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For someone completely new to this board, name 3 books that you wish they would have read before joining.
the sticky
>>8041524
Ulysses, Infinite Jest, Gravity's Rainbow
Do it for the memes
>>8041539
>Ulysses
Does anyone actually understand that book in all of its complexity? Did Joyce even understand it?
Lawrence frequently uses the semicolon. thoughts?
anyone who uses a semicolon should be put to death
>>8041310
Sounds like he wanted to show he went to college :^)
Lots of writers use semicolons, OP.
> There's no great American novel, they're all severely flawed.
Honestly all the Ameri-hate just comes from the fact we have a vastly different ideology than the rest of the world.
>>8041291
I feel like this is an objectively wrong statement. You can't speak in absolutes when discussing something as subjective as literature, because everyone's opinions are different. But to say that in the last two hundred or so years, no American novel was published that held any merit is a tall order.
There are several traditional, or "meme" answers, like The Great Gatsby, Of Mice and Men, and The Catcher in the Rye. You may disagree with them , but the sheer amount of people who are familiar with these works show their impact on American literature, and indeed literature as a whole.
At the end of the day, a novel doesn't necessarily need to have Byzantine circumstances and Olympian themes to be discussed in a thousand years. To be "great" has to be read by a lot of people. Thats it.
You can't deny, Americans have produced some of the most popular pieces of fiction.
>>8041291
>moby dick
Does anyone have any more plot diagrams like this for books ? Any book is fine but it'd be cool to see other non-linear ones
As nonlinear as it gets.
>>8041169
What the hell man. I read that book cover to cover, endnotes included, and none of those "Post-Ending" things happened apart from the digging (which I thought was a dream). Was I just not paying attention?
Ayo /lit/ what's more important: the ritual or the myth?
Are myths only ad hoc ideological contexts for the development of collective rituals in which individual tensions can be collectively released in a socially acceptable way? Or are rituals only a way to collectively validate a belief system which is needed by each individual due to an essentialy human causal mentality?
I don't expect /his/ to give me a satisfactory answer so I ask yall.
>>8041159
Why must either of these imply a reduction of the other category when they don't conflict?
>>8041175
I mean what goes first?I also think there's harmony between those two functions and institutions, but I want to hear some more opinions
>>8041159
Myths goes first. The reason: Without the phantasm of myth all rituals are obviously pointless and so on and so on...
I am going off to college soon enough and I don't find enjoyment or interest in anything other than literature, but it seems like there are few careers in that other than teaching. Are there any majors for fans of literature, particularly the classics? Maybe a major in which I get to study literature at the very least. Thanks for any advice.
>>8041031
Get a real job, you waste of oxygen.
>>8041041
That's what I'm trying to do!
>>8041031
First off, yes you can study literature or classics. Google that shit
Here's the advice part. Go out and experience more of life, I guarantee you that you will find other subjects to pursue. You're a kid still, don't limit your horizons
>b-but I have experienced a lot and I do know that Literature is my one source of enjoyment/purpose
You haven't. You define yourself as a literature-person and limit your own horizons to protect your self image. The fact that literature is your thing in the first place is a red flag for not having lived a full life- the stereotypes are often true, the kids I knew who read literature rarely had broad horizons.
Its not impossible that literature is what's right for you, but it would be best if you spend the next year, year and a half doing as much different stuff as possible. This is the time to use GE's, extra-curriculars, and personal exploration to give yourself as many options as possible.
Or just major in Literature, it will be way easier and demand almost no personal growth
Any good works on pic related?
>>8040763
bostrom ("human enhancement") is not an idiot... everybody else seems to be one for some reason, but it's not really my particular interest
When we become transhuman does this mean gender will finally be destroyed?
Name the finest books on ancient and classical history
All of it is shit from retards. People in those days were real dumbasses, I'll tell ya.
>>8040722
Unlike the fine specimens of today such as yourself, anon.
>>8040838
No, you.
Which philosophers/authors had the most patrician views on suicide?
I know of Camus, as does everyone else who has graduated high school.
pic unrelated
Philipp Mainländer
>>8040719
You could've gone on to say something other than just a name... but thanks
>>8040738
You want his phone number or something?
If you haven't studied this book you will never be a writer.
dfw lives?
But I'm writer.
>>8041277
No you just think you're a writer
I haven't been to /lit/ in awhile do you anons still post bookshelves for discussion? If so then 1/? since I'm taking these up close for clarity.
2/? Other top shelf (literally) stuff.
3/? Douchey philosophy books. And some Burroughs.
4/? Degenerate DeSade and Proust
What was his fucking problem?
no spegetii
>>8040217
Forgot to set his alarm.
Hey was old and grumpy
Astrid Lindgren was one of the most sloppy and inconsistent authors ever. Allowing children to read her crap or read it for them is simply child abuse.
it's not tolerant to say such things about a woman
>not raising your kids to be independent pirate captains who get the neighbour kids to read to them
it's like you don't want better for their lives than you had
>>8040120
True. Tolerance is shutting up about wrongs. Intolerance is speaking up about wrongs.
Thoughts? Relate?
Like dreams,
Wasted hours are blurs.
Hours.
Hours like sand through a sieve,
Or leaves in autumn,
Fall to the ground
And are rendered useless.
No use trying to pick it all up.
It’s impossible, anyway.
Too many.
Too many hours,
Wasted.
Looking back at them wasted,
Looking down at the ground,
Feeling the headache of intoxication,
Looking back at the paces taken,
Watching it all blur into a solid wall,
Notice skin.
Notice it wilt and fold.
Notice the blur of a past.
Notice it plague the future.
Notice it all come together.
Watch as dreams of a chocolate death
Begin to appear hallucinated.
Notice how he hasn’t moved at all, but he knows very well.
Watch as the blurry illusion approaches him.
Watch as he catches the hint...
Watch as he laughs as if he hadn’t anticipated it from the start.
Observe.
He waits in the mist.
The hours wasted begin to slow behind him.
He accepts that there are too many.
He knows he can’t pick them all up.
The fog before him grows near.
He welcomes it.
He does so with a vast emptiness.
Emptiness as state of mind.
He’s felt this ever since ‘16.
Every day he’d just pour sand into his sieve.
Every night he noticed how much had fallen.
He’d rest the lights and he felt this feeling.
He woke up, sat in class, and fallen asleep in this state.
He was bored.
Internally, out, and all around,
Bored.
There was no great relief because it had all blurred.
Like dreams,
They seem to fog up.
And he had felt this as he watched himself here.
He feels this as the mist engulfs him: bored.
He had felt this way throughout the dream of traveling to chocolate deaths: indifferent.
And now he feels it the same way as he leaves,
As he did writing this.
>>8040105
op here
this was supposed to be in the post
reminds me of something you'd see on /r/creepy
;_;
>>8039892
Idris Elba is a good actor and ironically you faggots throwing up a stink are the niggers.
>>8039904
Casting a black man destroys the storyline. There is no reason to do it other than to appear progressive. It ruins the story and I won't be seeing it.
>>8039913
Or because Idris Elba is a good actor and would do the character justice whether he's white or not? Movies fuck up a lot of things when it comes to books.
