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What are some books about people who are disconnected from humanity/have dissociative tendencies?
It doesnt necessarily have to be the main point of the book
>>8088999
osamu dazai pops into mind, and most of modern japanese lit
>>8088999
The Recognitions
>>8088999
some that pop into the head:
the outsider, by colin wilson
a fan's notes, by frederick exley
lolita, by vladimir nabokov
stuff by fernando pessoa
stuff by charles bukowski
you might benefit from narrowing your question, i feel like most interesting and ecstatic books deal with alienation from other people. check out "a fan's notes" though.
So in all honesty, what does /lit/ think of this guy?
>>8088853
Same as we thought yesterday, last week, last month, last year. I wonder if it'll change overnight?
>>8088853
He's a hack.
This is the first and only Murakami novel I've read so far and I want to understand it better. I think I understand the general theme of personal quest and the search for oneself and their place in life, but there are a few things I'm confused about;
>Who/what were they and what purpose did Johnny Walker/Colonel Sanders serve? Were they just there to make sure the characters did what they were supposed to?
>What exactly happened to Nakata on that field trip to make him able to talk to cats and have half a shadow?
>Was the forest near Oshima's cabin a kind of metaphor for the sensation of loss and misdirection that Kafka was feeling? What did that little village with the young Saeki represent? A longing to relive the old days?
>What did the two WW2 soldiers represent?
>Was the boy named Crow some sort of alter ego of Kafka? The kind of person he wanted to be?
>Why did Nakata believe he killed Johnny Walker only to find it was Kafka's father? Why did he see someone different?
>>8088830
I don't think there are canon answers to these questions, fampai. You'll have to form your own or rely on someone else's thoughts.
I recall reading some Murakami Q&A where he literally said it took a lot of inspiration out of dreams, so don't expect it to make a whole lot of sense in some aspects.
Some of my shitty conclusions:I think Nakata's spirit/whatever was divided into two when he and the other students went through the mass fainting, losing half his shadow and most of his intelligence. I have no idea why he became able to talk to cats though.The other half of his was passed onto Kafka (somehow) and became the Crow, which would explain why Nakata and Kafka were drawn towards one another and why the latter "felt" his father get killed by the former. I think its thanks to being one and a half person that Kafka was in top condition both mentally and physically.The librarian lady (i forgot her name) is indeed Kafka's mother and the oedipal prophecy his father threw at him ended up being right. One of the cats Nakata talks to mentions he met someone similar to him (talking about his shadow) some time before meeting him and i think it was Kafka's mother. We don't know if she has half a shadow like him but no one ever takes note of it. We DO know that she was also incomplete after coming back from the hidden village.
I may be saying a lot of shit wrong, its been 3 years since i read it.
Murakami is the worst kind of writer
he tricks you into thinking he might be doing something 'important', but unlike the postmodernists he emulates he never engages anything real, it is a bunch of wankery with a head completely in the clouds
Is 'getting old' when you give up your dreams for comfort?
When you start to feel your grandiose dreams slip and fade in favor of comfort?
Or is that maturity?
or death?
all of the above
My only dream has been that of comfort. Was I born mature?
>>8088782
You were born a bitch
I posted >>8082860 on here yesterday and got some really good feedback. So I've completely rewritten it, and would like to know /lit/'s opinion of the edit.
I was born asleep, and frankly, I wish I’d never woken up. Life, however, is not some benevolent genie waiting to grant your every wish, so as I grew older and witnessed the verminous truth of the world: the irascible nature of man, the dimming of genuinity’s light, the disgustingly palpable lusting for innocence, my reverie faded. My disdain for the simple act of being began when I was young. Mother and Father hated each other. At home they screamed, they threw things, they put holes in the walls, and as those grew, so did the holes in me. Though, out in public, they put on a putrid façade to maintain their grandiose appearances, as if the only reason they stayed together wasn’t the shit-stained-diaper-wearing-at-the-age-of-six brat that was me.
>>8088222
still trash shit bird
I was born asleep. As I grew older I saw the world, the dimming light, the lust for innocence. Mom and Dad hated each other. At home they screamed, they threw things, they put holes in the walls. Out in public, though, they maintained appearances.
>>8088427
Me again. It's not enough to save it but the real take-away is work on tightening it up. If a metaphor or image isn't air-tight don't waste the reader's time on it.
