Well, /lit/ quick question.
My girlfriend loves poetry... and I'm more of a philistine.
That said, she always cared about my interest. Our anniversary is coming up, and I decided to try and learn a bit. I read a few of the classics, from Poe, Goethe, Whitman, in order to get just a smidge of inspiration and write her a short poem as a gift. Aside a real gift ofc.
Here's what I got.
I know it's not the best, but its inspired in a year we spent apart, and I think I could use your input to make it better.
Thanks.
Replace 'Julia' with whatever your gf's name is:
Display thy breasts, my Julia, there let me
Behold that circummortal purity;
Between whose glories, there my lips I’ll lay,
Ravished in that fairVia Lactea.
>>7566956
¿For what better that travelling alone? Thought the captain in his rotted wood throne.
On the night of heavy rain and violent storm someone stood at the boardwalk--
The captain gazed through his window at the soaked, delightful figure.
He helped the young lavender dress maiden come aboard, helping her with her gear.
For three months they sailed together, at first cautious then calm as the weather.
They knew that it was no more than a temporary arrangement, at most it was entertainment.
With the shore nearing, they ignored the conditions.
They fell for each other with no inhibitions.
Yet they always had present that they had no future;
It was a teary eyed goodbye they pretended not to care about.
Defeated the captain took to his quarters and found a rose colored letter.
“Hold this close to you Captain, for I will come back. I will meet you or you will meet me,
And we will love each other whether sooner or later.”
He wrote back, but only one time, and it was then the first time that he did not lie.
His heart was hers fully when he penned ‘Forever yours truly.’
The first days were pain and the Captain repented.
Not once before had he fell for a maiden.
Pain became sorrow, and sorrow gave on to memories.
He doubted the word of the damsel, if they would be together.
He cherished their time, and if that goodbye, he could think of worse ones.
And so this love story often came to conclusion.
They both wondered if there was a point to delusion.
Years went by, separated by ocean,
The captain grew older without his maiden.
It seemed not sane to carry devotion.
Moored and between swigs of rum, his thoughts where unbound
What if for her travels another ship she had found?
He always had promised to love her,
Would that be enough to lead her back to familiar waters?
The captain sat up glum, the end of the bottle marked the beginning of dawn.
Asking these questions led to dark places, and the heart paces
He thought not more of darkness,
and fell asleep into the three months of calmness.
From the dock a figure waited,
In a lavender dress her fate contemplated.
Just replace the name with whatever your girlfriend's is
My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your letter. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.
You say when I go back you will suck me off and you want me to lick your cunt, you little depraved blackguard. I hope you will surprise me some time when I am asleep dressed, steal over to me with a whore's glow in your slumberous eyes, gently undo button after button in the fly of my trousers and gently take out your lover's fat mickey, lap it up in your moist mouth and suck away at it till it gets fatter and stiffer and comes off in your mouth. Sometimes too I shall surprise you asleep, lift up your skirts and open your drawers gently, then lie down gently by you and begin to lick lazily round your bush. You will begin to stir uneasily then I will lick the lips of my darling's cunt. You will begin to groan and grunt and sigh and fart with lust in your sleep. Then I will lick up faster and faster like a ravenous dog until your cunt is a mass of slime and your body wriggling wildly.
Goodnight, my little farting Nora, my dirty little fuckbird! There is one lovely word, darling, you have underlined to make me pull myself off better. Write me more about that and yourself, sweetly, dirtier, dirtier.
I just finished Lolita, please may we have a discussion about this book, /lit/?
How did you feel towards Humbert in the end?
What was your initial impression of Lolita?
What do you think of Nabokov's prose?
I initially thought Lolita was quite a malicious girl, but I warmed to her whenHumbert finds where she has settled down with her husband - she seemed genuinely motherly and sweet then. I also felt pretty sorry for Humbert and his loss in the end - he clearly still had a genuine love for Lolita as she grew up, and when he acknowledges, towards the endthat his actions didn't allow Lolita a true childhoodhe seems to regret everything.
This is a pretty powerful book. I initially thought Nabokov was a show-off with his prose, but I grew to love it and found that even the most mundane of scenarios became interesting with his use of language.
I only remember the Kubrick film years ago, how does the book compare to it?
>>7566953
Nabokov wrote the screenplay but he altered details from the book (like instead of Lolita being 12, she's 14) and it has its variations, but the final film seems to almost ignore the screenplay and is pretty different from the actual novel. Clare Quilty has a lot more focus in the film than he does the book.
>>7566945
What's with that cover?
After the utter failure of Ideology Lit and PineCone, it's time for another poorly planned disaster.
