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How do I know I'm understanding literature? I'm reading pic related in its original language (I'm a ruski) and I'm halfway through now. It seems very difficult to apply what the underground man was talking about at the beginning to his stories, especially when I can't even be sure that what he is saying isn't all lies or entirely accurate
So far, I'm only getting the idea that he is arguing that the reason he is so neutral and inoffensive is because he find footing in reason to justify really becoming anything. then he is talking about free will bring an illusion regardless because of the "wall" of laws of nature?
When someone tells you.
>>8144003
very funny man.
>>8143998
http://www.shmoop.com/notes-from-underground/
If this isn't all stuff you could figure out by yourself, then you're not understanding it.
sup lit, rec me some good books on stoicism pls
it'll be a birthday gift for a friend
bump, fags
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/stoicism
Meditations by Aurelius
The Enchiridion by Epictetus (or his Golden Sayings)
On Old Age and On Friendship by Cicero
Whatchya reading there, anon?
>>8143832
is that morrissey?
The idiot.
>Oh what's that?
I don't even know anymore.
I'm reading the picture of dorian grey and lady chatterley's lover.
Is there actually any self-help/self-realization/spiritual/life-changing book that can at least compare with this one?
I think all of these sorts of things dance around the fact that the is-ought problem will never be solved and we have no idea what we really should do and there is no theory of everything.
socrates was right, we cannot know anything.
Zizek sums it up in the below video, while inadvertently showing how his entire philosophy (and all philosophy) is BS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1siWHmKV5c
>>8143758
The Sickness Unto Death, by Kierkegaard
The_Mind_Illuminated_A_Complete_Meditation_Guide_Integrating_Buddhist_Wisdom_and_Brain_Science_-_Yates,_Culadasa_John
Hey, /lit/. Can you please recommend me some essays, books or even some articles about depression in medical psychology? Thank you
Darkness Visible
>>8143688
http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd10/browse/2016/en#/F33
http://psycnet.apa.org/?fa=search.searchResults&type=advanced&db=pi,pb,pq,pa,pe,pt&term=depression&fields=AnyField
Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIcf-2AFHgw
I have a question about Isaac Asimov's Foundation series.
There is a certain character in the second book, who introduced himself as Magnifico the clown, who had a specific appearance.
Could Isaac Asimov as a biochemist base "scarecrow anatomy" on real-life symptoms?
I've read the series and am interested in talking about it but I have no idea what the fuck you're asking.
>>8143681Magnifico is The Mule, right?I think his name changed on the recent pt-br translation.
That's his alias before it is revealed that he is the mule.
Alright lit, I'm gonna spend 120 dollars on books. Help me rearrange the ones in the to-get section with the ones in the maybe section, or just leave them as is.
To-Get
Tales of Ordinary Madness by Charles Bukowski
The Temptation to Exist by E. M. Cioran
Queer: A Novel by William S. Burroughs
Junky: The Definitive Text of "Junk" by William S. Burroughs
Howl and Other Poems (City Lights Pocket Poets, No. 4) by Allen Ginsberg
Apocalypse Culture by Adam Parfrey
Wuthering Heights (Penguin Classics) by Emily Brontë
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
Moravagine (New York Review Books Classics) by Blaise Cendrars
Against Interpretation: And Other Essays by Susan Sontag
La-Bas (Down There) by Joris K. Huysmans
Maybe
Teatro Grottesco by Thomas Ligotti
Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami
The Tunnel by William H. Gass
The Sound and the Fury: The Corrected Text with Faulkner's Appendix (Modern Library 100 Best Novels)
The Elementary Particles by Michel Houellebecq
Three Novels: Molloy, Malone Dies, The Unnamable by Samuel Beckett
Maldoror: (Les Chants de Maldoror) (New Directions Paperbook) by Comte de Lautreamont
Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche
On the Genealogy of Morals and Ecce Homo by Friedrich Nietzsche
The Gay Science (the Joyful Wisdom) (Digireads.com Classic) by Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
The Birth of Tragedy (Dover Thrift Editions) by Friedrich Nietzsche
Technological Slavery: The Collected Writings of Theodore J. Kaczynski, a.k.a. "The Unabomber"
Re/Search: William S. Burroughs, Brion Gysin, Throbbing Gristle by V. Vale
Seven Dada Manifestos and Lampisteries by Tristan Tzara
or add your own suggestion.
bumps for Geneaology
how much are books where you live? $120 for me means 6 books
>>8143643
Amazon. There's book stores in my area but I don't have a car, and even if I did I don't think I'd feel comfortable driving all the way through the city to get to the store on the other side of town, it's a huge trek.
It's summer. Nothing more wonderful and enriching than reading in nature.
