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boring dreck for women

saw it at the thrift store yesterday for .50$ and decided to leave empty handed instead.

>>8137859
It's on my reading list, I've heard good things.
>coming to /lit/ to validate literary tastes
yeah don't do that

387 so far

>>8137820
lol.

Read about 500 so far. ugh, it's just my passion. I'm living in a cabin btw guys, incase you were interested.

I DON'T KNOW

I'M NOT GAY


HERO IS FIT AS FUCK BUT BEATRICE BTFO HER FOR THAT QUICK WIT

I haven't gone to barnes and nobles lately, i'm trying to read other authors, sorry about that.

>>8137685
His prose style is like Poe on bath salts. I think it is fair to call it 'bad'.

>>8137685
He's good. In tailoring his own genre, he became its primary example and his oft-criticized writing style is crucial to the genre's weird atmosphere. You cannot call him a bad writer, for what he predominately wrote. He struggled with dialogue, but he knew that and rarely ever attempted it. Nevertheless, his influence during his lifetime and beyond it was and is vast. What more can be said of the man?

>>8137631
which of your pleb idols was dismissed, anon?

>>8137638
Do you really think I'd venture an opinion? And I came here looking for recommendations.

It's 4chan, I'm not sure what you expect. Every now and then there are some really good discussions, but yeah, most of it is filler where we throw around our memes mindlessly.

>Does everyone here just share the same opinions

pretty much. post something that goes against the general board culture without backing it up with thoughtful insight and the thread will be shit. Theres a difference between a thread that says "Why do you virgins dismiss female authors" and one that brings up an interesting point about say, Virginia Woolf's work. Sure some of these specific threads will die off, but every once in a while they strike gold.

>>8137425
Read Tolstoy.

>>8137425
Depressing lit does not help at all. And people need to stop perpetrating this meme. If you truly want to get better, I hate to say it, but you have to do all the things that mom told you to do. Talk to someone, meet people, hang out in a nice environment, live a healthy lifestyle. Meds in my experience are hit or miss, and kind of dangerous. Depressing lit is helpful sometimes, when it allows you to realize that you're not the only one in the entire universe who thinks this way, and it helps you to validate your experiences and have a few moments of cathartic bitterness and spite against the world, adds some aesthetic to your suffering, which helps. But this is a never ending rabbit hole. You will not get better, but will instead continue to wallow deeper and deeper in your suffering, making your problems more and more complex and more and more inescapable, until you realize it may be too late. Depressing lit is some of the best literature, definitely, but if you really want to escape depression, it's probably not the best idea to immerse yourself in it.

>>8137425

Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning
Dr. David Burns, Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy (more or less CBT [Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy] in book form; not that I'm an advocate of eliminating therapy or medication if they're necessary, but this is solid and not typical empty self-help)

For fiction, I'll mention Siddhartha and hasten the backlash against that title.

Can French people be plebs?

What did you read so far?

>>8137337
Léon Bloy - Le désespéré
L.F Céline - Mort à Credit
Pierre Drieu La Rochelle - Le Feu follet
Honoré de Balzac - Le Père Goriot
Gustave Flaubert - L’Éducation Sentimentale

>>8137031
How is middle school, kiddo?

>>8137035
Really easy by the way.

>>8137035
>James Joyce
>middle school

I was reading goosebumps then, nigga

>>8136812
>>8136855
Requesting aramini or another wolfe fan for this

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One thing, as a farmer, that bothers me. Is the lack of disturbance towards the concept of agriculture in novels. Seriously, it's like nobody considers it. Especially given how little of a choice there was in the far past towards our social caste and unwillingness. It's terrible social horror shit. It's dirty, dehumanizing, it fucks up what you look like to others forever. The effort starts bending your spine. It's just, awful through and through with some positive elements.

But I don't like how it isn't explored, demeaning and dehumanizing labor we have no choice but to be put through is a concept I don't that's ever been handeled well or properly. Maybe it's me, it's a deep seated dissapointment of not breaking the family tradition's mold, that king's desires for cannon fodder in the past, or just the need to nourish an overpopulated planet, override our own autonomy and emotions towards others, making you feel like they don't see in you what you see in them.

I don't know what I'm saying. I just wish farmers weren't constantly written as "Poor people! That cultivate crops!", and not facing the dirty wirty disturbing bullshit dealt with is. Or how we're forced into believing its acceptable to look down on people as "plebs" when the aforementioned are, for some people, and for many people, vital sources of aliments. This was even more prevalent in the past I'm assuming given the feudal system.

>>8136906
Dorcas is a woman, her husband is the man.
Both Sev and Dorcas are resurrected by the Claw, which Severian doesn't know he has.

my friend said he'd loan me his infinite jest

my stepmom just loaned me an ian mcewan book and the liars club' by mary karr

i'm tryna read some iris murdoch and sometimes a great notion by ken kesey

always looking to read more kerouac

there's so much gertrude stein i haven't read

and i've been on a shakespeare bender.

gonna see where my whimsy takes me m8

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>>8136616
Wow anon you seemed to be very distracted.