This time the theme is "Noir, in a city". That's it. I'll collect submissions for two months, then collect everything that’s worth reading into a pdf. The pdf wont be published like the redditfags, it'll just be for us to look at. If it works out well, maybe I'll put together a little website or tumblr or some shit, but for now it’s just a writing exercise and a chance to get people reading your work.
There will be a $25 prize for best story, delivered through paypal. It’s just a small reward to show appreciation for the work. In addition to that, I can help whoever actually submits stuff worth publishing get published. I've worked in the industry for about 5 years now.
There are no donation or submission fees, obviously.
Submission rules/Information:
1. Send all submissions in a Word or notepad file to [email protected]. If you would like, you can put your name on them. Anonymous is fine.
2. Submissions will be accepted until March 10th, 2016, at 4 P.M EST.
3. Since this is just for fun, I have no problem helping people with editing their work. Please indicate in your email if you would like me to assist in editing before I consider it for the magazine.
4. Best story is chosen completely arbitrarily by me. I'll be the only one editing and compiling this. I don’t give a shit about anyone else’s opinion.
5. Along with your submission, you can send one picture from the NY Public Library Public Domain, http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/. It's an easy way to provide an aesthetic.
6. All forms of work will be accepted, but it needs to be related to noir. If you can shit out a noir poem, go for it.
>>7566859
Kill yourself you fucking faggot. No one gives a shit about your spam.
>>7566870
fair
>>7566859
how do you define noir? cos i can't do PIs and fedoras
What are your favorite Kafka stories?
What do you think about the ending of the Castle, or the proposed ending where the man slowly dies and on his deathbed gets a letter inviting him to the castle?
Has anyone read his Diaries, or his letters to his father?
Has anyone read Max Brod's work, or others that Kafka worked with?
My favorite Kafka story is the one where it's a different author because Kafka sucks
>>7566789
I'm sorry you feel that way. Mine is probably Amerika, I really enjoy it.
>>7566784
I haven't read all of his works, but The Castle may be my favorite. Also, his diaries were a good read too.
ITT:
Post resources for learning how to write: style guides, plot, editing, etc.
http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtbloom.html
>>7566739
The Seven Plots book is great
I feel like I could write something in the style of 'the art of learning' by josh waitzkin.
I write for a living in journalism but when it comes to story telling I always have a hell of a time with proper story structure because when it's fiction. I lay out the story and I fill in blanks in my mind. Of course no one would be able to fill the mental gaps I leave. So my stories come out editing to fuck and losing sight of what I originally wanted them to be.
Are there any resources for getting over leaving gaps?
I'm taking a 6-month period of travel and all around self-improvement I would love to get over this in that time so I can better understand the craft.
Scruton, before attempting the endeavor himself, says there is no contemporary effort at sexual morality in philosophy. He says, for instance, that objecting to rape, is not really secular sexual morality, because it's just an extension of the morality against brutality.
Is he right? Is there no real endeavor toward secular sexual morality today?
>>7566392
It doesn't matter because everyone just fucks each other to forget how pointless life is in the modern world
>>7566392
Well, sex is cheap these days; I would say that modern morality surrounding sex falls into either the traditional "Abrahamic" attitudes in the decaying bastions of old societies (Evangelical, Islamic, Indian regions), or the emerging cosmopolitan morality, where the ideal is to transgress all norms.
I think that people in general don't make a very big deal about interpersonal relationships anymore, although I don't know about any intellectuals who think about this
>>7566392
Sure. I mean what is it you always hear? "Anything's ok as long as everyone consents." Well shit, if that's all then why is any sexual crime so bad? If sex is meaningless then forcing someone to have sex is no more meaningful than forcing your kid to eat his brussel sprouts.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Rate Emma's taste, /lit/.
http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/art-books-music/a13407/16-emma-watson-approved-books-to-add-to-your-reading-list/
the remains of the day is pretty good
>>7566299
who?
The BFG was pretty underrated in my view, everything else can die in a fire
Anyone knows what happened to Icycalm?
Orgy of the Will hasn't been updated in several months.
http://orgyofthewill.net/
>>7566142
fuck you and your dead boyfriend.
>>7566142
He grew up
I just realized that Icycalm died mere months before Guts got off the boat
He'll be stuck repeating his life eternally without finding out the ending to his favorite comic Smh
What are some of his rad books that are actually really worth owning?
None of them you fucking pleb. This is a literature board.
>>7566048
reddit tier, all of them.
Just write what is on your chest lit. Just fucking do it, don't re read, don't spell check. Just fucking write, let out that scream that has been building inside- getting stronger after every word you've read. We don't have to critique, we can if you want, just fucking shout.