My recommendations,
Suttree by Cormac McCarthy
Call of the Wild by Jack London
Evangeline by H.W. Longfellow
Essays by Thoreau
I don't read much anymore and I hope to change that this summer.
Share your /out/lit/ recommendations!
Growth of the soil by knut hamsun.
Its the most /out/ book of all time, although it is extremely boring for large stretches.
>>8143548
Ah yes! One of the greatest. Not boring at all.
>>8143538
Kerouac
Thoreau
Meditations (kinda sorta)
Musashi by Yoshikawa
Why do people associate being able to read very quickly, and high intelligence?
I work with a girl who is arguably smart, but she does, and says, really stupid things all the time.
She has no basic common sense skills whatsoever, yet she told me she read an 850 page book in two hours....
>>8143380
She lied or she skimmed and didn't retain. Or you've met some sort of super genius who's really saying a whole bunch of super smart things you just can't keep up with.
>>8143380
>I work with a girl who is arguably smart, but she does, and says, really stupid things all the time
maybe you think she does and says stupid things because you are the stupid one there? it happens pretty often
>>8143498
No.....
She couldn't figure out how to make a pedometer work. There was a paper tab that disconnected the battery from the device, so the battery could keep it's charge. She could not figure this out.
She also thinks Jane Austen is a great writer.
MOAR like this.
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Also, attach a brief reason as to why to read (attention spans come and go.)
P.S. No bit-tier Camus works... this is his only acceptable book
Can you elaborate on why this work is better than his others? I've started getting into him recently and would like some references as to why one work over another.
Stylistically it's his best work. On every other level The Plague exceeds it.
>>8143323
I can, but won't.
In The Fall is the best plot, and dialog worth keeping. You can go through your Camus-fix, but you wont find a better book by him.
This is not what this thread was about
Is Lord Henry the most based man ever?
>>8143272
dude hedonism lmao
you got a nice photo of virginia woolf right there
>>8143272
No, Lord Henry was a fraud.
God I fucking hate myself for falling for this meme ass series. The first three were entertaining and I ran through them fast but this motherfucker right here. This piece of shit is straight up torture. I'd rather read a text book backwards than finish this meandering mess of a book.
Martin's editor should be shot.
Cersei's chapters are great though. The most comedic part of the whole series.
>>8143217
Yeah, the reason this one sucks ass is because we don't hear from any characters we care about, it's just about random, unimportant, pretty shitty characters. Especially Hotah.
>>8143217
SUNSET
What is the draw of vonnegut? I have had slaughter house five on my shelf for years, and I never got very far.
I have read Nabokov like Lolita, Pnin and Pale Fire and the elements of sick irony and satire were obvious and still held meaning today.
What am I missing about vonnegut?
>>8143162
He's witty. Cynical, but in a kind of cheesy way. His characters all have hearts. Even the antagonists. He can be dark, but exclusively with a message. Very grandpa-ish. Cozy, idealistic, purple, and sad-but-optimistic. Like Bradbury.
His books are worth reading, but I wouldn't take them as seriously as Nobokov or any classic lit for that matter
>>8143171
hmmmm
So basically Lolita set my "satire of 20th century america" bar too high with its 100% selfish, human, and evil characters.
Whats with all this space aliens from word salad planets stuff?
>>8143162
He is easy to read. Reading him requires little effort. Reading him still gives an impression of depth. You may not find him as easy to read in a certain case. That certain case is one in which you are used to good writing. Under that certain case, you also no longer get the impression that his writing creates depth. This might happen even if you like penis jokes.
Is it still worth it to major in English/Creative Writing if I want to become a fiction writer? For context, I'm planning to double major in Music (which is non negotiable) and something humanities related, but I want to make sure that I pursue the right path to become a writer. Would it be more beneficial to use the time reading and writing on my own, or majoring in philosophy to help better my "ideas"? I've heard a lot of crap about English as a major, and want to spend my time as efficiently as possible, so I'm a little reluctant about fully committing to it. What do you semen demons think?
think about how many writers you've read that attended creative writing classes
i will guess: 0
>>8142997
>Would it be more beneficial to use the time majoring in philosophy to help better my "ideas"?
Of course fucking yes.
>>8142997
>Would it be more beneficial to use the time reading and writing on my own?
Of course fucking yes.
A good literature major would be great to have, but judging by the stories there literally is no such thing in the US, and possibly even abroad.
>>8142997
Oh yeah, and the creative writing part of your question, obviously the answer was "no"
Drunkposter here. I finally finished it. Great book.
Did the ending remind anyone else of the way Gravity's Rainbow ended? It wasn't exactly the same, but there were certain similarities
>>8142937
That cover is fucking hideous.
>>8142937
which did u like better overall lad? GR or recognitions
have u red the tunnel by gassman? very good buk if u like rekognitzion and gravitei rabou
