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start with the Greeks

>tfw Christian grandma living in Alabama wrote the worst book I've ever touched or seen

She often changed between past and present tense from sentence to sentence.

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>>7652310

>thinking Deus Ex Machina is a valid criticism

Also, Longinus

>>7652232
I just find that Sophocles more subtle depiction of divinity resonates best with me. Besides, it's a play. I think the choices of the characters ought to explain and solve the plot, not a two-page explanation by an outside speaker.
Why Longinus, though? I know he has an Ars Poetica, but I didn't know he talked about tragedy. Could you explain?

>>7652246
>Why Longinus, though?
Say his name. Long (va)Ginas. :DDDD EPIC

I liked it
always made me hungry tho

for the record, i don't frequent this board. I assume, however, that you are as critical (and borderline autistic) as the rest of the site, so I'm curious to hear your opinions on the series i so enjoyed in my youth.

And yes, I salivate at the memory of the food described in the books.

>all the stories follow the same basic pattern
>some types of animals are inherently evil

Aside of that I really like them, loved them as a child

have you read any of them?

Hah. No.

>>7651523
Many when I was younger. None of them really hold up though.

>>7651265
bout tree fiddy

you're less likely to contract some horrible disease left by the previous reader licking their fingertips to turn the pages of a library book, than you are getting software trojans by going to those god-awful russian "free" book sites. but only just.

>>7651265

Well you waste a shit ton of time at the library just to find out they don't have a book. If you want an ebook you "Rent" itwhich is bullshit. The employees don't read so if you're looking for a fresh view you won't find it. I guess you're likely to find an entertaining piece of shit.

I learned through crochet. Which I learned from Molly and the Cumfy couch.
Knit one, perl two. It was a coded message.

>>7651225
Learn classic rhetoric

>>7651225
Think of what express means here

It means to push out, like one would express a cyst, or a bowel movement.

It feels good to express something that has built up a lot of pressure. People call it cathartic.

Art is really the same as popping zits

>>7651190
kys

>>7651198
Kys me you fool.

>>7651190
I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.

But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now read only J.K. Rowling, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Rowling was what it took to make them pick up a book, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. "Harry Potter" will not lead our children on to Kipling's "Just So Stories" or his "Jungle Book." It will not lead them to Thurber's "Thirteen Clocks" or Kenneth Grahame's "Wind in the Willows" or Lewis Carroll's "Alice."

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

Our society and our literature and our culture are being dumbed down, and the causes are very complex. I'm 73 years old. In a lifetime of teaching English, I've seen the study of literature debased. There's very little authentic study of the humanities remaining. My research assistant came to me two years ago saying she'd been in a seminar in which the teacher spent two hours saying that Walt Whitman was a racist. This isn't even good nonsense. It's insufferable.

i'd love to let you know but the only physical copies are 50$ and I'm not buying that when i can get moby dick for less than 10$ online

>>7651036
Should be /lit/core tbqh familia

Fake and gay

A scholarly life could be built around the study of him. What are you even talking about?

>>7650877
>A scholarly life could be built around the study of him.

though it's a very competitive field which tends to bring very little light to our understanding of his plays, and you're best not getting into it

>>7650885

Granted but it makes the question as to why he is highbrow quite obvious.

>>7650842
nice theread

爆人

bakunin is an idiot

t. marx

Don't put pussy on a pedestal

>>7650669
just b urself

>>7650675

This.

Go get a hooker a few times and you will get confidence. Those pros will help you build up your skills so you know you have skills and you're good to go when potential gf material finally shows up.

Archetype: snoo

Now obviously the fact that the white cloaked character is A.) Cloaked and B.) Visually similar to the Black Cloaked character makes them suspicious.
I do however, have red herrings left and right for the identities of the cloaked figures throughout the story.
I even intend for parts where I "show" parts of their face or other features that will lead the reader to believe that the cloaked figures are actually someone else.
When in fact, they are merely puppets made by the godlike powers of the antagonist, who capable of shape shifting.

>>7650582
>>7650616
Alright OP, I do like the idea of the two cloaked characters as extensions of the same agent, but I'm not sure about the public figure thing or how he's an antagonist rather than a neutral presence, given the duality of the cloaked characters.

If you want a book recommendation, the closest thing to this that I've read is... Probably Steppenwolf? Hesse was a fan of Eastern mysticism so his writing is often aware of these dualities. In the story, the main character, a recluse (the "steppenwolf"), begins going out with a young woman, whom he realizes is connected to his male childhood friend. Near the end everything sort of dematerializes, the woman is a genderless demigod who helped prompt him into enlightenment, and his antagonist is kind of the creator of the universe. It's hard to explain, but it might give you an example of what you need. Good luck!

Also, if you're less familiar with Eastern philosophy, I would highly recommend Alan Watts. First listen to his lectures, you can find all of them on YouTube, he talks often about the necessity and neutrality of duality.

hate to break it to you, but mccarthy is pretty accessible

you try-hard

Blood Meridian
Suttree
Child of God
Border Trilogy

Ordered from best to worst imo. Read in any order you want.

>>7650218

Blood Meridian is incredible.

>>7649915
All of them really, fantasy is just an exhausted genre and most of the time is just escapism and badly written .
I like Wolfe fantasy thought.

Fantasy, detest it. By the numbers childish garbage. Grew out of it by seven. A cold porridge of a genre.

>>7649915
Because, with the exception of writers like Wolfe and Tolkien, it is poorly written, extremely derivative, and, in my opinion, really boring.

Cyrano de Bergerac's

depends on your taste I guess since the good ones are by consensus

>>7649910
The stars my destination
4 that rage fuelled main character craving