Hey /lit/,
I know a lot of us are probably looking for ways to make a living with writing. I'm not talking about novel publishing here, I mean day jobs that can pay rent and bread and butter.
Share what experiences you've had doing technical writing, editing, journalism, internships and other positions. What qualifications helped you land good jobs? Where do you suggest looking?
>>7422053
I wrote washing-machine advertisments online. Job's limited to students. Made about 100€, was not worth it.
I'm an intern at a publishing house in nyc. I work for free.
>>7422053
Dzanc Books does remote editing and marketing internships.
I'm not sure who's in charge of interns now, but it was pretty darn fun when I did it. Initially it was helping around with the website through the backend, but later it was more on the editing side, reviewing manuscript submissions, mostly.
I already had a BA when I applied to it. You don't get paid, but I had thought you got free books (honestly that's the reason I applied, but it was still fun regardless).
I proofread for one small publisher and do developmental editing for another, both very occasional because of the infrequency with which they put out books. I think I got in with both of them because I really adore the field they both put out books in. So I gushed a bit, sincerely, and mentioned the books of theirs I liked (and I messaged one about a blog entry specifically, which probably earned me points, since I imagine anyone is happy to know the publisher blog is actually read).
I got both of those after the editing internship, and one year into my MA with a focus on rhetoric and composition.
I would suggest looking for any opening with publishers you're already interested in, especially the small ones. Maybe even when they're not advertising an opening. Be friendly, genuine and show that you care about literature. But don't always count on it paying. You'll always get free books at the very least (and that's where a lot of my money goes anyway).
I make my living grading standardized tests now; I wasn't going to count on freelance editing. Most tests call for teaching experience, but a graduate degree was apparently a suitable alternative qualification. You can do it for ETS and Pearson, there may be others.
Does Witty really deserve all the aclaim hes given? The Tractatus was pretty far off base in its assumptions and conclusions, logical atomism was even admitted by later Wittgenstein as garbage. And his later theory of the familiar relationship of words really wasnt a very useful point, he was really just barely touching on the type of logical relationships proposed much more clearly by Peirce almost a century before him. This is without even getting into why bounding philosphy to language meanings is foolish as hell.
I feel like the fact that hes handsome and serious as hell in all his photos, some of the very brazen things he says claims, and his life story attract people to him more than they would if he didnt have these traits.
>muh language
>Namessake of work is the first work of a Pantheistic Monist
>Subject matter is to prove logic is discretely divisible
Its kind of insulting really
Most of the useful material I derived from Witty was in his notes, the Blue Book and Brown Book.
How has literature changed your life (if it has)?
>>7422000
it got me through many nights of imprisonment without committing suicide, it gave me insight into a world of those who were dead long before me but had experienced everything i had. it prepared me for nothing, yet made me aware of everything. it breathed life into me unlike any other art form in existence. all in all, eh.
it's made me infinitely more empathetic
Helped me realize how beautiful life can be
Hey /lit/, what do you think of this man? A friend got me The Stranger for my birthday, but I haven't had the time to read it yet. I was thinking of getting some of his other books during Bookdepository's Christmas discounts, but I'm not sure which ones to get first.
Care to share some thoughts on his works besides The Stranger?
Hey /lit/, when you masturbate to pics of Camus, do you do it violently or gently?
>>7421983
The Plague is great
>>7421987
I do not masturbate to dear Albert violently, the motion would be too much for my fragile penis; but I do not strangle the snake gently either - such a movement is too little in terms of excitement.
What I am left with is a paradox. Blasting a cumrock seems to the face of the father of Absurdism seems to lack all kind of clear didactic notions on how one "ought" to jack it - yet I am possessed always by the desire and fervent urge to plug my python. This paradox needs not be the end, however, of our jerk off. Rather we can rebel against such a grim prognosis on the arbitrary nature of me cumming to torrented pictures of dead philosophers; for in the eternal rolling of a wrist, I can imagine Camus happy. And I suppose that's enough for me to really blow my load, to truly make a mess out of my pants.
Wittgenstein asks Russel : Will you tell me wether I am or not a complete idiot. If I am, I shall become an aeronaut. But if I am not, I shall become a philosopher.
Russel tells young Ludwig to write a paper on the topic of his choice during the holidays.
After having read a single sentence, Russel says : "No. You must not become an aeronaut."
Do you think Wittgenstein would have ever became an aeronaut ?
>>7421915
Mildly amusing. Have a (you).
>>7421931
I didn't make this up.
youtube.com/watch?v=cFXWKEc84ew
>>7421915
The fuck was that one sentence
What's on your Christmas wish list, lads?
amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist
/7JHYO6W40ZM2
>>7421911
NOT YOUR BLOG
>>7421911
A vial of Nora's Farts.
>>7421911
Does anyone remember the wishlist threads we had, back in 2011?
Amazon apparently saved the wishlists of all the people I bought for as "friends".
I kind of want to buy a book off of some again, but who knows how many people still have the same address.
Suppose you're on a game show, and you're given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is Ulysses; behind the others, Gravity's Rainbow or Infinite Jest. You pick a door, say No. 1, and the host, who knows what's behind the doors, opens another door, say No. 3, which has Gravity's Rainbow. He then says to you, 'Do you want to pick door No. 2?' Is it to your advantage to switch your choice?
>>7421881
You also have to say why the host opens that particular door.
yes, swap to get ulysses
>>7421881
one of these things is not like the others. one of these things is utter shit.
