy is not chaos but the absence of hierarchy.
>>7834552
top lel
Is this worth reading if you like Deleuze?
>>7834432
>if you like deleuze.
bro, if you like deleuze, it's an absolute must read.
>>7834447
is this the best book of delanda to start with?
>>7834458
yes. then read fanged noumena by nick land.
why is he never brought up here?
who is he?
Possible replies to this thread:
1. /lit/ doesn't read.
2. He writes middlebrow crap.
3. He hates Muslims.
>>7834345
...........
Salman Rushdie
Where should I start with this beast?
>>7834276
the greeks
only thing I read by him was Germinal, but that was pretty good
yeah go with germinal
Is there a word for something that pretends to be more artful or refined than it actually is?
Pretentious literally means that, and can be applied to works and people:
adjective
adjective: pretentious
attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.
"a pretentious literary device"
Maybe kitsch too? But kitsch can be non-pretentious
>>7834182
Rap
>>7834182
Do you remember that time a kid shoved a cookie roll in his underwear and posted it on /lit/? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
>"The second [idea] is about a television show, which I've heard is the new novel, about a woman, who..."
>which I've heard is the new novel
>the new novel
DFW predicted this.
>>7834127
That movie is shite and so is that cunt actress robot shieeeet
>>7834186
frances ha was great though...
>>7835204
what was that about again
just got this in my mail today....think it's /lit/-worthy?
>>7834000
Not really
>>7834000
No.
>>7834000
Nah but your tweed carpet and trips are pretty damn bitching.
Hello /lit/. I've just begun to study Old Norse, and I would like to read the literature (sagas, poetry, etc) in the original. There are plenty of online sources, but I would prefer reading a real, print copy. Anyone know where to find Old Norse literature in the original language/bilingual? And any recommendations for great Old Norse lit?
Also, Scandinavian lit general.
>>7833856
>I've just begun to study Old Norse
>I've just begun to study Old Norse
So I just finished GR and compared to the rest of the novel that ending was bleak. But I'm left wondering at the whole overarching meaning of it all besides DUDE WEED LMAO. What was Pynchon's purpose in writing this behemoth? That being said I enjoyed it immensely. I've read Inherent Vice, V., The Crying of Lot 49, and I believe this is my favorite Pynchon novel. Also what was the exact purpose and cause in Slothrop's dispersal. Anyway GR discussion and appreciation thread.
technology brining us to a globalized state of perpetual war
there is no conspiracy but there are many conspiracies all moving parts in a larger machine that ends in our death
blicero goes beyond the zero (recall opening epigraph) in his sacrificial launching of the 00000
>>7833675
GR was a lot like a hard trip for me. Nothing fully resolved, hallucinatory images, but the overall impression was of something really dark gathering that breaks apart anything that tries to stand in its way. Slothrop and the counterforce both fall apart as soon as they get near the truth about the mil-industrial machine they're trying to resist, so as far as a purpose for Slothrop's dispersal I think it's supposed to parallel the dispersal of the counterforce.
>>7833748
i agree with this except that the point is there is no 'truth'
the book is a wild goose chase for one renegade nazi's spiritual-sexual performance
there is no evil secret because the evil truth is right in front of everyone's eyes. slothrop himself is part of the military industrial complex. it is people like slothrop and mexico and tantivy and pirate that let the atom bomb be dropped.
one of the most poignant scenes in the book is mexico's slapstick revenge that ends in pissing on pointsman's board members. that's the end product of the whole rebellion. that's the counterforce. pointsman, a broken man of little influence anymore, pissing on his board members, not even HIM, and that's it.
“You may never get to touch the Master, but you can tickle his creatures.”
Who is the Quentin Tarantino of novel writing? (No academic qualifications in writing, celebrated for an original and unique style etc).
>>7833615
Quentin Tarantino. He plans to stop directing after his tenth film and instead focus on novels and plays.
>>7833615
Be yourself, anon. Now go finish your screenplay
Pepe the frog
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