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All of us students in 2nd-grade Gymnasium (me included), as in students who are 17-18 years of age got a specific book called "Alla borde vara feminister" [We should all be feminists]

It's originally a TED-talk that got adapted into a short 55-page book. Written by Nigerian feminist Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie and was actually a good read. I genuinely thought it was an amazing piece of literatture and while it didn't reflect on the world as a whole, but mostly nigerian or other less equal nations' equality, it was still very thought-provoking. I recommend picking it up if you find it.

And what are your thoughts on a feminist book becoming a mandatory read for us students?
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De e bra
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Every Swedish schoolgirl should be deflowered by Syrian refugees as part of the integration process
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>>7663842
Jag hatar att vårat land är som det är just nu. Allt är fel och ingen kan fixa det.

Låt elden stiga.

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I have a master's degree from one of the best universities in the US. I have devoured literature all my life. I am a successful published author myself. Yet, I find Ulysses to be unreadable gibberish. After a few pages, my eyes glaze over. What is it about? Where is the plot? Where is the dramatic arc? Why does Joyce get to make up his own language? Why is Ulysses a classic and the very similar Finnegan's Wake a bust? They are both nonsense. It's time to put this charade into the dustbin of literature and focus on books that actually make sense.
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u r a pleb ,
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>>7663679
Pleb.
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>best universities in the US

There's your problem, OP. You hail from the laughingstock of the world, and in the kingdom of the blind, the guy who teaches about the color "red" is king.

How does one become smarter, /lit/?
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If you have to ask...
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By challenging your present problem-solving skills.
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Observe people you think are smart. Act like them. When it starts to feel natural, adjust your assessment of people's intelligence based on your newly molded by attitude outlook. Repeat until satisfied. Serve cold.

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Is there a book that the entirety of /lit/ agrees on as being: great, without flaws, literally GOAT, etc.?
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Qur'an
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Im reading moby dick, but im finding it a bit slow at the beginning.

Did you feel the same way while reading it?

I also have to add i lost a bit of my reading routine or however you call the frequency of your reading times due to exams and vacations
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>>7663191
Moby Dick is incredible but I think everyone would agree that the chapters that consist entirely of inaccurate whale information are a flaw

Dyslexia general I guess

Anyone else here have dyslexia, it makes reading difficult but i personally find that it makes books more rewarding

Every time I see the word rap, it looks like rape so I get laughed at by people at my lit. program

Last book I read was atlas shrugged but I never finished cause my brain muddled the page up...might get back into it
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>>7658565
>atlas shrugged

wew
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>>7658573
I can barely read at all, I usually use audio books or audio to text and I type everything

It's one of the hardest books I've actually read like with letters and shit
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>>7658577

I don't think you should feel bad for dropping Atlas Shrugged most people think it's a pretty terrible book

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I want more people to seek out this amazing book so I'm going to give you a brief description I posted ages ago , some information on why I loved it and why it's worth it and even a selection of potential memes. I got mines from Edinburgh Uni library I'm sure anyone in a major city can find one easy enough.
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It's an intense read, it takes a lot of commitment because it's really erudite but also like the third longest single volume book ever written. It focuses mainly on Jim Mayn a middle aged man who has never had a dream. The book jumps between stages of his life and the stories of his grandmothers youth. These stories are intimately linked to almost everything in the book, particularly Grace Kimball who lives in Mayn's building yet never actually meets.

Mayn also seemingly knows about the distant future and something known as simultaneous reincarnation.

There are also sections known as Breathers that are very complex when first encountered that are narrated by a group of "angels" who face an unknown interrogater. They tell the story in a spiral manner revealing more and then a little more each time if you get the idea. These parts can be nauseating as they change focus numerous times during long run on sentences.

I don't think anyone could understand the book entirely on first reading anyway but it is worthwhile I feel because when it's good it's unbelievably good. Highlights include Mayns relationship with his mother and later his father, the chapter on his failed marriage and Grace's masturbation classes and the end. If you're willing to take the time then it's definitely worth it. A very hard book to summarise for a pleb like me but hope it helps
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I like to think of the interrogator(s) as the reader trying parse the dense double talk of the Angels so called breathers. Particularly when the Angels are forced to give only one answer to a question and everything becomes clearer as a whole.

The fact Mayn's present is also his past is difficult to initially get your head around and even though for large sections his name is only mentioned fleetingly to show how it all comes back to him, he still feels like one of the most fleshed out characters I've encountered. I love the way his memories of past, present and future slide back and forth. His relationship with his father though barely touched upon in comparison to the size of the novel (a sentence about Mel hitting Jim and not knowing how to say sorry and then nothing for hundreds of pages till Jims visit where through very little actually being said in the text you can feel and see their entire relationship. McElroys subtly is superb at times.

