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How do you fix a gf who thinks Hegel and Kierkegaard are "boss" but thinks Camus and Sartre are "hacks"? I pointed out to her that Kierkegaard hated Hegel but she just said "yeah, taking them as a whole they're completely incompatible, but taken as teachers I still learn new things from both each time I read them."
>>8048852
>bait
Murder-suicide.
>>8048852
>someone with a gf appropriates pepe
Christianity - The Bible
Islam - Quran
Hindu - Gita
Buddhism - _____
Daoism - _____
(I really don't know)
Buddhism: The Gospel of Buddha, Compiled From Ancient Records.
Idk about Taoism though.
Tao Te Ching, you could have easily looked this up
Jehovah's Witnesses - DELIVERANCE, GOVERNMENT, JEHOVAH, RICHESall bullshit
No, this won't be another tired Stoner thread about how it was the first book that made me cry or whatever the fuck people always say on this shitty Kurdish meat curdling website. Instead, I want to talk about quality that exists in Stoner and the rest of Williams' work, and also exists in the work of others writers like, say, Kazuo Ishiguro: humility. I get the feeling that one of the reasons I am able to appreciate the work of Williams to the extent that I do is that there seems to be no ego whatsoever in them. Williams seems to be writing not to impress anyone. And don't get me wrong: Williams has a very careful and balanced style and is a very good writer, but he doesn't seem to ever be trying to prove his intelligence in the likes of Joyce or Wallace. And there's something almost pure about it: I get the sense that he writes not at all to impose himself and his ego on the reader, to make a name for himself, but for the love of literature itself, for the love the expression, the words, the emotions, etc. This humility is even mirrored in the character of Stoner himself. And with regards to Ishiguro, when I was reading the Remains of the Day, I felt a very similar feeling. Ishiguro never made any unnecessary references to prove how well-read he was, nor did he really do anything that was ever unnecessary, each sentence seeming to be crafted for the purpose of telling the story and evoking a feeling, not ever to prove his intelligence. So, my question is: how important do you think humility is in the crafting of a work of art? When does the ego of the writer get in the way of the efficacy of his art? While literature is obviously an academic pursuit, and the desire to prove one's intelligence will always be embedded deep within it, at what point do you think this desire should be suppressed, if at all?
>>8048611
Authors who wisely know their powersknow them to be small
>>8048611
Yes.
That's really all I have to say about it.
I don't feel the same ego or flare you're commenting about Wallace. From what I've read, it seems as though it reflects humbleness of knowledge and all those footnotes not only highlight the obscurity in his text but also demonstrate the many influences that help in concluding an idea. From that, I think it shows a great deal of humility although I can see how it may seem as if he's throwing all this unnecessary stuff as an ego boost. There shouldn't exist an urge to let loose your knowledge over your text unless the value would improve the piece. I don't think most writers would care in earning the approval of readers and critics who care only for the superfluous form and neat little connotations. However advanced or balanced the text, writers should have more credibility in the word rather than an ulterior motive in scattering minute pieces of their ego in what they're trying to convey.
>start with le greeks
>when you're done with that go forward in time, reading random philosophers as you go along
>skip kant as well as anyone you disagree with
>probably best to skip the entirety of eastern philosophy as well tbqhfam
>once you get to stirner philosophy is over and there is nothing left to learn
>kill self
>>8048442
Nope start with stirner end with stirner then kill self
>>8048474
thanks, i'll try it out
>>8048442
>skip kant
????????
Loved this book. How did others like it?
Definitive Ishiguro Power Ranking:
>Canonical masterpiece tier
The Unconsoled - S
>Beloved classic tier
The Remains of the Day - A+
The Buried Giant - A+
>Delightful intro tier
Cellists - A
Crooner - B
>Flawed but touching tier
Never Let Me Go - B+
>Novel experimentation tier
A Pale View of Hills - B
>Traditionally proficient tier
Artist of the Floating World - B-
>Flawed experimentation tier
When We Were Orphans - C
Nocturne - C
Come Rain or Come Shine - C-
Malvern Hills - C-
>>8048439
Correct, except replace The Unconsoled with RotD
>>8048439
Buried giant was my first ishiguro book i picked up from the bookstore at random after i entered military camp. I fell in love with this novel and thats coming from someone far from the avid reader. Im going to use this list to the fullest
>"The price [of a commodity] then, is merely the money-name of the quantity of social labour realized in this commodity." -Karl Marx, Das Capital
Why does anybody still take Marxian economics seriously when its most essential text advances such a retarded argument about the origin of prices? Ever hear of supply and demand, senpai?
