Why does the academic meme that only classical music, Renaissance figurative art, and Greek sculpture are the only authentic forms of art? When will this meme end? Once you understand the formula or gimmick and study art history, it's actually not that amazing, and important mostly because of its place in society at the time.
>>7529811
/lit/ - literature
>>7529885
>Construction of art is a contractually determined prethought and not a figurative element of the ahistorical method
I hope I become a really good artist one day so I can shit on people like you
rank 'em
>>7529773
Wordsworth>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone Else>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Byron
Do you think his name being Wordsworth had anything to do with his becoming a poet?
Can death be sleep, when life is but a dream,
And scenes of bliss pass as a phantom by?
The transient pleasures as a vision seem,
And yet we think the greatest pain's to die.
How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.
what did he mean by this?
Write the 'lightest' sentence you can:
But I think, one of these days I'll go into my bed and that will be that, I will just stay there.
He was a good friend.
And in the night, all tiptoes fall slight on eternity's ear.
>>7529639
The sun rose.
Is the whole >reading for prose thing just a meme?? Have I been doing it wrong this whole time?
Literature is supposed to be art... Isn't one of the biggest factors of art aestheticism? A painting matters, the meaning matters, but it wouldn't be good if it didn't look good? Same goes for music, there is meaning behind a lot of songs but no one would give a fuck if it didn't sound comfy or any good?
Is the joke just going way over my head because I don't get how someone can read lit and not take prose into account??
>reading for the prose
>reading for prose
aesthetics includes prose, but if you only read for pretty words you are a memey pleb. aesthetics also refers to matters of plot, structure, tone, style, etc.
Was Nick gay?
I read an article recently that claimed Nick Carraway is gay and in love with Gatsby. This is what makes him so unreliable as a narrator. We don't know if Nick admires Gatsby because of his character, his rags to riches story, or because he just wants to get in his expensive suit pants.
There's a multitude of supporting evidence that backs up this theory. The way he describes the characters. When he sees Tom in the beginning of the book, he describes him as a beast of a man with a cruel body. He barely casts Jordan a second glance after lazily describing her.
And who could forget the part where Nick wakes up in the bedroom of Mr. McKee while the photographer is under the sheets in his underwear looking at his past work? Is Fitzgerald just fucking with us? What do you think?
Fitzgerald appreciation thread in general.
Pic related; my favorite book.
>>7529473
Can't tell if you're baiting or not. If not, please link the article.
I didn't know there were people who thought he was straight...
Daily reminder that Proust was a gay woman Homer
Can we have a this book discussion?
>inb4 Murakami is pleb epic memes
Yeah yeah. I know.
Anyone else read it? What did you think? Basically I enjoyed it. It was typical Murakami in that I became absorbed, couldn't put it down and contained some truly emotional and well done scenes. I expected loose ends and that's fine.
I didn't even care that:we never find out who rapes and then subsequently murders Shirothat the story about the pianist with the little bag is never truly explained/fleshed outthat we don't know if Sara will pick him or the old guy
The main thing I had a problem with was that at the end of it,Tsukuru just kind of ended up as more or less a victim, and I really really expected some kind of deeply repressed memory or bad instance or some kind of SOMETHING that happened between Tsukuru and Shiro that may have also led to her false rape accusation. Throughout the story they alluded to this darkness within Tsukuru. But that was never expanded upon beyond the usual speculation. This is a Murakami novel and I was fully expecting him to meet all 4 of his friends 16 years later, and that included Shiro (in another world, in a dream, etc.) So disappointed he did not have a face to face with her.
Of course I didn't enjoy:
-Murakami's/Gabriel's irritatingly unrealistic and expository dialogue (especially between Tsukuru and Sara--good God!!).
-Awful fucking similes (They clicking of her heels was like a reliable blacksmith in the morning--or some shit. Laughable).
But at the end of the day, Murakami's an absorbing storyteller and not much of a prose master. That's fine, not everyone can be Joyce.
>Murakami book that lefts mysteries unresolved
no shit sherlock, It's your first Murakami?
