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I got a bunch of awesome books list - 1. De Bello Gallico 2. Art of War 3. Natures Numbers 4. Concepts of modern mathematics 5. Calculus self teaching book 6. Astronomy 101 7. PHILOSOPHIAE NATURALIS PRINCIPIA 8. Lingua Latina Pars 1 & Pars Illvstrata 9. Origin of the species

So I have a great selection of books..But, I can't bring myself to read!!! I am addicted to games- Halp! What do I do? I just can't seem to sit still and read without the thought of Medieval II: total war popping into my head....Any advice from people who read alot & game? Or just people who have any ideas!!
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Stop gaming.
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>>7652556

If your attention is still held by video games you aren't emotionally mature enough to begin writing.
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Read something fun. Those books, although interesting, are extremely dry.
Try reading some fiction first to get you in the habit of reading.

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>The Lost FLeet and Frontlines series exist
>/lit/ards still won't read military science fiction because it's not patrician enough

kek, I bet you're all the kind of fags who drink alcopops rather than a single malt as well.
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We're too patrician to read military SF therefore we prefer alcopops to single malt? You didn't think this bait through.
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>>7652577

The point was that what you consider to -be- patrician is childish, retarded and just generally incorrect.
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>>7652595
Okay. Well you just carry on drinking your single malt and reading about space battles on the grounds that you think it makes you look "patrician". That is your prerogative.

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Can I get some help understanding this poem?
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i don't read sideways nikka
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>4 line stanza baby rhyme
Hope someone steals your mega blocks
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>>7652489
Man, did they really had to print it flipped? I fucking hate this pseudo-pomo shit. Yeas, we get it, the lines are erect, dude, that's not that smart. The breaks represent short moments where the father has to recover has stamina. I guess that paints a pretty good picture - daddy is a savage fucker but still quickly runs out of breath, you know, because of whiskey and smokes - but this is a crude way to do it.

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What are essential ten-dollar-words to sound more sophisticated?
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>>7652303
redpill
cultural marxism
Jews
Feminism
white genocide
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Misoginy
Microagression
Trigger
Mansplaining
Manspreading
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>>7652303

Make
America
Great
Again

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Will I understand pinecone's book after first reading?
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Not if you're reading it in Moonspeak you dummy.
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i think the process of "whats going on" is a topic of his books, so read slow and think about your thoughts while reading
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>>7651768
>moonspeak
That was rude

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What are some more writers like

Albert Camus
Don DeLillo
Franz Kafka
Jean Paul Sartre

Basically writers who have a style where everything potentially has more than one meaning and where the work ends up containing a critique of some element of the modern world within it, featuring eccentric characters and understated humor. I don't come on /lit/ a lot so sorry if I'm being a pleb
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Read the sticky, delete your thread
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>>7651651
start with the greeks

quit anime
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If you liked kafka ull like hunger by knut hamsun
Otherwise them writers u posted here are very different
But guess you into kinda existential shit so check some Dosto. U could also enjoy Gogol and Turgenev. Dig, lurk hard on this bitch and dont fall for the beatnik meme

What's the best way to spell out

December 23rd, 2015
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23. December. 2015 him immensely.
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De-cember twent-e-third, twenty-fift-een
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December Twenty-Third, Twenty-Fifteen

For Tolkien fans of /lit/, we know Melkor/Morgoth as Middle-earth's God of Evil, strongest of the Valar who rebelled against them to establish his own form of order over Arda.

Was he truly an evil villain and worthy (or unworthy) of being "Tolkien's Satan", or was he in the right to rebel against what he saw as absolute Valarian authority? Was he a free-thinker or a monster?
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Monster.
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>>7651007
What redeeming qualities could he possibly have
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>>7651031
I can get with his idea (at least what was implied) that Eru's perfect idea of the world felt too sterile and that he could do better with all of his power.

>Zizek starts a debate over the nature of grace
>Starts talking about jews
>Makes several jokes about jews
>Gets BTFO by one of his colleagues even within his own joke complex.

https://youtu.be/eW4Rya8zHDk?t=14m58s


Also here is a book by one of the guys (he is the bald dude in the middle):
http://www.amazon.com/Voice-Nothing-More-Short-Circuits/dp/0262541874/ref=la_B001IR3L50_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1454375200&sr=1-1
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Jews are so fucking oversensitive.
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>>7650910
zizek is hilarious here; he's on home turf so he doesn't give a fuck
>>7651066
no man, he dishes it back, it's fine; he even got another joke out of zizek
he knew he could call zizek an anti-semite because he wouldn't give a fuck
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>>7651066
>>7651111
Witnessed.

