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Did Nietzsche finish Philosophy?
I think he was German
No, Crowley did.
>Implying Kierkegaard hadn't already finished it
wew lad
How's the writing career coming, /lit/?
sent out my 40th query letter the other day.
Have got nothing in return besides form rejection and 0 feedback.
>>7849118
I know that feel, Anon. Fuck, I know that feel.
>tfw friends and family and even random strangers love the book
>tfw every agent says it's "not quite right for me"
>>7849127
I get the same thing. Everybody likes the book, a few online communities say they love the idea, think my query is strong, all that.
Then you get nothing at all from the agents, besides the same shit they send everyone. It'd be nice to know, well do you think it's a dumb idea for a book? Did you hate the query? Did you not like the writing sample? Do you just not work with books in this genre? Was your pussy just bleeding that day? I mean what? What didn't you like?
I realize they're not obligated to tell you shit, but it's still infuriating. Not really to the point of giving up, hell i'd never do that. If you read any published author, they'll all tell the same story of getting rejected maybe hundreds of times before they landed an agent or publisher. So I always think of that.
Also, one thing I learned, be very skeptical of anything you read online about getting published. Most of it is written by unpublished morons, or total hacks who just got lucky but think they're method is golden.
Is there any piece of "internet literature" worth reading?
>>7847330
>inb4 My Twisted Life
>>7847330
can you explain what you mean more? works only published online?
>>7847330
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/caver/
obligatory
Am I just too stupid to get this book? I mean I do get the majority of it but some statements just leave me baffled. Is it just that it's been translated from French or am I not at the level where I can fully comprehend a book like that?
Book's called The Trouble with Being Born by E. M. Cioran by the way.
>inb4 yes u r too stupid
>inb4 kill urslef
Seriously, how do I come to comprehend this kind of literature? I also appreciate his work but don't completely agree with his ideas sometimes...
Has anyone ever dabbled with Cioran?
>>7837233
Sometimes you will, without realizing it, read a word without actually understand what it means. When you see a word that you don't use often, ask yourself, "what is the definition of this word?" If you can't answer confidently, look it up in the dictionary. As you're reading, do this for every word that you don't use in commonplace vernacular. As you do this you will likely realize that your vocabulary isn't quite as strong as you thought.
>>7837248
This is damn good advice actually anon, thank you. I do that with words I flat out haven't come across before but I should absolutely start doing as you've said. Thanks again anon.
>>7837248
Not Op, but looking at the extract I don't think this has much to do with vocabulary.
I'm a pleb but is that extract referring to some absurdist notion?
What is true /lit/'s opinion on this trilogy
PS: people who think fantasy is trash or reddit are not real /lit/ go back to your greek with their shakespeare or something fantasy is a real gender
>>7849077
>fantasy is a real gender
Thanks for singlehandedly confirming exactly how retarded you genreplebs are.
>>7849100
This is the most retarded meme on this board,. Some read for entertainment you autistic faggot, not just for pretending being an intellectual
>>7849112
>finding dime a dozen generic sword&cocksuckery shit """""entertaining"""""
Kill yourself tbhfam.
>the book was written by a Protestant
>the book was written
>>7847686
Protestantfags WILL defend this
>>7847686
What's wrong with Protestants?
Characters you literally want to have sex with.
>>7846577
anne frank desu
>>7846577
Nastasya filipovna would be a freak. I would leave the country afterwards though.
>>7846583
this. i want to pat her fluffy hair as she gobbles my dick to the base.
>structuralism
>post-structuralism
What's the deal with people's sudden obsession with this? In the last two years I keep seeing it all the time on 4chan. And I heard it in real life a few times too, used by "hipsters" (it's a meaningless buzzword, but I don't know what to call them) and nerdy suburban white teenagers. Seems like ever since this Derrida guy got more popular and acknowledged, all the kids have been talking about this and name-dropping this "le epic structuralism" and "post-structuralism". Is (post-)structuralism an epic new meme?
Why do people keep using this so much? Is it to show that they know a new word or something? To seem cultured? Can someone explain this to me? And what exactly are these terms? Why are they being mentioned so often? And is it somehow related to "deconstruction" (and what is that?, I read that no one knows, not even the guy who coined the term)? And what do people usually refer to when they mention structuralism or post-structuralism? What areas/activities or studies? Is it related to philosophy? Is it a movement in philosophy? Is it related to arts? Literature? Sociology? Psychology? What is it? Is it somehow related to modernism and metamodernism?
What books should I read to learn more about it?
Am I first supposed to start with the Greeks, all le ancient philosophers, then all the relevant philosophers in the last 1000 years, you know, Kant, Heidegger Foucault, Saussure, Descartes, Locke, Marx, Hegel, Sartre and everyone else? If that's the case then forget about it. But I doubt any of you actually read works from all of them and are still capable of understanding (post-)structuralism.
