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Give me your top 5 /lit/ approved books/meme books.
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Infinite jest
Blood meridian
Ulysses
Gravities rainbow
2666

These 5 books make a skill rainbow starting at amazing peaking at cannon masterwork, and back down to amazing
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>>8277415

harry potter series
a song of ice and fire series
hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
ready player one
the martian
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>>8277415
saved. Golden picture

I liked them, thought they were fun
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I like ASOIAF series as well, they're quite entertaining. Also, if you'd like them, check out Zelzany's The Chronicles Of Amber. He was Martin's mentor, and The Chronicles Of Amber books are much better than Martin's ASOIAF series.
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>>8277347
>The placement of that comma
>Liking asoshit

Not surprised
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>>8277347

Who else bought and read them ten or so years ago so now your editions don't have "Now an HBO original project" or some bollocks like that.

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Can anyone who's read the originals recommend a good translation of Rilke? I'm thinking of getting pic related because it's a bilingual edition with generally good reviews.
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Just learn german
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Snow is great. His translation does not try very hard to keep Rilke's syntax or prosody, but what he comes up with retains all of Rilke's concepts and emotions. I doubt that Rilke would write in English the way Snow does, but just looking at the stuff one can tell that all the soul is there. It's remarkable really. I actually marvel at his translations from time to time and have started basing my own poetry on how his translations turn out.
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do you think people who can read the original would read the translations? please...

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What does /lit/ think about it?
>There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper.
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>>8277287
Not true.
There is no female Mozart since women don't give a fuck about music unless it gives them control over men.
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>>8277287
>Jack the ripper didn't self identify as a trans woman

Pretty triggered TBQH
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It's a fucking embarrassment and the only reason she is famous is she is a semi literate woman who was anti-feminist and anti (then) fashionable theory at the right time in the culture wars. She's a half-retarded Allen bloom, who was himself Neely fully retarded. There's a reason she teaches at a shitty art school and is only discussed by people who shutout on 4chan and men's rights forums

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does anyone have W.S. Merwin's purgatorio?

i'd love to compare it to other translations i've read.
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what do you want to know about it
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>>8277817
i want to read it.

but i cant find any online version, and my current situation doesn’t allow me to buy it. (no permanent address)

i want to read an English verse translation and compare it to the original Italian.
Also this translation has an excellent reputation among Dante scholars. (or at least the one i know)
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PS: also China, where i'll be staying, doesn’t approve allot of books. especially 'religious' texts.

still you can get around that.

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do you have to be miserable to write well?
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No, but it fucking helps.
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>>8276974
not necessarily.
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>>8276974
>>8276979
>>8277001
Idiots.

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dont write about writing or reading. dont set anything in a school. dont have any characters be teachers or authors or even artists. dont mention the names of any famous author or artists or philosophers. under no circumstances have characters discuss literature, or their tastes in literature or movies or tv, etc. dont make youre main character an introvert who isnt understood by the morons around him. i could go on but hopefully you get the idea.
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>>8276849
>under no circumstances have characters discuss literature, or their tastes in literature or movies or tv, etc

Why is Murakami allowed to do that, then?
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>>8276849
T. i dont write
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Who are you to dictate on what and what not to do when writing. Many of those who write don't write for other people, but for themselves.

Write about whatever pleases you, don't be limited by some pretentious anon on /lit/

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>Navigate to my favorite Thai claymation board
>Make a thread to discuss early Vedantic literature
>>Poo in Loo!!! Poo in Loo!!
>>designated
>>mfw the author is brown
>>AVE MARIA DEUS VULT
>>GREEEKS
>Log off
>Jump off bridge
>Kill self

I've encountered this bug a few times. Is this working as intended or should I try to fix it? Please help me I'm new here.
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is this post not your attempt to 'fix it'?
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>>8276777
checked
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>>8276772
Try factory reseting friendo

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This has to be the most boring book I've ever read.
Are Kafka's other stories more interesting or is he being praised as one of the major figures of 20th-century literature for a reason I do not understand at all?
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My personal experience with Kafka's novels is that they always feel like bad dreams as I read them, but once I've gotten through them and contemplate them I realize how powerful the imagery and atmosphere are.
Seriously, I HATED The Castle while I was reading it but it was definitely a worthwhile experience.
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>Doesn't understand the irony of complaining about how boring The Trial was.
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>>8276631

>Are Kafka's other stories more interesting or is he being praised as one of the major figures of 20th-century literature for a reason I do not understand at all?

