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What are some of the best and/or greatest contemporary works of philosophy?

Pic related.

>inb4 "new atheism" and scientistic dribble
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>le quirky tripfag nonsense

>>>/reddit/
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>>7536272
>What are some of the best and/or greatest contemporary works of philosophy?

alain badiou's.
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>>7536276
>I don't understand therefore it's nonsense

You're a living cliche

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What's the patrician cigarette of choice, fellow /lit/zens? I always go with the Parliaments/Camels duo. Also - being /lit/ the board to discuss anything literature related but literature itself - /smoke/ general.
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amsterdamer tobacco, ocb bio papers and filters. gauloises bleue if they don't have that. dunhills and sobranies are nice too. i liked belmonts a decade ago but they don't sell them where i am.
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Mustang Azul.
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Ha Ha Ha
No, you shouldn't smoke
You're allowing a corporation to manipulate your biochemistry and lack of willpower in order to enslave you to their product. You're also killing yourself, which is fine in itself, but you're doing it in an exceptionally pseud-ish way. You're not Camus.

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This is LCD Soundsystem James Murphy's bookshelf.
What do you think?

Do you know any other famous person with decent taste?
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more like meme taste
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>>7536219
>LCD Soundsystem James Murphy
>Famous
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>>7536232
He's more famous than you.

Which series is better?
>inb4 neither, I like to read them before I move on to the subject's own work
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>>7536142
"Very Short Introductions" are quite reputable in most subjects they are written about, generally speaking.
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>>7536171
This is absolutely false.
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>>7537417
I've only ever heard good things about them. What's your beef?

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Hey, /lit/. Hope you're well.

I'm looking for literature criticizing capitalism. Would you help me out please?
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uhm... marx?

dialectic of enlightenment? the culture industry?
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Never Let a Serious Crisis Go To Waste

(I haven't read it btw)
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>>7536057
I've already read quite a bit of Marx. I wouldn't mind reading something that takes on capitalism from a more philosophical (rather than just economical/practical) standpoint. Or even something more modern, perhaps about the most recent economic crisis - and/or injustice in a world of capitalistic ideals.

>>7536071
Thanks, I'll look it up!

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If you don't read for plot, what should you read for?
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prose, themes, etc

mostly prose tho
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Prose>Themes>Impressing /lit/>Plot
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>>7535932

pleb
>reading for plot

normal
>reading for characters

pseudo-patrician
>reading for prose

patrician
>reading for themes

real literary critics and other genuinely intelligent and sensitive readers
>realizing good authors use all of the above to work together in order to create an impressive and emotionally resonant work of art

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Is it important for a main character to be liked by the reader?

Additionally, please provide the names of you favourite books where the main character(s) are unlikable (not shallow or badly thought out, but genuinely unlikable), but the plot keeps you reading.
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>>7535909

Of course they should be likable. If they're the main character, you're spending all your time with them and so you should like reading about them the most.
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in order, no, notes from the underground, combray and anything written by vargas llosa and also

>but the plot keeps you reading.

you fucking pleb
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fire of my loins

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I've been reading JR (in English) or a few weeks and have been occasionally checking out the annotations given on williamgaddis.org. On this site I saw a few texts by translators of Gaddis' work about the act of translation. I found this one to be very interesting:

http://williamgaddis.org/translating/ingendaay-r.shtml

As a result I checked out his translation (I'm a German native speaker) and also a few English translations of German authors (Kafka, Goethe, Fontane) and I was surprised that translations really are often easier to read than the respective original. Kafka's weird syntax and Goethe's kind-of-clumsy word inventions ("buschen") pretty much disappear. Surely these are intended by the author but probably not translatable, so the translators chose to smoothen the text instead.

Have any of you experienced something similar, or am I looking too hard to find something? Any general thoughts on how texts should be translated (more freely or not), thoughts on adding Translator's notes? I pretty much agree with the link I posted, a translation should above all try to maintain a flowl, a flow that is fundamentally destroyed by too literal translations and notes.