But nah, the Jew's actual response to 'why grace' is pathetic.

I want to start reading philosophy, and
I'm always told 'start with the greeks'
but
which greek do i start with?
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>>7648527
Plato. Alternatively philosophy introductions. I recommend Peter Kreeft's The Platonic Tradition.
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Read this: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/presocratics/#Mil

Then go to Plato.
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>>7648527
don't fall for the greeks meme, start with the analytics lad

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Why are shity writers like J.K. Rowling, Stephanie Meyer and E. L. James so famous? Are crappy authors who pander to the uneducated a historic normality or is this a recent phenomenon?
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What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Rowling. I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.

But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now read only J.K. Rowling, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Rowling was what it took to make them pick up a book, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. "Harry Potter" will not lead our children on to Kipling's "Just So Stories" or his "Jungle Book." It will not lead them to Thurber's "Thirteen Clocks" or Kenneth Grahame's "Wind in the Willows" or Lewis Carroll's "Alice."

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

Our society and our literature and our culture are being dumbed down, and the causes are very complex. I'm 73 years old. In a lifetime of teaching English, I've seen the study of literature debased. There's very little authentic study of the humanities remaining. My research assistant came to me two years ago saying she'd been in a seminar in which the teacher spent two hours saying that Walt Whitman was a racist. This isn't even good nonsense. It's insufferable.
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>>7648297
Wow. I don't think I've had an answer that well put together in a long time. I completely agree. I just finished a collection of Ernest Hemingways short stories and I felt more fulfilled than reading whatever I got through with the Potter series. I'm trying to understand the phenomenon on a group psychology level and I still can't seem to grasp it. I'm not saying there are no good authors anymore but there definitely has been a large shift in what society is reading. It leaves me wondering if there is any historical precedence for it.
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>>7648297
imagine if this guy watched anime

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So we all agree that Achebe is a whiny cunt and that this is a masterpiece, right?
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>>7647410
It is a masterpiece, but he's not wrong about it being racist.
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>>7647414
/thread
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What's the matter, OP? Couldn't handle a few yams?

What's the best translation of the Bible from a purely literary perspective?
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>>7644904
In English? KJV seems obvious.
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NIV to be honest family. KJV is overrated as fuck.
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>>7644911
>niv
>from a literary perspective

The NIV is literally the walmart of bible translations made by evangelical protestants for evangelical protestants. The KJV is a work of art.

Thoughts on the american tolkien?
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>>7642837
complete shit, both of them, fuck off
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Posting epic video in an epic thread
https://youtu.be/QmKhGqWcJGY
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>>7642837
He found a line and pulled on it, fighting toward the hatch to get himself below out of the storm, but a gust of wind knocked his feet from under him and a second slammed him into the rail and there he clung. Rain lashed at his face, blinding him. His mouth was full of blood again. The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit.

Face it, /lit/. Pomo aesthetic is long dead. In Italy, Elena Ferrante's Neapolitan novels are getting all the attention with their crude, direct style. In Norway, and almost everywhere else, Knausgard is hypnotizing people with his raw portrait of the best and the worst in him. In France, Carrère is writing long autobiographical novels, intertwined with "grand" narratives to elevate his everyday existence to the stuff of legend. In the US, Wallace tried his hand at being a modern Tolstoi, but he was too deep into the linguistic and structural gimmicks of Pynchon and Delillo That's why he'll eventually be forgotten, except perhaps for a few essays and that wonderful book, Brief Interviews. Franzen, after proving his worth in The Corrections, launched himself in a Tolstoi-like crusade to define the very specific but widely spread demographic of White Middle-Class America. The appearance of Pynchon's first novel in the hands of an angsty adolescent rocker and of War and Peace in the hands of the richest character in Freedom is as clear an statement as possible. Hysterical realism and maximalism, the novels that "know a thousand things but do not know a single human being", are over. Even Pynchon, in his two best novels of the post-70's period, M&D and IV, has turned to a more character-and-psychology driven approach. Vollmann's shit, par exemple, is just plain anachronistic.
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>>7652356
Wallace was trying to be Dostoevsky*. My bad.
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>>7652356

Have you been paying attention to anything recently? Post-Modernism may have led to Post-Irony, which was defeated by New Sincerety, as you pointed out, but New Sincerety is obviously being replaced with Post-Sincerety.
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>>7652364
Provide examples, please. Carrère's latest novel is from last year, and Knausgard and Ferrante just got translated into English two years ago, and they're still in progress of being published in Spanish. What the hell is Post-Sincerity?

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