I became an avid reader like three months ago and I can't stop. I stopped watching tv and I don't spend much time on 4chan anymore.
Here's how I did it.
-Remember the average person reads like zero books a year. If you read 5 pages a day, you are 5 pages above the average person
-Don't force yourself to read. Commit to read 5 pages a day. I swear after three days you'll feel like reading more and after a month or so you should be reading 50-100 pages a day for pleasure
-Read various books at the same time. When I grab a difficult book or one that makes me sleepy I grab another and switch. This should refresh your head. Keep them thematically different. I read economics and fiction.
-It isn't a race. Reading slowly won't make you sleepy that fast. Try to acknowledge what books are for you to read fast and which aren't.
-Buy the physical copies. When you get the books from your own money you'll feel the need to read them to avoid the feel of wasting your money.
-Start with books highly discussed here so you feel motivated to discuss.
>>8088202
Thanks for the peripheral vision thing senpai. Maybe I'm a pleb for not knowing it already but whatever.
>reading is a competition
Why do people feel the need to use speed reading strategies? Using your peripheral vision hurts your comprehension and appreciation for the writing. Would you watch a TV show at 1.5x speed? Stop thinking of reading as a chore or something to boast about and just enjoy yourself.
This shit isn't that complicated. Eat, piss, put your phone and computer far out of reach, sit in a comfy chair w/ a book and read for x hours.
Are you a spiritual person, /lit/erati?
Depends on your definition of spiritual. My spirituality more or less belongs in /x/, by traditional standards.
No I'm a materialist
>>8087902
i am a religious person but without a religion. i hold onto the things i was taught as a young catholic but i have abandoned the church because the idea that an all-knowing and all-powerful god could be such a dick is too ridiculous.
My name is Anon, and I'm an addict.
This is getting out of control, /lit/. I've been reading during every free moment but I'm still buying much faster than I could possibly read. How do you all fight the temptation to keep buying all the books you want? I always justify it by saying "I'd buy them eventually anyway" but it is out of control. My current backlog is now around 100 books.
This is just this week's haul (minus four more that aren't with me right now).
>>8087720
Fucking 4chan and the rotated pics.
I just stop buying books, you fucking idiot.
>>8087720
>>8087726
lol this is fucking retarded.
Just finished reading pic related. Where's my prize, /lit/?
>>8087497
the prize is a hopefully slightly expanded conciousness, as will happen after reading any great work of fiction.
There'll be a letter in the closest waste bin.
Zizek is called "the most dangerous philosopher of the West". Who is or was the most dangerous philosopher of the West in its entire history?
Karl Marx
>>8087357
>west
you're thinking most dangerous philosopher for the west
>>8087343
>johnny foreigner from some irrelevant balkan shithole
>western
yeah ok
The most dull-witted things a person has told you about books.
I'll start : You could have read the Bible 2 times already instead of wasting time on normal books.
There Bible is the most literarily significant book
>>8087200
>Books makes you smarter.
>People that read are more tolerant and express their ideas coherently
The only reason that would have been dull-witted is if it were in fact not true that the amount of other books you had read did equate to reading the bible twice.
Suggesting books isn't dull-witted, it's a matter of taste.
What should I read next lit? I have a looooot of stuff to read.
>>8087179
ooooohhhh! Rand and Dostoyevsky on the same shelf.
>So deep
>End yourself
>>8087179
OP, did you just go out and buy the edgy college student philosophy 101 reading list?
>>8087179
Hahaha!! Kill yourself, fagit!!
Can you guys recommend me books about gender dysphoria and longing to become a girl?
infinite jest. it's a little-recognized aspect of mario incandenza's character
Nah, that usually doesn't happen in books. It's the other way around usually. Why would the smart and powerful male want to be the frail and petty female? It wouldn't make sense. It wouldn't be genuine.
>>8086993
Thailand ladyboys?
Does any translator do a better job than this?
Ch8 book 8 (the Karamazov brothers)
Constance Garnett omits the soldiers line.
>>8086399
What translation is it?
>>8086988
Avsey.
Memes aside, P&V seems to do poorly.
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/3v2oXAY.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ / http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
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>>8078729
>There are people out there that unironically think that the world of Ice and Fire is an example of deep worldbuilding
First for Paul Atreides Muad'Dib, emperor of the universal Imperium, lord of Arrakis and the spice Melange, leader of the Fremen
>>8086378
May Shai-hulud devour your soul.