>>7529490
No, why don't you read what I wrote. I said, "I expected lose ends and that's fine". My main problem was not really with lose ends. Lose ends implies something has been established and not completely resolved. Rather my problem was with what was not established. Aspects of Tsukurus character and what he ended up being in the end.
>>7529457
>-Awful fucking similes (They clicking of her heels was like a reliable blacksmith in the morning--or some shit. Laughable).
thats an analogy you fucking normal faggot
What are some good, easy books that you like to read for enjoyment in between the heavy stuff that taxes your brain?
Pic related would be an example for me
Murakami
David Foster Wallace essays
If you liked the Big Sleep, I'd recommend
The Maltese Falcon
Double Indemnity
The Grifters
If you're into sci-fi:
Beyond the Rift by Peter Watts
The Story of Your Life and Other Stories by Ted Chiang
Burning Chrome by William Gibson
Mockingbird by Walter Tevis
The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester
Flow My Tears the Policeman Said by PKD
I like to read non-fiction between heavy stuff. I'm reading A Savage War of Peace right now, a history of the Algerian/French war in the 50s. Pretty cool stuff and it's a nice break. The Battle of Algiers was hardcore, fahm.
Byron
That was so bad it triggered my tinnitus.
This makes me irrationally angry
how can one man be so awesome?
Easy. In order to be as awesome as Nietzsche you only need to have three characteristics:
1.) Be intelligent.
2.) Be nihilistic.
3.) Have a wicked sense of humor.
Follow these steps and you'll get there in no time!
>>7529288
No one man may ever fill me with awe
but nietzsche was a delusional loser
Can I get a rec for something that gives a Neutral Milk Hotel vibe. I read Night by Elie Wiesel and something along those lines would be appreciated.
>>7529179
Neutral Milk Hotel is the Dave Mathews Band of music.
>>7529224
haha that was funny
>>7529224
I enjoyed this.
What did you guys think of pic related?
Reading it now. Absolutely love it
i did not enjoy it, wasn't even slightly moved by it and found the structure a bit overbearing
everyone i've ever spoken to about it loves it though
I think I want to read it again several times
What are your favourite comfy hard scifi novels?
The End of Eternity
The Time Ships, if it wasn't for that ending
The robot series isnt strictly speaking good but damn if they aren't comfy
>>7528932
Rendezvous with Rama. It's about exploring and there's (almost) no conflict, it's just really comfy.
>>7528932
Nivin Known Space stuff is soooo comfy
HELLO.
WHAT IS THE EARLIEST KNOWN EDITION OF THE "HIPPIAS MAJOR"?
Extant?
>>7528817
OR OTHERWISE.
>>7528884
Codex Oxoniensis Clarkianus 39 — 895 AD; first six tetralogies, designated B.
Hello guys, I wanted to know what is the best e-book reader that reads the epub format for the best price ?
>>7528755
why the people in /lit/ is so tech retarded? i never understood this.
kobo
>>7528772
Which model ?
So i've decided to get into Hamsun. Mainly because i'm from Norway and he is probably the greatest autor this country has ever produced. Couple of questions.
I've decided to start with Hunger/Sult because it seems like the most popular of his novels, and would be the easiest one to discus on here. What other works of his would you recommend to read after finishing Hunger. I'll try to get through as much of his bibliography as possible (unless i hate what i read of course).
I also wonder how much value is lost with getting an English translation. 100% of the books i've read the last 3-4 years have been in English, and i find it a little bit awkward to read in Norwegian for some reason. Would it be totally retarded for me to read his works in English instead of the original language? Also, what are the best translation of Hunger and his other works?
Thanks
I can only give you one advice, if you know the native language of the book, read it in the language it was written, ALLWAYS.
>>7528735
How do you know hes the greatest if youve never read him ^_^
The norwegian language has changed a lot through times, and Hamsuns language might feel a little hard to read in Norwegian, especially compared to the modern norwegian today, it has a certain danish feel to it. But I really recommend readibg it in the original, its worth the effort. He is the first author I read where I felt norwegian literature can be truly great and beautiful. Read Markens Grode after Sult.