I cant stand it; I cant stand any of it. People are so willing to be ignorant, rather than educating themselves or being open to life they shut themselves in boxes to make thing easy; to make life simple. People go around just looking to gobble up the next tasty treat like some sort of mad dog: television, advertisements, Coca-Cola, drugs, fast-food, liquor, fashion, tunes, celebrities- saturated sensationalism to sponsored by cynical beings that understand the populace more than the populace would ever want to admit. There are no good corners left to hide in- youth, western refuge, is a lifestyle created by The Man in order to give life in a capitalist world the appearance of freedom. The freedom to fail, the freedom to discover, to fuck, to travel the world- but hold it kids- pack it up when you turn 30, you had your fun and now its time to contribute. And contribute to what? Societal well-being? Man kinds advancement? Advancement into what, humanity, sooner or later, will return to the void, as all things do. Or are we still breaking ourselves over the protestant work ethic? Are we still just gods good little soldiers? I am tired. I am getting older, I am getting sadder. I miss my childhood. I miss falling in love. I think i'm okay with this.
>>7565798
It's not the 50s anymore, bub.
>>7565798
Also: Happy New Year everyone. Nothing has to dictate who we are, who we want to be. Love yourself, I love you. I care about your pain. We dont always have to suffer, remember sometimes instead of looking at the pavement to look at the clouds. Something completely out of our control, completely beautiful, and always calming is right above our heads.
Love- OP.
>>7565813
sometimes I feel like it might as well fucking be, same body with a different coat of paint.
How long did it take you to read the meme trilogy?
For me it was:
IJ - 2 weeks
Gravity's Rainbow - 1 month
Ulysses - 1 month
IJ - 2 weeks
Gravity's Rainbow - 4 months
Ulysses - 2 months
this is however unfair because I read Infinite Jest whilst unemployed and living at home so I had really nothing getting in the way of reading whereas Ulysses and GR were read at busier points of my life
Ulysses - 4 months
Infinite Jest - 3 months
Gravity's Rainbow - 2 months
I learned how to read faster as I went down the line.
>>7565713
I read Gravity's Rainbow in about a month (it was for an independent reading assignment junior year of high school). I've only read about 300 pages of Infinite Jest which took me one morning when I was hungover and needed something to take my mind off things. I've never tried to read Ulysses.
/lit/ I am just bought Borges Collected Fictions.
Which short stories are must reads besides The Library of Babel?
>>7565696
why don't you read them all?
>>7565700
I probably will unless I hate it. So far I've read Library and the first few stories. I only ask because I might dislike him and not want to continue reading his weaker stories.
Tatami Galaxy is so good. The translator is ready here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6q5WiBsPEu4WmY2TU9OR2ZFbDQ/view
Also, read all the ficciones
Sadly, I can only stir up the motivation to write whenever I get really stoned. Maybe it's because this is my most comfortable state of mind. Who knows? I'll never be a writer anyway.
>>7564600
I get good ideas when high, but I don't think I could write while high, or after getting high where you still have the brain fog.
Something about getting high seems to stimulate your memory in a way that is good for creativity. I know it's a meme, but it is true.
>>7564600
It's just fear of discovering that what you're writing isn't actually good, so you can only write when you're stoned or drunk in order to have an excuse if it turns out shit.
You have to get over this anxiety if you're going to enjoy writing, just tell yourself that "the first draft of everything is shit" and that no one will ever see what you write until you've polished it and decide to show it to them.
Seriously, this has nothing to do with the psychotropic effects of weed and everything to do with anxiety.
It's always said that when you're high, you think your ideas are good, but then when you're sober again, you realize that they weren't good after all. That's not true in my experience. I get ideas when I'm high that I think are brilliant even after I'm no longer high.
If Nietzsche's ubermensch (or the "extraordinary man", in Crime and Punishment--by the way, the word for "extraordinary" here can also be translated as "transcendent") is someone, like Mohammed or Napoleon, who destroys all values to make way for values he created, then isn't Jesus Christ the greatest ubermensch who ever lived? Like with every "extraordinary man", Great bloodshed and pain were required to bring about his values (he predicted, "I do not bring peace"), but unlike with all the other ubermensch, this bloodshed and pain was wrought on his followers (starting with him). Yet more than any other man he destroyed all the old values and imposed his own.
there has only ever been one true christian and his name was Jesus Christ
>>7564411
No, Jesus Christ was God, and is thus above such small reason.
>>7564468
But there is no substance to this assertion, it's just an empty assertion. If we accepted Nietzsche as a Bible and verses by him could simply be quoted an authority, that would be something else, but Nietzsche did not himself want that.
how to spot a pseud? pic unrelated
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>>7564408
If you can't spot the pseud you're the pseud.
>>7564427
damn...
>>7564408
Pretty much everyone here is a pseud.
Read people here, and you'll know how a pseud behaves.
