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How many of you fellows like poetry? I VERY rarely see a poetry board anywhere. Let's post poetry our favorite poems.
>I was angry with my friend;
>I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
>I was angry with my foe:
>I told it not, my wrath did grow.
>And I waterd it in fears,
>Night & morning with my tears:
>And I sunned it with smiles,
>And with soft deceitful wiles.
>And it grew both day and night.
>Till it bore an apple bright.
>And my foe beheld it shine,
>And he knew that it was mine.
>And into my garden stole,
>When the night had veiled the pole;
>In the morning glad I see;
>My foe outstretched beneath the tree.
>>8047527
Never really got into poetry that much. Blue Bird by Bukowski really resonates with me though.
>there's a bluebird in my heart that
>wants to get out
>but I'm too tough for him,
>I say, stay in there, I'm not going
>to let anybody see
>you.
>there's a bluebird in my heart that
>wants to get out
>but I pour whiskey on him and inhale
>cigarette smoke
>and the whores and the bartenders
>and the grocery clerks
>never know that
>he's
>in there.
>there's a bluebird in my heart that
>wants to get out
>but I'm too tough for him,
>I say,
>stay down, do you want to mess
>me up?
>you want to screw up the
>works?
>you want to blow my book sales in
>Europe?
>there's a bluebird in my heart that
>wants to get out
>but I'm too clever, I only let him out
>at night sometimes
>when everybody's asleep.
>I say, I know that you're there,
>so don't be
>sad.
>then I put him back,
>but he's singing a little
>in there, I haven't quite let him
>die
>and we sleep together like
>that
>with our
>secret pact
>and it's nice enough to
>make a man
>weep, but I don't
>weep, do
>you?
>>8047527
What are the best poetry anthologies or compilations? In high school I really like Dickinson
>>8047652
what an upstuck asshole
>imm too cool for feelingss im a manly man that never cries and drink and smoke himself to death cause that's what man do
I just found out that I identify fully with a satirical character. Kill me
>>8047520
>satirical
>>8047520
You're meant to identify with him, to feel his own sense of patheticness, I wouldn't share a drink with anyone who doesn't see much of himself in the Underground Man
Apparently the protagonist was based off of a parodic exaggeration of the Superfluous Man and in specific the central character of Chernyshevsky's What Is To Be Done
*finishes philosophy*
>>8047476
evolas "esoteric traditionalism" would have gotten him laughed at as a fedora tipping man babby well before the french revolution
>>8047476
More like finishes cocks
>>8047478
Well-born, not of managerial bourgeoisie races like jews, britons, saxons/thuringians
ITT we post spooks that we think help us and other posters tell us why they are bad for us.
>the social contract
>>8047467
>love
>>8047467
>OP is straight
>>8047467
>Feeling great pride in my Race, the White Race
Do you read a book a day?
No. I have failed you Tai. And for that I am sorry.
2 busy driving my lamborghini desu senpai
I bang an OP's mom a day.
>spend 10 years avoiding Derrida because I think he's some final boss of philosophy
>decide to read up on him this week on a whim
>he was a literal meme retard
>Of Grammatology was B+ at best, same shit done by a dozen other guys in the 20th century except they actually worked out their ideas instead of just being a trendy celebrity with them
>The Truth in Painting is exact same thing, just read Barthes and ten other guys instead
>only a trendy celebrity because horrendous parody-of-themselves-tier philosophers like Zizek, Deleuze, Debord, Lacoue-Labarthe greased the wheels for him to be famous
>would have been nobody if (also a shit hack totally derivative of Saussure fuckup moron) Levi-Strauss hadn't launched him to fame while at the peak of his own fame
>these famous post-structuralists didn't even understand him, even HE thought they didn't understand him
>unpleasant as fuck, just a weird dude who acquired celebrity status
>got mad at people constantly for not understanding his "deconstruction", kept getting mad at interviewers all the time
>admittedly even he, himself, didn't understand deconstruction
>every coverage of his """""""""ideas"""""""" is 90% composed of WASN'T HE QUIRKY???
>SO QUIRKY!!!!
>surrounded by yes-man morons (opinionless voids) everywhere
>respectable publishers at the time and French clubs of philosophy sucking his dick all the time
>even though no one understood him and only because of his """"""ECCENTRIC""""""" personality they'd scribble down "His ideas come to us as if by revelation. He is a divine god and I want to suck his cock."
>literally a meme
>literally a retard
>just the shitty Heidegger of a bygone generation
Alright, no more joking around. Continental philosophy people are fucking morons. Kant, Lacan, Foucault, I kept forgiving and forgiving and forgiving you people for worshiping actual autistic children like these fucks, thinking Derrida was going to be some top secret French spice like Saussure 2 Electric Boogaloo. And it's just more shit. You are actually all morons.
This isn't banter. If you are a continental philosopher, or a fan of any continental philosopher, YOU are a MORON.
u gon do dis erryda?
>>8047362
>Zizek, Deleuze, Debord, Lacoue-Labarthe
Could have been a good pasta but all these people hate Derrida, especially Deleuze
This is pasta from Wittgenstein, no?
Is there good fiction featuring pro wrestling?
there's not a good anything featuring pro wrestling
>>8047153
The Greeks.
Who is interested in joining a /lit/ WhatsApp group?
I don't know about you but having to type a capcha for every post gets old after a few years, come join us, we are all about having serious philosophical discussion with a bit of memeing here and there.
If you're interested send your number to this email.
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>>8047147
>@cock.lu
Can't take you seriously.
