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weak looking dude, 2bh
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>>7417605
>How did you get in here?!
Help, police, there's a strange boy in my office!
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Are you just performatively frightening me and I can desconstruct it by performing some parodic acts?

Hello /lit/,

I don't know much about litterature so I'm asking this to you.
It may sound bizarre but I really feel the need to read some "dark, mad, tortured, disturbing" books (though not gorish if possible). I don't know why, I had this obssession of finding this kind of thing through all artistic works (music, cinema, games, paintings, etc.) since I'm 16. Alas, this need hasn't been fulfilled enough, though I've already read great books that are quite like this.

I can't really give you more details but here are my inspirations :

>Paintings :

-Francis Bacon's work

-Zdzisław Beksiński's work (pic related)

>Games :

-Sanitarium (just played the demo but I know I would like it !)

-Silent Hill 2

-The Path

>Music :

As a musician, The Residents or Coil could sum it all up otherwise it would take too long to enumarate it all

>Cinema

-Jaccob's Ladder

-David Lynch's work (like Eraserhead)

>Litterature :

-Les champs de Maldoror from Lautréamont (though I didn't finish it yet)

I've also read some Edgar Allan Poe

So, can you recommend me some books that fulfill those criterions ?
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>>7417546
>(just played the demo but I know I would like it !)
>(though I didn't finish it yet)
Twice is too obvious, not bad otherwise.
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>>7417575
What do you mean ?
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>>7417546

/lit/ would say Lovecraft, but you're better off with Poe.
AproPoe, some of Borges' more macabre work might appeal to you, for example 'A Universal History of Infamy' or his treatment of mirrors as in 'Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius'. The dread and terror in Borges tends to be pretty subtle though.
Also some of Ray Bradbury might appeal to you.

>when he reads fiction
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>>7417531
>when she thinks her opinion matters
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>>7417541
kthxbai taliban
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k

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ITT: We post authors who are hated here but are critically acclaimed everywhere else
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He's a great author for his genre. That's why he always has good reviews. If he were trying to make it in a more advanced or obscure area, he'd probably be laughed at.
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>>7417520
no surprise here /lit/ is full of /pol/fags and buttravaged white fuckbois
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The Beat Generation, or at least the prominent members.

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I just finished most of Wittgenstein. Is there even a purpose at this juncture to read anything of the things he says cannot exist, ie. Spinoza's ethics if those truths are unutterable?
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Wittgenstein's stuff has been defeated
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>>7417392
>moby
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>>7417402
By whom?

So what's the consensus on the best translation of both Eddas? Any collections that contain all or most of the Viking sagas and folklore?
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I read the Penguin edition of the Poetic Edda. I can't say much since it's the only one I've read. You can find them all online and see for yourself which translation feels the best.

Or learn Icelandic.
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I haven't read any Eddas but I read the Saga of the Volsungs a while back which was very fun.
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>>7417435
The Völsunga Saga is pretty great.

I'd recommend checking out Laxdaela Saga too. It's a little boring compared to the Völsunga but still worth reading.

What are you reading right now?

pic related for me
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>>7417340
Also Borges Collected Fictions.

This book is interesting partially because he puts the final nail in Jared Diamond's environmental theories, and in that it is also basically an apology for the whole "End of History" Neocon thing.

So refreshing for a scholar to admit his faults.
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Don't know what to start with, though
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Just finished The Fall. Now i'm reading The Trial, On the Road and 1Q84.

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How does /lit/ recognise a genius writer? I'm talking specifically about 21st century writers. Do we have a living writer about whom we could say is one of the greats, whose works will be regarded as masterpieces in the future?
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I look in the mirror.
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Throw against wall see if sticks
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Tao Lin

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Great expectations < any other book
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It's not desu
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>>7417338
And why not senpai
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>>7417327
You think great expectations is the worst book ever written? That's a pretty bold statement.

How do you start you day /lit/?

I get up at 6:45 every morning, microdose 35ug of lsd, drink a cup of green tea, and read 25 pages of a book.
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do you really? how's that working out for you? been thinking about microdosing myself, never done lsd
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I wake up from where I sleep on the ground at 6:50am. I shower and then sleep for another 15 minutes before dressing and rushing to leave by 7:30am. I catch a train at 7:55am and then take the subway to get to work by 8:30am. I then do the same in reverse and arrive home by 6:20pm, feeling exhausted, irritable and depressed.
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>>7417309
Lsd is a wonder drug and the ultimate nootropic at small doses.
Also know someone who can sell microdose amounts.

What does /lit/ think of Tolstoy's Hadji Murad?

Is it relevant to contemporary Islamic conflict?
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What do you mean by relevant?
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>>7417300
It's relevant to show that fighting has been going on for a long time and give historical context to the relationship Russia has with the Caucasus region. I don't really think Islam plays a huge role in it (which may be instructive in itself).

But you should still read it, because it's a phenomenal work as well as being short. Bloom strokes himself to it. If you are familiar with Tolstoy's longer works, it's like getting a piece of one of those without the commitment.
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>>7417300

It's very good. I liken it to Shogun for its perspective on the Other as in some ways more cultured than the Self (or at the very least as something to be respected and learned from).

What does /lit/ think of His Dark Materials? I know it's YA, but does that means it's bad?
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From what I gather it's the most accepted of all YA shit.
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It's good YA. Give it to your kids.
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Lol dude haha what if like it's God who's the bad guy haha man far out oh yeah and here's some shit tier garbage fantasy heh

ITT: People who just needed antidepressants
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>>7417274
Adorno called the cops because his students were being too loud near him. Apparently his health rapidly deteriorated around this time.

He was literally "no fun allowed" in both personal life and philosophical. It's impossible to have fun and not be complicit in some way. All art must remind us of the Holocaust etc

He was just too much. Interesting critique of Hegel though.
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>>7417304
>It's impossible to have fun and not be complicit in some way.
This is true tho.
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>>7417274
The board deals with literature, not the gossip columns, though.

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Any good /lit/ related podcasts?
I've been listening to The History of Philosophy, pretty informative.
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In Our Time with Melvyn Bragg is comfy patrician core. Lovely stuff to listen to whilst in the bath or having some tea.
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>>7417285
this
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Joe Rogan podcast
Rick Gervais XFM
KCRW Bookworm

the patrician podcasts

Tell me about Analytic and Continental Philosophies? What's the difference
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Who is that semen demon?
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>>7417163
Generic post-scene adolescent #8974358734587
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>>7417153
Analytic dominates in the Anglophone world. It inclines toward empiricism, formalism, and simplicity. It has little interest in metaphysics or style. Perhaps it can typified by this anecdote about Samuel Johnson from Boswell's Life of Doctor Johnson:
"After we came out of the church, we stood talking for some time together of Bishop Berkeley's ingenious sophistry to prove the nonexistence of matter, and that every thing in the universe is merely ideal. I observed, that though we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I never shall forget the alacrity with which Johnson answered, striking his foot with mighty force against a large stone, till he rebounded from it -- "I refute it thus." "

Continental philosophy dominates non-Anglo European philosophy and is much more interested in perception, the senses, and complexity. It is preoccupied with representation and style. Perhaps it can typified by Jacques Derrida's statement in Of Grammatology: "il n'y a pas de hors-texte" ("there is no outside-text" or "there is no outside of textuality").

Good luck and read well!

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