>discover 4chan
>only go on /lit/
>get more into books, philosophy, buy more books, build collection, expand knowledge
>think I'm learning alot, satisfied in my ever-bleakening world view
>friends gradually drift away
>sex live dries up
>always moping about how only dead gay poets understand the world
>get more and more pessimistic
>starting going on /fit/ and /fa/
>look better, feel better
>friends gravitate back
>women take interest
>happiness increases
>life improves
this place is toxic. I haven't been on here in months and it all seems childish to me now. I still read, but now it's mostly crime novels with the occasional classic or history book tossed in.
>>7421819
your love is my drug ;)
>>7421819
/lit/ is here to get you interested in books. Not improve your life, though that should come as a result of the aforementioned.
>>7421819
it's because you stopped reading DFW
Who collects first editions?
>inb4 muh materialism
I try to look for old Vonnegut wherever I go.
I have a 1969 Bookclub Edition of SH5 I paid $5 for...goes for $60-100
Also have a fairly old copy of Player Piano...1952 printing?
>>7421769
>paying $5 for Slaughterhouse 5
You got ripped the fuck off son
>>7421748
materialism
So, have you read the works of one of the most impressive authors of human history yet?
http://radfem.org/dworkin/
Personal list:
>Woman Hating
done
>Right Wing Women
done
>Pornography: Men Possessing Women
done
>Our Blood
done
>Life and Death
almost done
>Letters From a War Zone
have yet to read
>Intercourse
Too fucking deep for me. (Maybe it's because I'm a virgin.)
>Pornography and Civil Rights (co-authored by Catharine MacKinnon)
done
Bonus:
>The Sexual Liberals and the Attack on Feminism (includes speeches by Dworkin, MacKinnon, and other very interesting people)
done
(Can also be downloaded from http://radfem.org/.)
Get on my level, nerds.
>>7421674
Can you divulge more about these texts and her ideology?
>>7421674
>Ice & Fire
That's the one with the dragons in it right?
>>7421679
Woman Hating is just about 200 pages and serves as a manifesto of sorts.
What did you have to read anon
Lord of The Flies, 1984, Death of Ivan Ilyich, A Midsummer Night's Dream.
Pretty good stuff I guess.
>>7421581
Yeah outside of speak I read animal farm, Oedipus, hamlet, Macbeth, an lots of Poe
>liked:
Shakespeare's works
Of Mice and Men
>meh:
Night. It's not a bad book, I was just tired of reading about the fucking holocaust in school so it was really tiresome to read.
>shit / can't remember:
The rest, mostly godawful young adult fiction.
Best authors/books regrading the American South Mainly 1850-1950 period
>>7421497
Faulkner
>>7421525
This and Violent Bear It Away by O'Connor
>>7421497
Literature as a whole sucks here. My entire area is fixated on regional fiction. I read to let me get out of the south, in my head, for a little while.
>browsed /lit/ for a few months
>started reading through one of those top 100 lists you guys make
>start reading pic related for first time over thanksgiving break
>already into stoicism, so the samana bit hit deep
>decide to try out silence, maybe gain some insights
>amend that to apply only when talking isn't absolutely necessary for class
>don't say a word on car ride back to school
>first night has everyone confused
>some think I'm mad at them
>can only refute by shaking my head emphatically
>nights 2 and 3 go by, SA's asking if everything's okay
>some girls start getting real mad
>"this is stupid, just talk to us"
>"..."
>they only get angrier
>with nothing to say I get less social
>half of floor now concerned, other half angry
>whatever, the contemplation time and appreciation for the minute are worth it
>end up sitting in a corner of the lounge typing paper all that night
>a little stressed by lack of sleep
>decide to blow off steam by typing 'kill me' in notepad whenever I feel like giving up
>finally finish paper
>10:00 a.m.
>go for a walk to get blood moving
>return and pass out in a chair in the lobby
>come to and head up to my floor
>>7421424
cont.
>girl stops me, saying that I need to talk to someone, name's unfamiliar
>she leads me down to building office
>laptop's there
>hall director's there
>"have a seat and close the door"
sweating.jpg
>"some of your friends are very concerned about you"
>"..."
>"they've asked me to talk to you"
>"..."
>"we found the phrase 'kill me' written over 70 times on your laptop and they said you dissappeared today"
>"If you ever feel like hurting yourself, it's okay to talk to someone"
what.jpg
>"I understand you haven't been talking lately, but I need you answer some questions"
>spend 15 minutes trying to explain spiritual journeys/mention siddartha
>she doesn't understand, just gives me concerned looks
>end up barely bullshitting my way off the suicide watchlist
>"you look a little sedated"
>"I've been up for over 24 hours"
>"mmmkay, were there any drugs or alcohol ivolved in the last 24 hours"
ohgod.jpg
>she's convinced I'm using
>I don't even drink coffee
>get grilled for another 10 minutes
>get laptop back, shamble back to lounge
>everyone looking at me like I just tried to kill myself
>every S.A. in the building asks if I'm doing okay everytime I see them
>even the ones that I was friends with two weeks ago now treat me like anything will push me over the edge
>friends keep trying to make sure I'm okay
>if anyone reports me again, I'll get put on a watchlist
>tfw I just wanted to find enlightenment
fuck you /lit/, and fuck this book
10/10
>>7421424
my favorite part of siddhartha was when Samwise flopped out Frodo's cock and started blowing him. who knew buddha would be so gay?
Pic related, obviously.
Also, The Godfather.
>>7421399
(You)
I personally hated the movie adaption of Gatsby
>>7421432
The point is, it's still better than the book.
How do I contact him?
I am here what ish it
>>7421386
Batsymbol.
>>7421386
> being a literal imbecile who doesn't know how to desu to be honest in google familia
http://german.as.nyu.edu/object/SlavojZizek.html
