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What would /lit/ consider The Holders series to be?

Or even SCP?


http://theholders.org/
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-series

I'm guessing maybe scifi fantasy horror mystery? Anyone know of actual series written by real authors that are similar to SCP and Holders?

I know it's mainly shit-tier fanfic writing but the actual premise and theme is what intrigues me.
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So this is a bait thread to post the best SCP pages right?

Out of the way edgy horror writer plebs.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-50-ae-j
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The Holders is worse than SCP.
At least SCP has variety with its artifacts. Holders is "don't do this thing or you will go irreversibly insane and/or die horribly. Do this thing instead, which will also make you go irreversibly insane and/or die horribly." repeated ad nauseam, with writing that gets stale after the second artifact or whatever the hell they call those things.
SCP at least has the decency to do multiple things badly instead of just one over and over.
That being said, SCP is alright. Not every article is great, but there are some interesting ones and short stories floating around.
And it's definitely scifi horror.
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>>7836570
Where can I find more, better stories of a similar nature?

I'm guessing Lovecraft would be a good start but I'm honestly not sure

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>The incompetence of the American military
>Blind Japanese samurai and a Japanese otaku 2chan poster
>Stupid concepts like quislings and feral children
>Israel is best rael
>"Muh dogs even though I hated them but now I attack people that do and now I'm in a special K9 unit durrrrrrr"
>DUDE I'M GUARDING RICH CELEBRITIES AND BILL MAHER AND ANNE COULTER ARE HAVING SEX ON THE BEACH LMAO

Why do people pretend to like this book again?
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>>7836136
A different perspective in the zombie genre.
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>>7836147
*A "different" perspective askew with shitty pop culture
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>>7836136
I always thought it looked like pop culture YA fiction like Ready Player One and therefore ignored it completely.

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So I started reading A Confederacy of Dunces after my mother gave it to me last Christmas, calling it "a funny and unique experience". After slogging through 65 pages I've barely cracked a smile. Does it get any better?
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>>7836078
I was in tears in the first 10 pages. Just give up, it's not for you
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does it hit a little too close to home?

cause it does for me. but I still think it's really damn funny.
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It's probably not for you. I read up to page 150, didn't really smile or laugh.

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Is there a word for the phenomenon when a human believes in something so entirely that it becomes true?
Something like a placebo, only outside the medical context? Or is placebo the word I'm looking for?

Is there a word for when this happens on a cultural scale?
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Reification comes close.
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>>7836070
Meme magic

Lmao 4chan humor is so Great XD
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that is the meaning of belief
you would not believe in something that is not true

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I'm loving this book so far but I'm also very interested in how polarising this book is here on /lit/.

Let's have a casual discussion about this book: why do you love it? Why do you hate it? Did you have a favourite scene/passage/paragraph/etc? Did the book disappoint you? What did you honestly expect when reading this? (that's not a sarcastic question, I'm genuinely interested since people's perception of this book often seems to differ from what they actually read)

Also why is this the best Moby Dick cover?
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Read it when I was 14, was pretty good and I enjoyed the chapter about Captain Ahab's dream the most. I had a dictionary with me though so it was difficult to read straight through comfortably.
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>>7835938
I personally expected most of the book to focus on tracking down Moby Dick but they don't set sail until after the first 100 pages and you don't hear about Moby Dick until after the first 200 pages. I'm not complaining, but it was quite a surprise when I first started reading it, but I love the pacing of this book. It won't be for everyone, but I'm even fascinated by the methods and means of how the whalers would strip the whale carcass and the superstitions of the men aboard the ship. the bit where Tastego gets stuck in the whale head and the whale head sinks, Queequeg being the only one able to save him by diving down and cutting him out of the head had me on the edge of my seat; plus when Stubb kills his sperm whale is brutal too, blood spouting from the blow hole. The book is downright brutal and grisly at times which surprised me, although maybe it shouldn't surprise me since it is a book focusing on whaling.
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>>7835938
I expected Ahab to be an absolute dire human being who should be disdained and hated, but in fact what you end up getting from him is somebody self-tormented and unable to enjoy anything ever, feeling burdened and constantly troubled. I felt a tad sorry for Ahab.

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Ride the Tiger
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>>7835889
Mein Kampf
Schopenhauer's 'On Women'
Decline of the West
The Culture of Critique Series
Atlas Shrugged
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Finnegans wake

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Through literature I've been able to vicariously live the experiences of many different men from many different cultures, and this has taught me as much as anything else about 'being a man'. When the book is written honestly (i.e. not for commercial reasons), I often find myself relating to the character, gaining a better insight into the problems of my own life, and so on. So through a combination of my own experience and the writing of hundreds of male authors, I feel like I have a pretty good knowledge of the male psyche.