>>8048356
I agree. Marxism is lame.
I don't know much about Marx and social labor, however it does seem like a good model for communism to use in determining prices, especially since communism doesn't have markets by definition (and thus no supply and demand). In a 'market' where demand is determined by the available supply, which is in turn determined by the government's choice in production, all that remains is the labor and material cost of creating the product.
>>8048366
Well the issue is that this is his theory about prices in a capitalist marketplace. Prices are "merely the money-name of the quantity of social labour realised in his commodity," and his explanation for good A's prices falling as the market becomes saturated with it is that "too great a portion of the total labour of the community has been expended in the form of [good A if the market cannot stomach the whole quanity.]" It doesn't make any sense once you consider supply and demand.
He also argues that "the price of uncultivated land... is without value, because no human labour has been incorporated in it." Which doesn't make any sense. If something has no value nobody is going to pay money for it lol.
So I'm WRITING about a guy who wants to kill his unwanted baby without getting caught.
What would be the most realistic way he could do it ?
>>8048130
that is a nice TOMATO my main man
>>8048130
>asking for a friend
Sure, OP. Sure you are.
Why do ain't and won't have apostrophes?
can't = cannot
couldn't = could not
didn't = did not
isn't = is not
wouldn't = would not
>won't = wo not
>ain't = ain not
Because contractions are bad and you shouldn't use them. It's just common sense.
>>8048087
>Abbreviation of wollnot or woll + not, negations of archaic form of will.
>what is Jewgle
>>8048107
Ok, so ain't?
(Also, you forgot to mention there is a word 'wont', sans apostrophe, so that would get confusing.)
Thoughts on Walt Whitman?
>>8048065
where is his plug hat
>>8048065
>Whitman
tss who is he whit i dont see no one else in the pikture whit him dat dont make no sense
FUKKEN HOME RUN, CHIPPERSON
>>8048065
I used to like him but then I read a poem that I no longer remember but I don't like him anymore. No idea why really.
/blog
So I've only gotten into reading rather recently and I'm looking to expand, I've gone through the wiki but I cant just be given a giant list and pick from it, i need recommendations. this is the starter kit, the red ones are the ones I've already read and the ones with blue circles are ones I plan on reading rather soon. What do you guys think I should read next?
Joyce
>>8047858
depends what you liked the most from the starter kit... tell me your top 3 and ill tell you what direction to go
>>8047858
Can you post the not edited version please?
>he'll be fine
>>8047825
>a """rare""" interview
>>implying he's not just touring his fucking book
>>8047825
1.3 million dollar advance for underworld. Being a writer pays
>>8047901
>Being a writer pays
actually it doesn't
good lit for when you're suicidal?
someone will post the holy bible and i will jerk off to them
>>8047780
Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding
Which was the better WW1 novel?
Storm of Steel
only pussies disagree
>novel
probably AQOTWF
Storm of Steel is more geographic, scientific, cold facts; less whiney
>>8048182
>he hasn't read storm of steel
How do I rebel against my overly strict Nietzchean parents? They are always telling me to do lame shit like avoid resentment and won't shut up about Zarathustra and how great self-ownership is.
>>8047664
Leave home and never return, for all eternity.
pee in your own asshole
Show them Stirner and watch as everything they've ever believed gets pounded like a prostitute in a public parking lot
I'm looking for some literature on the ancient Germanics. The Anglo-Saxons interest me the most but I also want to learn about Germanics in general. What works would you recommend? Do any of you know of any works written in between the Middle Ages and the modern era on Germanic mysticism/esotericism?
Germania by Tacitus?
>>8047650
Does this help?
>>8047771
Thanks but I already saw that in the chart thread.