>>7846223
Post-structuralism influences many fields in the social science, including philosophy, psychology, sociology, anthropology etc. It basically rejects structuralist ideas, deconstructing them.
From Amazon:
You Can (Not ) Interpret
Structuralism sought to explain what the elements of human culture were by analyzing the structures surrounding those cultures. Ultimately, language is the structure of culture (i.e., culture is socially-constructed by language). However, Post-Structuralism argues that language, in and of itself, has a dichotomous contradiction. Simply stated, words can be "ambivalent," as Derrida pointed out, showing how meaning could be deferred by these embedded differences (i.e., "differance"). In other words, we can't understand cultures by interpreting their language since the language itself is (1) open to interpretation and (2) contradictory to itself by nature. Like combining matter and anti-matter (or like mixing yin with yang), words nullify their own existence. This is "deconstructionism." Each word is like this. You can interpret a word as being matter or you can interpret it as anti-matter. But this would only be a result of you seeing one side of a two-sided coin. You can interpret the text anyway you want. However, you must also understand that when you see both sides of the same coin (the matter and anti-mater), they conflict with each other. Thus, you will have two different interpretations that are each other's exact opposite. This makes interpretation rather pointless and futile since the different interpretations cancel each other out, destroying and quashing the concept of interpretation altogether. Restated: interpretation is only an end result of seeing one side of a two-sided word. Furthermore, the ambivalence of a word nullifies our ability to interpret anything.
>>7846223
>am i supposed to learn about structuralism and post structuralism by reading structuralists and post structuralists?
Triggered
>>7846238
This is the problem with throwing out empiricism wholesale.
Have you ever mispronounced a word or used the wrong one and embarrassed yourself?
>tfw just tried to pronounce "contemporaneously" and kept having to start over until my qt crush said "just say modern"
>>7842970
draught
I've pronounced Prowst the wrong way for the longest time and I like it the wrong way better than Proost.
>>7842970
>be me
>talking about Jame Joyce in lit class
>bring up "Dub-liner"
>professor pauses, unsure how to respond, and says "Ah yes... DUBLIN-er"
>mfw
What do you think?
http://www.scaruffi.com/fiction/best100.html
THE FACT
>>7838990
Pretty good
>>7838990
Wat more Patrician than the /lit/ 100 2015
Is irony the Donald Trump of literature?
I think Donald Trump is post-ironic.
>>7854302
Irony is the death of art desu senpai
>>7854350
Does that mean Donald Trump is the death of politics?
Best seafaring novels? Fantasy or not, lets discuss
Sailing Alone around the World
>>7851608
Three man in a boat, 30000 leagues under the sea and Joseph Conrad's nautical novel.
The Long Ships by Bengtsson
>Book comes with a ribbon bookmark
>remove book from backpack
>one corner of its cover was folded upward the whole time
I like everymans too OP
>the pages are too heavy to be turned with one hand and I have to let go of the subway pole every time
How dense is Marx? Is it just a standard read with an intimidating page count?
It's dry, admittedly, but it's pretty air-tight.
>>7848591
very dense. you have to be dense to come up with such a mass murdering ideology
>>7848600
>mass murdering ideology
That was Lenin, Stalin and Mao.
Hey guys,
Do you ever think about the great writers of history and wonder if they would be working in literature if they were alive today? Maybe they'd be writers, but would it be in the same medium or in the same form?
For example, if Shakespeare were alive today, would he be a playwright or a screenwriter?
Would Hemingway be a motivational YouTube personality?
Would Kerouac be a travel blogger?
Would Tolstoy be on Patreon?
Would Steinbeck be writing scathing political opinion or commentary?
Would Whitman rule Tumblr and Pinterest?
If Pynchon were starting his career today, would he be the king of weird Twitter?
>>7854095
The Whitman one I could believe, and wouldn't be surprised.
>>7854131
Whitman's great though.
>>7854095
>> For example, if Shakespeare were alive today, would he be a playwright or a screenwriter?
screenwriter
>> Would Hemingway be a motivational YouTube personality?
no, he'd be like better tom clancy
>>Would Kerouac be a travel blogger?
yes, but there are a million travel bloggers now. no one would know who he is, he'd have like 100 followers on twitter and eventually give up and teach middle school english or something
>>Would Tolstoy be on Patreon?
tolstoy wouldn't be published...maybe in christian bookstores?
>>Would Steinbeck be writing scathing political opinion or commentary?
steinbeck wouldn't be published, he'd be lost in the drawer of some agent's intern. not ripping on him, ripping on the system.
>> Would Whitman rule Tumblr and Pinterest?
no, whitman is too antisocial for social media
>> If Pynchon were starting his career today, would he be the king of weird Twitter?
if i had to guess he has an alt account or two now
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