The dialogue is also some the best I've seen since Gaddis; Gordon's story to Mayn of the year he missed, Barbara (Jean!) telling Mayn he couldn't have known a torus was the best shape for a space station years before even Sci fi comics as a child or even Grace and the carpet fitters for comic value.

The book does slip with regards to trying to contain too much with some short stories or side plots complicating or distracting for the sake of it, others are sensational: Ship Rock being a favourite of mine.

This is a hard book to put across to someone else it's as I said the hardest book I've come across but like the final line of the book tells you , just take some time to sit and appreciate it. Don't rush it it's not a competition it's an experience.
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>>7653687
It shouldn't be a problem getting a copy once it's back in print.

How to start writing and not have it end up in an messy doc 100 pages long that goes nowhere, is heavily edited - although you are aware that no amount of cutting copying and reworking can save - and that won't ever be opened again after two months of fiddling?
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For starters you want to use something like Scrivener or simple Word Documents & Folders to keep your chapters and snippets organized.

Makes for much easier editing and ease of access.

The rest is really just up to your skill as a writer, avail yourself to some reference materials to help with any problems you may have.
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>>7666515
Write out a scaffolding before you start your writing
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>>7666515
i think i have adhd and endup getting dis tracted after some time

so i keep a empty note pad open and write what ever my mind has just switched to

then i come back to the original doc and continue on

one of the key things is not to edit as you write, just write out a draft before you edit

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Why is enlightenment so unattainable?

All I want is Nibbana but these niggas keep dragging me back down.
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>the current year
>believing eastern "religion"
>believing eastern "philosophy"
>not going full hegel
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>>7666150
but i want the nibbana merit badge ;_;
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>>7666149
It is unattainable because it doesn't exist.

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how do I into poetry? I want to write but I'm afraid everything I write will be shit
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Even if it is, who cares? You don't have to show anyone at first if you don't want to, and the more you write, the better you'll get, no matter how much natural talent/how good a starting place you're in.
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Spend some time learning the history of Western poetry and what's out there, particularly English poetry since Shakespeare and particularly since the Romantics.

The more you know, the more you'll know to avoid pitfalls, the more you'll know of the possibilities for poetic expression (as well as what's considered old hat), etc.

Or just get started writing disjointed free verse like everyone else does. Remember, if it uses lazy Allusive Language 101 and it's stilted, it's poetry!
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>>7665799
Poetry is very loosely defined these days so literally write anything and someone will pat you on the back for it.

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>English class
>Teacher asks what our favorite books are
>I say War and Peace
>Teacher says she has never heard of it
>She says Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
What do?
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Laugh and get an A in the class.

What would you do?
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realize she just irl trolled you and you are about to fail
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>>7665452
Smack her in the head repeatedly with a copy of it and kill her in the name of Tolstoy.

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When did you realize that biopunk is both more interesting and more realistic than cyberpunk?
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Don't know what biopunk is but sounds idiotic
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Do you have good examples?

I tried to get into Windup Girl but it was just "muh Monsanto boogeyman" in an SF setting, and not much more than a rewrite of his earlier short stories with a bit of hackneyed connection
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>>7667001
Island of Dr Moreau
Joe Ledger novels

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I'm in need of criticism here. I'm a bit of a rambler and my short essays are in need of work. I swear i'm my own worst critic. Thoughts?
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Unoriginal thoughts dressed in clichéd platitudes, congrats
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yup
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You are writing as the people you criticize, yet it's still bad

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So what are the best versions of In Search of Lost Time? That is, which is the best French edition as well as which is the best English translation?
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>reading translations
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>>7666165
suffocating levels of smugness
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There is basically only MacScottcrief or whatever. Lydia wrote a good Swanns Way though

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Recommend philosophical pessimist non-fiction please.
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>>7665659
start with the greeks
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I didn't like the other posts either.
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>>7665661
Any Greeks in particular?

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I know that /lit/ is (or at least was) full of Heideggerians. But what about Merleau--Ponty? I tried reading some of his essays, but they seemed much worse than Heidi. What are your thoughts on pic related?
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Merleau-Ponty is good but Sartre is smartre

Not really the little wonky-eyed Stalinist fuckface
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>>7665243
>I tried reading some of his essays, but they seemed much worse than Heidi.
wut? Merleau-Ponty is easier than most philosophers to read, and accessible enough you could put most of his shit as an article in a women's magazine and nobody would notice, they would just think it's the "smart" piece for the issue. Heidegger on the other hand made up new terms which even Heideggerians don't always understand, wrote and taught with a strong accent, and is prone to dropping into Greek at random.
I don't think you've read either and I'm going to bump this so other people can laugh at you too
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>>7665243
Pic related is amazing. Fascinating, incredible work.

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