Is House Of Leaves the worst thing to happen to literature?
>>7660549
is that real
No, the burning of the library of Alexandria was.
>>7660583
In comparison to that, I would argue that House Of Leaves is still worse.
Just started reading this. The narrator/commentator is supposed to be an asshole right? Or if not an asshole, he's seriously delusional. Every line in the poem is strung back to him and his home country and stories he told the poet
just finish it
i would flame you for posting a shitty thread but at least it's not a dfw/pynchon thread so whatever.
i feel like this thread is bait, if not, yea gee you're onto something anon
tips for next time: don't shitpost, finish the book first, even if you're not trying to shitpost you are
the Zembla narrative is so horrible and hamfisted I do not understand why people like this book
I just bought an autographed copy of The Tunnel. What can I expect?
>>7658097
An autograph.
>>7658097
The Tunnel
Has my idea potential?:
A book where an important government official in a dystopian future finds out that is daughter is dying of a supposedly "incurable" disease. He knows that the government has a cure, but he's not high ranking or well-liked enough to get it.
The situation ends with him joining forces with several fugitives wanted by the government and they set out to find the cure and discredit the government.
There's a general malaise in society because the people are doped up and just accept everything they hear from the government as truth. The disease that afflicts the man's daughter is one that's essentially gone unchecked for decades since it's effectively stopped society from becoming overpopulated, which is why the cure isn't widespread.
Anyhow, the group is convinced that getting the truth out will wake the people from their malaise and after an arduous struggle they finally manage to get some documents out there which raises society's suspicion for its government.
With the people's suspicions awakened (and despite two of the four members of the group dying), the remaining two people, the man and his possible love interest set out to find the cure. After a considerable amount of digging they the secret lab where the cure is supposedly kept. The pair covertly enter the lab, find the cure, and find the unpleasant truth. The government was responsible for concocting the disease in the first place (the proof is in the form of lab videos, tests, etc). It is then that they are discovered. The man barely escapes and the woman with him is killed. The man resolves to cure his daughter and reveal the truth to the world. On his way to the hospital with the cure a homeless vagrant mugs and then shoots him. The man dies, the vial with the cure shatters, and the documents are thrown away (the vagrant rifled through the man's belongings).
I think most of what I'd write would have an ending where everything that happened was for nothing.
>>7661043
>dystopian future
no, sorry
>>7661043
did johny use her and why woyld he hurt her.....
>>7661043
This sounds like 1984 with a ticking clock element desu.
Just bought this on a recommendation from a friend. Am I in for something good?
Great series, I highly recommend it. The first book is a bit tough getting into because of almost zero exposition. It all seems to be unrelated threads, but they come together in a big way at a garden party.
Second book is way better, we get to see more of the world and see some truly epi suffering on the chain of dogs, which plays out like the Trail Of Tears from our own US history. Ery touching and passionate the whole thing.
>>7661010
Thank you friend.
>>7660955
Book 1 isn't very good. People try to justify it as being 'in media res' or some shit, but it's just a cover for shitty storytelling. It's also way too fucking long.
Book 2 is pretty good. Unlike the first book, I can actually give a shit about a lot of what's happening, and the second half of the book is really entertaining. Fantastic climax. Unfortunately it's way too fucking long.
Book 3 is the most entertaining of the ones that I've read. Pretty good world building while at the same time giving us action. Climax is really goddamn fun even if it's a bit over the top. Unfortunately it's way too fucking long, and there are endless dream sequences from one character who just whines the whole fucking time. Completely ruins the pacing of the book whenever she shows up. Did I mention it was too fucking long?
Book 4 is an act of literary blue-balls. It's all building up to a great battle, but after a million pages of dumbasses walking around in a fucking desert, it all ends in like 5 pages. Worldbuilding has slowed at this point, and we follow characters that are simply not as interesting as those in other parts of the world. It's also way too fucking long, especially considering how quickly all the plot points are cast aside for later books. Literary blue balls.