>Good luck!

>>8136736
the post-postmodern adhd is real, but thank you anon

Nah he's a charlatan. Schop was right. Hegel is bullshit.

>>8136441
nigga keeps talking about spirit and ideas and i'm having a hard time totally understanding his definitions of these things because i'm a dumbass and decided to start here with hegel because i like history and thought the premise of the work sounded interesting

>>8136433
Not necessarily. Hegel's writings on history are pretty digestible if you have basic knowledge of Idealism and a vague sense of what Hegel's on about. Much, much more digestible than the Phenomenology, which is notoriously obscure and which even Hegel said was a product of the time in his life that he wrote it. It's still ideal to read the Phenomenology, but I sincerely doubt anyone reads it before skimming over Hegel's other stuff. The Introduction to Phil. of History is most commonly given as an accessible intro to him, I think, actually.

Blood Meridian sure spooked me the judge hid in the Jakes and he force-fed the kid tortillas

Parts of the Sound & The Fury disturbed me just like the scene with Jason acting like he'll let Caddy see her baby and then he takes money just to drive right past her

Threw my book at the wall.

Also The Story of the Eye was pretty fucked up, but the disgusting shit was so constant it was practically boring by the end to me

my diary desu lad senpai

what are those books on the shelf>>8135890

>>8135890
Do you worry about leaving your many friends and girlfriend behind?

>>8135892
I have neither and I think you know that.

>>8135891
Birthday cards for my relative.

Forgive them Lord

>>8134127
The people who made that book know exactly what they do, though.

>>8134137
I know, that's why I left the second part out.

(cont.)

Okay, so I'm actually not looking to detach my mind. I just said that because I was trying to put words to a concept inside my head which isn't really a concept. I actually think that I am just searching for something that gives me the confidence to live, and feel as though I have some grasp on how I am experiencing reality, or the inverse. I dunno. I don't mean that I want to die or something. Do you ever feel that the more words you attach to something the less meaning it has? That bottle of whisky right next to me is tantalizing. It's a beautiful jar of irish whisky, made of ceramic I think, or something. It's beautiful. The thought of swallowing it is tantalizing. I wouldn't really do that for no reason though, it's not like I crave it. I just imagine myself drinking it, but I know that all the pleasures in life are measured. At the risk of sounding like a pessimist, I just wanted to say that I'm not even sure I really know what pessimism means. You don't care, your probably an asshole. That's sort of what I've come to expect of people on this website. I've never really been able to relate to people. I relate to sun ra, and music, I don't listen to sun ra all the time, but they came up next in my music library on my computer. I relate more to throbbing gristle, not as if that would really pertain to you. I don't think that I'm really much of a human being in your eyes, but then again what is anyone in anyone's eyes? Did that sound horribly contrived? I did that on purpose, to fuck with you. You assume you know something just because you've made a superficial "conclusion". Consider this, a conclusion isn't a conclusion.

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>>8134013
>>8134014

What does it really mean to feel whole lit? Someone who's totally disconnected is just as whole as someone who isn't. It doesn't really matter what my senses come to, but in so realizing that it may lead me to feel a sort of emptiness. The brain searching for a chemical reaction in which it can tell itself again assuredly that there's sort sort of order. I know this notion is false and I reject it, I know that in life it's the pursuit of aesthetic that is what really drives someone to live. I wish I could say I heard that from some book, I'm probably not even describing in words that would be adequate what someone else before me has already tried to say, in fact I don't think I really know what I'm saying at all.

I degrade myself a lot but it's hard for me to tell in this life what isn't really worth degrading myself over for. I tried one time to reach the height of my consciousness, but people just told me that I was going crazy, they told me that I was crossing over into another place where I wasn't supposed to go. Okay they didn't really tell me that literally, but I was there and I felt that I was on the brink of something, but I think now a days I would chalk up the whole experience to the fact that I think I was just drinking too much coffee at the time. The same sort of fleeting experience may come to you, unappreciated, because really why should experiences be relegated, the ones that are truly worth appreciating, to being appreciated. I don't think that there's a whole lot of things that one may appreciate, because really to relegate what you should and shouldn't appreciate seems arbitrary. You may change what you appreciate depending on some arbitrary circumstance and become and optimist or a pessimist, it really makes no difference, it's all the same.

Faced with this absolute nothingness attached to meaning, I wish that I could somehow detach myself from meaning. I think that that's what I was trying to say earlier, is that I want to detach my mind from meaning because meaning robs things of their value. Once you know the meaning of something you've reached the end, to which there was no beginning.

>>8133033
>name of the wind

>>8133078
>He who smelt it

>>8133078
Yep, that's the one! One of the most immersive books I've ever read. You recognize it so I assume you've read it, what did you think of it?