And no >reading translations memes please.
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Avoid reading a translation as often as possible. A translated work is easier because any features which can't be rendered in the target language must be left flattened and can't be replaced with a different figure of speech. That's why a lot of antique Latin and Greek authors originally in verse are returned in prose, the metrics aren't the same. The style of Franz Kafka precisely relies in this “weird syntax” upon which revolves each sentences' pace, they are built to carry the breath on the last word in a kind of crescendo. English lost it, having a different word order, a different structure and a conflictual relation to long propositions. If you indeed read Johann Wolfgang von Goethe—sorry, I hate splitting a name—you must feel his influence in Franz Kafka's prose. In German, you spot his taste for classical literature as well as French one—guess in what language he did go through it. In English you can't. The “reading translation meme” is, for once, quite fair and reasonable. I almost never read translated works and keep it for content-driven material, such as fantasy fiction or non-fiction. Doing otherwise makes hardly any sense.
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Have you read the meme trilogy tho?
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>>7536010
I think lots of good works of fiction can survive translation. I'm very happy that I read Dostoevsky, Chekhov, Calvino, Borges and so on, all in translation. I even looked into a Ulysses translation and I'd say that you still see Joyce's qualities, so that it still is a good read even if you don't understand English. Sure, it's worse than the original, but you can't simply learn 15+ languages just to read a few novels.

Imagine being born in, say, Korea. I'm sure there is some good Korean literature out there, but you'll have to read translations eventually, also because the Korean language is an isolated language so it's pretty hard to become fluent in another language to the extent that you get more from the original text than from the translation.

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Hey /lit/, this is my first post but i was wondering if you could help me out with this AP Literature paper due tomorrow. I wasnt being lazy i just had other homework to do. Any help explaining and defining exactly what the prompt means or help with writing the essay would be greatly appreciated.
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>>7535792
>Any help explaining and defining exactly what the prompt means

he wants you to find clues as to hamlet's mental state and say whether he's just pretending to be a crazy person or not
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>>7535792
It's due 3 days from now, not tomorrow, and that's just the rough draft.
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>>7535798
She changed the due date, shes wants it the day we get back from our christmas break

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What are good books about BDSM?

>inb4 50 shades of gray
I said good
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story of o
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>>7535735
Venus in Furs
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Tbh the only erotica I've ever read was by Anne Rice (Awakening of Sleeping Beauty or something). It had BDSM (obviously) and was OK read. Her writing gave me lots of boners if that's what you are looking for. Quasi-recomendable.
I've heard a lot fo good things abput the classic Training of O if you want something written by female. Buuut, the resumen I've read gave me pretty meh feeling, I'm afraid i's lots of violent sex and literally no emotions.
Also de Sade, but it's the classic so I don't have t mention him. Never got to read anything though (what's the best one to start with btw? Justine?).

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I am a Los Angeles native living in a small small town in Pennsylvania for a few months. I thought this was a good idea but now I fear I'll go crazy without all the things in a big city. Are there any books that might help me adjust / not be a pussy?
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Try to enjoy the community and every moment you're there. Don't to anything immoral.
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Police department in my country once released a guide on how to perform suidice. You should defenitely check it out
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fucking leave? life is too short to be spent with savages away from civilization

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Are there any books (besides the bible) that have justified murder in them? Objectively speaking.
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>>7535660
>Objectively speaking

what is that even supposed to mean you cockmuncher
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Lolita. I would have murdered Quilty too, he was a real cocksucker.
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Might Makes Right - Ragnar Redbeard

"Wotcher Harry"

What did she mean by this?
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It means she's watching out for him.
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>>7535607

>*meet anon*
>"I'm watching out for you anon"

For real?
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It's just a colloquial greeting here in the UK. I suppose it's used to show the character's informal and relaxed nature towards Harry.

What do you guys think about A Brief History of Seven Killings?
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Brilliant. Best new English language book that I've read in a long time.
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>>7535525
Finally going to break my 'no books by non-whites or non-males' boycott to read this. But still haven't read it yet. Nothing by a non-male in the forseeable future though.
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>>7535640
Not even Japs?

What's a good book about the up and coming automation that is being talked about?
I mean, automation of the work force, smart enough AI's that manage our lifes, the death of work and stuff like that.
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>>7535506
>death of work

Into the army you go
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http://www.ccru.net/archive.htm
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>>7535518
... do you mean

>work of death?

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