Was so angry I've yet to pick up the next book.
What are the best DFW novels that aren't IJ ?
>>7660672
There are only two DFW novels that aren't IJ.
Just read oblivion and his essays. Rest is trash. IJ should be edited to about 300 pages.
>>7660687
>IJ should be edited to about 300 pages
Well memed XD
>mfw i finally begin to browse 4chan for the prose
>>7660386
sometimes I think about winning those lotto tickets and buying me some
https://clyp.it/2ff22f1w
>not browsing 4chan for the characters
>implying there's an MC as nuanced as Anonymous
>>7660565
>tfw this is the MC who writes this
I've confessed to my family that I want to be an author but I've got no idea how to write.
Please help.
Confess to your family that you're an idiot who's more concerned with your idea of what an "author" is than what it actually means.
You read.
>>7656856
i don't get it.
why do you want to be an author if you've never written before? you know that's like, the job right? how do you even know that you'll like it?
I write 4 hours a day. minimum. and i'm still nowhere.
Has anyone else read Elliot Rodger's manifesto?
Honestly, I thought it was a fun read. It is interesting to have a direct portal into the mind of a psychopath.
Many laugh-out-loud moments. I laughed when I read of his self-prescribed "superior memory" in the second paragraph, but it quickly becomes apparent that his memory really is quite extraordinary, or he's just lying, or my own memory is terrible.
Stefan Molyneux insinuates that he was neglected as a child and poorly raised, thrust into new environments without preparation, and generally ignored. Was Elliot's life really that bad? is Stefan projecting?
How much of it was truthful?
Why did he decide to let his step-mother and brother live?
http://abclocal.go.com/three/kabc/kabc/My-Twisted-World.pdf
He wasn't a psychopath, just a deluded, unempathic loser who externalised his anger.
>>7660346
Idk but based Stefan is always correct
>>7660346
It was pretty nihilistic but it had a wicked sense of humor
Hey /lit/
I'm in English class right now, doing some stupid group project where we have to write a story using elements of Gothic fiction.
Obviously I have no idea of giving any actual effort, so let's see what things I can put in to make our story true cancer. Dubs decides a line/character/concept that I add.
Fuggenstein
>>7660050
Do you enjoy putting in zero effort? Woo them
>>7660070
This is a class that I was required to take and the semester ends in May. Of course I don't care.
is this translation ok?
not even close; mandelbaum's translation is horrendous and completely distorts the authors intentions
>translations
>>7658717
who would you suggest
r8 Martin Shkreli's bookshelf senpai
>Ayn Rand cliffnotes
>>7658332
What a meme lord. Do you think he browses /lit/
>>7658332
>Pop Science
>Science Fiction
>Undergraduate Study Guides
>Wine For Dummies
Turbo Pleb
I have to write a 5 page marxist perspective paper on Oliver Twist
>inb4 underage
I'm 18, seniorfag
Pls help, I have 40 in the class right now. It's not even AP english, my teacher is just completely out of touch with reality.
I've completed one page, and I'm fucking out of ideas.
>>7658006
Wow, that's some genuinely terrible writing. Have fun with that 40, bud: you sure earned it.
>>7658006
here an idea, maybe read some marx instead of bitching here
its fucking high school m8. if the relationship between marx' philosophies and oliver twist wasnt obvious, they wouldnt have you do it
>fell for the /sci/ "english is a pushover maymay."
>took AP Literature senior year
>didn't graduate
>college that I was looking forward to dropped me like a hot potato
Fuck my life up tbqh familia
Prince Myshkin
>>7656231
Jean ValJean
>>7656236
My thoughts exactly
Was it autism?
>>7660639
Going to say none and done on this stillbirth of a thread.
Partly
is it autistic to be British?
yes, yes it is
![Elliot-Rodger[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XRMK3wK.jpg "Elliot-Rodger[1]")