>>8047147
First open a discord group, then open a tinychat group, then open a whatsapp group, then NOBODY posts on lit, the only bastion of barely intelligent online discussion, and the lit community is forever separated into three or four chat groups.
And now ironyfags will say "lmao good riddance, like I give a shit if I get separated from you retards who only make John Green threads and DFWinterview.jpg threads and >muh threads".
And that is how they win. I don't know who they are, but this is their agenda. I am not even fucking joking.
What do you think about Sherman? I've never read his novels but I'm planning to this summer because he's a friend of the family. What are your thoughts?
>>8046982
I enjoyed it enough, but it's not really 'literature'
>>8047002
>but it's not really 'literature'
>>8046982
isn't that Mr. The Evil White Man Made Me Do It from the minority sympathy poetry thing back then?
For what purpose?
>>8046968
For the same purpose as this.
>>8046968
I haven't read the book or watched the movie, but dumb shit like this is only worth experiencing in movie form for shits and giggles. Spending more than two hours on something like this isn't worth it.
>>8046968
"Please buy more books...? Please get interested in reading? Please? We're desperate. We'll try anything. Please? Just pick up a book. Maybe pick up a book? Come on, pick up a book...Please?!"
>Thus, the premise of the postdialectic paradigm of expression suggests that
narrativity serves to oppress the proletariat. The subject is interpolated into
a cultural libertarianism that includes truth as a totality.
It doesn't make any sense.
Continental philosophy BTFO
>Your search - "Thus, the premise of the postdialectic paradigm of expression suggests that narrativity ... - did not match any documents.
>>8046844
It's randomly generated.
I attempted to fix the "Resume with the Romans" chart that's been getting posted around here lately, but I don't know what font is being used here, can anyone tell me?
Replace the Humphries Ovid with Melville
Also, I'd suggest asking >>>/wsr/
>>8046718
I'm the guy who rabidly denounces the original Roman chart on every possible occasion as being dogshit, and while I still don't think yours is perfect, you have really nicely improved it.
My only comments (and it's up to you as the one actually working on the chart whether or not to change anything) are:
* Some more content on the Republic. At the very least a book on the punic wars, which would help encapsulate the morality of the Republic while telling some of its greatest stories and introducing some of Rome's greatest heroes (and villains!) and shedding light on the various events (fall of Macedon, fall of Antiochus, destruction of Carthage and Corinth) which different writers heralded as harbingers of decline of the state. To us, it's easy to see all Rome as just Rome, but to citizens of the empire, the republic was already this ancient, lost state with truer virtue and more impressive morality. That's an important distinction to understand when reading all the (undeniably important) content from the empire. A selection of Polybius would be ideal (Penguin offers basically an abridged selection of his whole history, while Oxford's Polybius is only 7 out of 40 books, although in their entirety); Livy's books on the 2nd punic war, while more exciting (would definitely recommend them for anyone with the time!), have far narrower scope, although any decent intro will fill you in a bit.
*Include Plutarch (if only some of his Roman Lives), possibly in place of Josephus; the jewish events were a speck on the empire's radar. Also Plutarch is just so well known that it's a shame to gloss over him. Maybe at least point to his Moralia alongside suggesting Plotinus, at least to let people know those essays exist.
*Maybe include Sallust. He's brief, fun, covers largely ignored events of the late republic, and is an excellent commentator on the moral decline I mentioned above, especially given that he writes in the dying days of the republic.
All in all, great work; this is much better than the first chart. I hesitated to make my own since I'm not done with Roman primary sources, and so will limit myself to commenting on your efforts instead :)
Hope you'll consider my suggestions, but either way, well done!
>>8046915
>I'm the guy who rabidly denounces the original Roman chart on every possible occasion as being dogshit, and while I still don't think yours is perfect, you have really nicely improved it.
Thank you.
> Some more content on the Republic. At the very least a book on the punic wars,
Fair enough, I'll definitely be considering that.
>A selection of Polybius would be ideal (Penguin offers basically an abridged selection of his whole history, while Oxford's Polybius is only 7 out of 40 books, although in their entirety)
It shall be fucking done. Thank you for actually recommending a specific edition for once, instead of just saying "read some shit by this guy."
>Livy's books on the 2nd punic war
Well, Livy's entire history of Rome (or the surviving parts anyway), are already up there. So, I'm not sure if what you're referring to is a seperate work, or...?
>Include Plutarch (if only some of his Roman Lives)
Already up there. Just below the Twelve Caesers.
>Maybe include Sallust. He's brief, fun, covers largely ignored events of the late republic, and is an excellent commentator on the moral decline I mentioned above, especially given that he writes in the dying days of the republic.
Again, thanks for the recommendation. I'll be sure to look it up.
>All in all, great work; this is much better than the first chart.
Again, thank you. It feels good to get compliments on this board for once.
Is psychohistory supposed to be Marxism?
>>8046653
You have it backwards, Marxism is supposed to be psychohistory.
>>8046653
Anyone else thought that the end of this series got too cheesy?
I read it when I was 16 and I thought so.
Isn't psychohistory chaos math?
It's been a while since I read it, but psychohistory was him adding and doing fantastic calculations to draw likely conclusions hundreds of years in the future?
How does rap at its best compare to written poetry at its best?
Who is the most poetic rapper?
>>8046336
The Odyssey is a poem as well as Beowulf. So poetry at its best is eons above rap at its best.
>>8046336
slim shady
Mos Def isn't bad, but rap is basically glorified slam poetry
>implying this isn't anything short of a masterpiece
>>8046074
b8, poorly read, or manchild
>>8046074
I read the plot today. seemed fine to me.
is it any good?
It is really underrated because genre fiction
