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Books that you could define with one adjective

Comfy
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>>7664762
Angry
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dissociated
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>>7664791
Gimmicky.

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What is your country's national epic?

Prose or poetry allowed. Must involve history and the perceived national character.
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that's not an epic
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I'm not sure if you're not Irish and sincere, or Irish and trolling very hard, OP. Either way, you're retarded.

Was L Ron Hubbard right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf4gHpK4HSM
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>>7663837
It wasn't so much that he was right but the people he copied were right.
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>>7663837
>>7663837
Absolutely not

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I

I have met them at close of day
Coming with vivid faces
From counter or desk among grey
Eighteenth-century houses.
I have passed with a nod of the head
Or polite meaningless words,
Or have lingered awhile and said
Polite meaningless words,
And thought before I had done
Of a mocking tale or a gibe
To please a companion
Around the fire at the club,
Being certain that they and I
But lived where motley is worn:
All changed, changed utterly:
A terrible beauty is born.


II

That woman's days were spent
In ignorant good-will,
Her nights in argument
Until her voice grew shrill.
What voice more sweet than hers
When, young and beautiful,
She rode to harriers?
This man had kept a school
And rode our winged horse;
This other his helper and friend
Was coming into his force;
He might have won fame in the end,
So sensitive his nature seemed,
So daring and sweet his thought.
This other man I had dreamed
A drunken, vainglorious lout.
He had done most bitter wrong
To some who are near to my heart,
Yet I number him in the song;
He, too, has resigned his part
In the casual comedy;
He, too, has been changed in his turn,
Transformed utterly:
A terrible beauty is born.


III

Hearts with one purpose alone
Through summer and winter seem
Enchanted to a stone
To trouble the living stream.
The horse that comes from the road,
The rider, the birds that range
From cloud to tumbling cloud,
Minute by minute they change;
A shadow of cloud on the stream
Changes minute by minute;
A horse-hoof slides on the brim,
And a horse plashes within it;
The long-legged moor-hens dive,
And hens to moor-cocks call;
Minute by minute they live:
The stone's in the midst of it all.


IV

Too long a sacrifice
Can make a stone of the heart.
O when may it suffice?
That is Heaven's part, our part
To murmer name upon name,
As a mother names her child
When sleep at last has come
On limbs that had run wild.
What is it but nightfall?
No, no, not night but death;
Was it needless death after all?
For England may keep faith
For all that is done and said.
We know their dream; enough
To know they dreamed and are dead;
And what if excess of love
Bewildered them till they died?
I write it out in a verse--
MacDonagh and MacBride
And Connolly and Pearse
Now and in time to be,
Wherever green is worn,
Are changed, changed utterly:
A terrible beauty is born.
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>>7663542
Easter, 1916 is a poem by W. B. Yeats describing the poet's torn emotions regarding the events of the Easter Rising staged in Ireland against British rule on Easter Monday, April 24, 1916. The uprising was unsuccessful, and most of the Irish republican leaders involved were executed for treason. The poem was written between May and September 1916, but first published in 1921 in the collection Michael Robartes and the Dancer.

Interestingly, the date of the Easter Rising can be seen in the structure of the poem also: there are 16 lines (for 1916) in the first and third stanzas, 24 lines (for April 24, the date the Rising began) in the second and fourth stanzas, and four stanzas in total (which refers to April, the fourth month of the year).
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this is my new favorite meme
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"The love of Yeats for Maud Gonne MacBride, who was married to one of the participants, John MacBride, brought the events close to home."
Yeats is so humbled here that he pays homage to a man who beat the woman Yeats loved during drunken fits.

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>You're in the club and this Slovenian Philosopher starts talking to your gf about ideology

What do you do?
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>mfw my gf is a motorcycle
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>>7664793
won't worry at all.
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ask him for some coke, he's sure to have some

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Anybody got any good books on war strategy? (Actually for war, not one of those "and here's how the battle of thermopylae can help you impress your boss" pieces of shit). I'm trying to put together a study guide for this topic, and I'm starting with a basic list of resources.
So far I have:
1)Sun Tzu - The Art of War
1b)Zhuge Liang's and Liu Ji - Commentaries on the Art of War
2)Niccolo Machiavelli - The Prince
3)Niccolo Machiavelli - The Art of War
4)Julius Caesar - Commentaries on the Gallic War
5)Clausewitz - On War
6)Rommel - Infantry Attacks
7)Che - Guerrilla Warfare
8)Mao - On Guerrilla Warfare
8b)Mao - Problems of Strategy in Guerrilla War Against Japan
9)Miyamoto Musashi - The Book of Five Rings
10)David Kilcullen - Counterinsurgency
11)Patrick Pearse - Fianna Handbook
12)William Spaniel - Game Theory 101: The Rationality of War
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Strategikon
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>>7656089
Bump. Thanks OP, I was looking for a comprehensive list on war literature to help me my Red Dragon tactics
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>>7656089
Che's "Guerilla Warfare" was outdated a few years after its conception. "Prince" is a political satire and "Art of War" is full of platitudes. I don't know what it is that you want to study, but you'd be better off checking out some government websites.