The second one. The Trial is so amazing I honestly feel bad that you did not enjoy it.

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Anyone into Westerns?
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does anyone have the link to the Blood Meridian review done by the shirtless obese guy?
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>le nyrb shill
fuck off
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>>8276460
Loved BM, looking to get Butcher's Crossing.

Have you read McCarthy's Border Trilogy?

the weird frontier between post irony and new sincerity are these millennials the saviors of literature?
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Are they ?
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probably not.
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>between post irony and new sincerity

Can we find a metaxy beyond polarity to the Oasis of Awakenening

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Do you think most literature critics / theorists are bluffing? Unlike most other media / art, literature takes tons of time to consume, even when talking about a single work, much more to let it gestate, be reread etc.

Is therefore any sort of meaningful, broad, encompassing insight impossible?

And is the reason this gets swept under the rug because it would ruin academic careers if admitted?
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I don't think you've read too much if at all of literary criticism.
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>>8275570

Illiterate.
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>>8275570
it's a genuine question
but your starting point is suspect to begin with.

what is "meaningful, broad, encompassing insight "? and what do you imagine it would look like? Since you said it's also impossible.


Anyway, to answer your question, depends on the critic I guess.
It's like that with film. Someone like Kermode as opposed to Bordwell.

What you want to look out for when reading any kind of criticism is the "how" of the critique.

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Books have never made me shed a tear. I partially think I haven't come across the right book yet, but maybe I lack that sense of empathy needed for literature to have that effect on me too.

Have you ever shed a tear reading literature, anons? What books have had that effect on you?
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It's an obvious choice but Steinbeck's Of Mice & Men nearly got me.
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Norwegian Wood from Murakami made me cry. When I read it I just broke up with my girlfriend and themes of the book where very relevant for me. More books of Murakami made me shed a little tear.
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Williams' Stoner. It's upsetting how relatable it is.

In any category, what would you say are the ten most important Chinese books, whether it's by influence or moral significance or quality or whatever. The Analects, the Tao Te Ching...? The Water Margin? What?

Also, on an unrelated note I remember some essay about four emperors who were bad and four sages who were good, and the point was that the bad emperors had pretty rad lives while the good sages all lived miserably and died alone. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and what it's called/who wrote it?

Pic just barely related enough to make you angry
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Journey to the West
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>>8274961
I mean RotTK, Outlaws of the Marsh/Water Margin, A Dream of Red Changers and Journey to the West are the easy answers. The Spring and Autumn Annals are cited everywhere. The Good Earth, although not written in Chinese by a Chinese was written by an extremely sympathetic daughter of long term missionaries. Lu Xun is mandatory. Jin Yong if you like Kung Fu. Gao Xingjian and Mo Yan for contemporary lit. The Blood Merchant is recent and well loved.
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>>8275033

Thanks a bunch, that's pretty helpful.

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>Looking around for some books to assist me in writing my own novel
>Every book I find is directed towards screenwriters
>"THREE ACT STORIES ARE GOD" meme

Are there ANY good books out there for would-be novel writers?

I've already read the Lite-Memoirs that everyone suggests (King's "On Writing", Atwood's "Negotiating with the Dead", Baxter's "Burning the House Down") but those are more guides of how to write in that author's style rather than general suggestions on the craft of writing itself.
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Study your favorite writers and stories.
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>>8274684

>guides of how to write in that author's style rather than general suggestions on the craft of writing itself.
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John Garder's Art of Fiction

Basically required reading

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