What books can help me to better understand the female psyche? I don't care if it's feminist literature or not (although I'll probably find it difficult to agree with any third wave feminism), I just want honest accounts of the experiences of women - the things they see and do, what meaning they attach to them, the problems that women have that men don't appreciate, and so on. Pic related is probably the first novel by a female author I've read since my YA days, but I thought it was crap. I'd appreciate any further suggestions because I'd like to read more female authors.
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Middlemarch
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Tampa - Alissa Nutting
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Drinking Coffee Elsewhere by ZZ Packer
Interpreter of Maladies by Jhumpa Lahiri

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Does anybody have any thoughts on canto 4
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this is my summary
Dante wakes up due to the lighting, Virgil tells Dante to follow him as they descend in to the abyss and Dante objects because he think Virgil is there to confront him as well. They enter the first circle and there many are great historical figures. They did not commit great “sin” but were batisased or were born before a time of Christian. Those linked to god but born before the church are blessed and are sent to heaven Adam, mosses, able, Abraham and David. Lost people and live in “desire”. Dante feels pity for the great people that are sent to the first circle. The great poets and writers honor Dante and he was considering one of them. Saw great Greek figures and Brutus is in circle 1.
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and my thoughts

This seems to be heaven for those interest in old literature and Dante seems to enjoy this circle of hell and oddly enough pity’s the dammed. Hell instead is not only for the morally reprehensible but the misguided even if that did not have a chance to know god. This is also interesting because he starts his journey to hell with something good and this may because it’s is subversive to the thoughts of the reader. Dante also purposely makes the conditions of the circles broad absolutes and questions the legitimacy of that system and therefor questions God.

“He made me enter”
Dante use the “made” in this sentence, “He” referrers to Virgil, this implies that there was some element of force but since Virgil is a shade he can apply none, however this could mean that Dante has reached the point of no return in his journey to hell and was forced by his circumstance and not Virgil himself.
(Canto 4 Henry Wadsworth Longfellow translation in 1807-1882)

*Is not referring to the Brutus that killed Caesar to but an ancestor of Brutus that founded the roman republic by killing his superior.
Brutus and his predecessor commit similar acts, have similar intentions but their results seem to be the deciding factor. Dante purposely put these Brutus on opposing circles of hell in order to show what “divine justice” gives propriety, God only seems to care about what results from the actions.

This raises questions to what Dante considerers homosexuality as most Greeks did engage in homosexual behavior, could actions negate sins, does Dante considered homosexuality the romantic relationship between men rather then sexual another possibility is Dante lacks a lot of information on the Greeks and is ignorant to this.

“Lamentations none but only sighs and this arose form sorrow without torment”
This could simply be boredom as there their eternal plane of existence is lack luster and uninteresting and it may be torment for such interesting people.
(Canto 4 Henry Wadsworth Longfellow translation in 1807-1882)
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>>7835826
...brutus?

>>7835816
i mean what do you want to know about it? it sets forth the standard/recurring theme of the commedia that human knowledge, logic, reasoning, and striving, no matter how virtuous and accomplished, cannot propel one into heaven. only the grace and mercy of god can achieve that, as evidenced by the reference to the harrowing of hell in which christ came down to rescue certain figures from limbo. dante also sets himself up as the equal of the renowned poets of old - homer, horace, etc. - by conversing with them as equals, and perhaps also, sets himself up as their superior since he is able to progress beyond them.

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ITT we come up with the premise of the next smash hit YA post apocalyptic novel.
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Adults are all sterile so teens have to fuck but very few people will be compatible. If you fuck the wrong person you go sterile like the adults. To determine compatibility you have to do gay mazes / battle royals / gay shit with your possible matches. Meanwhile the virus / aliens / shadowy dudes are trying to make everyone sterile for some reason.
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>>7835750
I would watch the film adaptations.
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>>7835750
....

this actually sounds like it would sell. it would also encounter ardent resistance from fundamentalists/anti-lgbt factions, and the controversy would only serve to propel its popularity

goddamn someone get on this

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Im looking for a book on understanding Chaucer. Recommendations?
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Start with the Greeks.
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>>7835567
Godammit, not this shit again.
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>>7835567
>>7835573
kek

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Can GRRM write without violence, death, and objectifying women?

Take that all away, and ASOIAF is Gary Gygax's futile attempt at literature.
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His sci fi works are pretty good
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man her tits really suck
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Can Cormac McCarthy write without violence, death, and objectifying women?

Take that all away, and BM is a landscaper's futile attempt at literature

Has anyone read this book in Persian? I am using the Darbandi and Davis translation. Is there a better translation, in any aspect, available? How did you like (or not like) this book?
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>>7835494
lol im not a fucking persian how would i even read it lmao
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>>7835498
xD
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Hoopoe is best bird

I thought the syncretism between the pre-islamic Persian folklore creature and the Sufi conception of God was pretty neat - better than in the Shah Nameh where it just shows up and takes care of rejected albino children other than feeling royal.

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>lazy NEET
>fucked over by Tarantyev the chad
>cucked by best friend
>watches all his dreams slowly fall away

no wonder this is one of /lit/s fav books
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>>7835426
It's a great educational piece of the pitfalls of NEETing wrongly to be honest.
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I am wholly satisfied with the ending, though the parts with Agafya was pretty sad
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>>7835430
>NEETing wrongly

If anything it showed me that the only thing between me and seven naps a day is crippling depression, shame and an inherited estate

Anyone read pic related?

Thoughts?

It's a pulitzer prize winner by the way so if you guys haven't read it I suggest you do - you can find a free ePub somewhere online
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>>7835378

[Spoiler]Was the man with the prosthetic lower leg that Volkheimer saw in the train Werner?[/Spoiler]
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>>7835381
good fucking god
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I'm halfway through. Nice light read before bed.

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LotR, although great, is still a generic good vs evil story.
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>>7835369
On a very basic level, yes.
But there also the whole Germanic pseudo-myth stuff and Tolkien's fancy prose things and what not that make it so good.
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>>7835369
>genre fiction

Poster 67268755 doesn't know shit about /lit/ apparently
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>>7835369
Every story is good vs evil

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