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Try to defend Bukowski's ouvre avoiding:
>talking about his personal life, childhood or family
>comparing him to other authors you label as "pretentious"
>talking about Bukowski readers (or other author readers)
>once again, talking about his lifestyle. We all know he was an alcoholic. Tons of writers were too, and they had something more to tell.
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protip: i cant
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He explores unashamed primalism, which is unspoilt because of that lack of shame.

He also incorporates a brand of psychology which a lot of people find relatable. You'll probably realise a lot of people in your life are similar to characters of his, and his stories emulate those personalities so that you might reflect on them.
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i liked it.

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Let's talk about this.
How many of the entries have you read? How many have you enjoyed? Do you think these are objectively the best twenty entry-level novels?
What I'm saying is, should we try to update the list?
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>>7664916
Read all of them besides Gatsby and PKD. I read them when I was a teen and /lit/ didn't exist. I think entry level now probably has less classics and more contemporary YA. It's a good starting list. I only disliked four of them and it was because of personal taste not because they were objectively bad books.
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>>7664916
Let's not.
Fuck you chart fags. It's the same thread with the same charts every day. The list is perfect for what it does.
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>>7664921
>he hasn't read the great gatsby
not even angry, just extraordinarily surprised. I can understand not reading the blade runner book, but you weren't forced to read fitzgerald in high school?
also, which ones didn't you like?
>>7664926
oh no guys, guess we aren't allowed to rank books by our own subjective tastes
what'll we do

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>I haven't read a book this year
>I prefer pdfs over physical copies
>anytime Nietzsche comes up I spout off bullshit about his philosophy without ever reading him. and people agree with my points lol
>I enjoy music more than reading
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>sins

Nice spook
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If you like prefer music why don't you go to /mu/
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>>7663574

>I think people who read less than 75 books a year and still browse /lit/ are idiots with poor executive functions
>I think ADD is a euphemism for stupidity, and no excuse.

Share & rate your poetry collections. Wags & recommends welcomed!
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>>7670312
Basic as fuck. Only post when you own the minimum of 300+ books of poetry.
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>>7670330
this
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>>7670330
Thanks for the input insecure anon. Let's see your magnificent scrolls...?

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Has anyone read any of Roosh V's BANG series?
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havent read his books but his arguments for making rape legal on private property seemed logically sound to me
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>>7670245
Sounds like some LOLbertarian bullshit to me. Clearly rape should be legal in public as well.
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>>7670249
Why stop at rape? Why not make all crimes legal?

what is the fricken deal with this guy? why does genesis p orridge obsess over him? why is he regarded so highly among industrial fans?
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Who is Genesis P. Orridge?
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its an effete affectation
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>>7670197
You're completely ignorant of music.

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I lost the habit to read about three years ago

Is it possible for me to reacquire it or am I just going to have to settle for only reading 10 books a year?
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It's like riding a bike. Same shit happened to me and a few months ago I wen't back. I felt like nothing changed
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>>7669286

Did you do anything special to get back in the groove?

I'm thinking of just forcing myself to lock my laptop away in the late afternoon so I have to read or do nothing until bed.
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>>7669282
Yeah, I did the same thing. Just start with something fun and not too challenging, then you're back.

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Write a love letter to your waifu
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Dear waifu,

Why aren't you real?

love,
anon
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>>7668965
Eat shit you dumb slut.
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New baby shoes, never worn

Is it really so rare to find people who enjoy both genre fiction and literary fiction? Why does /lit/ believe that reading both makes you less intelligent than a person who reads literary fiction exclusively?
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Elitism. You lose your "patrician" status if you admit to reading pleb stuff.
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>>7668594
no, you lose your patrician status when you pretend they're actually good instead of simply guilty pleasures; having guilty pleasures is fine, having shit taste is not.
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>>7668591
For the most part, it's not a distinction between genre and literary so much as a distinction between mainstream and avant-garde fiction.

Mainstream fiction (which includes the vast majority of both genre and literary fiction), especially since the 1950s, tends to be extremely uninspired and one-note compared to avant-garde fiction because the primary purpose of mainstream fiction is to serve as commercial entertainment, and commercial entertainment has to follow strictly defined formulas to be viable.

On the other hand, avant-garde fiction prioritizes artistic expression above entertainment, which is a stance that's alien to those who have internalized the sensibility of the mainstream past a certain point. When one is conditioned to think of all media primarily as entertainment rather than art, there's a tendency to reject anything that doesn't offer an easily digestible, inoffensive, and formulaic experience.

Genre fiction is more stringently mainstream than literary fiction, because it has more mass appeal, but literary fiction is largely a stagnant circlejerk full of the same types of people putting out the same types of books for an increasingly dwindling audience. There's more freedom with avant-garde fiction but odds are no one's going to read it, because it doesn't conform to the expectations of an average reader of genre or literary fiction. There's no built-in audience for it.

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