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Poetry critique thread.

Post your shitty poems and critique others. Let's see if we can get a thread where every single poem gets a critique.

I have a question: what does /lit/ think is the best way to improve as a poet? Other than read/write more poetry, obviously. Suggested books on poetry-writing or poetic form?
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>>7657730
Eat, drink, and be merry
For tomorrow we die
Eat electricity
Drink five of the seven seas
Here is paralyzed sleet
Here is bubble bath rain
Acrid stench and festering tongue
New York to Moscow, Nairobi in flames

I don't know either
What is the answer?
We were told to expect more
And now that we've got more
We want more
We want more

We have moved from A to X
This welfare state is our progress
The size of it all carries us along
More equals better, it's what we want
Our energy is endless, it seems
It's there when we need it
We've got men on the job

We finance clinics to research
A cure for cancer, our least vague fear
A new kind of water
A new way of breathing
Always, somehow, a wonder cure-all
Turns up when we need it
We've got men on the job

You know from experience
The creature comforts, a house that's warm
Your body would choose all this
Of course! It's innate, we're selfish
But what if there's not enough to go round?
Defense is needed
They've got some odd men in odd jobs

We have moved from A to Z
This nuclear state is our demise
Fly away Peter, hide away Paul
Who can watch as the Earth burns, shatters, and dies?
Fail-safe, foolproof, we've heard that before
Good sense is needed
Let's hope we've got men on the job

The size of it all carries us along
More equals better, it's what we want
You know from experience
Your body would choose all this
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Postprandial Postulations

Emerald leaves float down from heaven on a breeze
The sky azure reaches end to end
Stainless blue save a rogue cloud pondering
What I'm doing down here
After lunch at McDonald's
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Moving without motion
Echoes without sound
Guide me by the hand
From this lost control
In my own world
Will it end

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>His list of those whom he calls the “good writers” — Melville, Dostoyevsky, Faulkner — precludes anyone who doesn’t “deal with issues of life and death.” Proust and Henry James don’t make the cut. “I don’t understand them,” he says. “To me, that’s not literature. A lot of writers who are considered good I consider strange."
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>>7675919
Low tier b8 m8
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>>7675919
That is not what "precludes" means.
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Cormac McCarthy said that, not John Green.

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Anybody pre-ordering Laurie Penny's new novel "Everything Belongs to the Future"?

Synopsis:

>Time is a weapon wielded by the rich, who have excess of it, against the rest, who must trade every breath of it against the promise of another day’s food and shelter. What kind of world have we made, where human beings can live centuries if only they can afford the fix? What kind of creatures have we become? The same as we always were, but keener.

>In the ancient heart of Oxford University, the ultra-rich celebrate their vastly extended lifespans. But a few surprises are in store for them. From Nina and Alex, Margo and Fidget, scruffy anarchists sharing living space with an ever-shifting cast of crusty punks and lost kids. And also from the scientist who invented the longevity treatment in the first place.

http://www.tor.com/2016/02/04/revealing-the-covers-for-tor-coms-august-releases/
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Sounds like a movie recently
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Didn't Justin Timberlake star in this?
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>>7674646
>>7674649
Sexists

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Do you find you have to make an active effort to hide your power level from people outside of /lit/?

Have you ever alienated anyone because of your taste?
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I keep reading to myself, with regular people I talk about other stuff
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>>7672164
I once told someone that objectively there are better forms of literature, and referred to Dostoyevsky, Turgenev, Yeats, and Marlowe as examples compared to John Greene, JK Rowling, Carol Ann Duffy, or Stephany Meyer. They never spoke to me again.
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>>7672164
Some old lady came up to me when I was reading V. and asked if his name was pronounced "Pinecone".

Hey /lit/.

I teach English at a local high school and out of the 150 kids I'm responsible for there are about 2 that genuinely enjoy reading. The rest approach the written word with open disdain and, occasionally, hostility. I realize my expectations may be too high for some of my students, but I've been looking for ways to get them involved in poetry and literature that don't tread into out-and-out bribery.

Poetry was a disaster. Shakespeare's on the horizon and it's a grim prospect already. I asked them to tell me what their favorite songs were about, from a lyrical standpoint, and the majority of them revealed they "don't really listen to the words."

tl;dr

How do you teach plebs to read?
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>>7668818
just write out insane, enthusiastic lectures every night. never engage the kids or have them raise their hands
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>>7668818
If you can't get people excited about reading, then you're a shitty teacher

saged

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Have any of you read My Twisted World?

What did you think of it?
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>>7673543
I read it back when it just came out. It was bretty funny. Especially when he pitches hissy fits and throws drinks at people. His plan was the most hilarious part though.
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I did!

Jesus, it was equal parts funny, sad, and dark. I hate to admit I related but highschool Rodger was highschool me.
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I thought it was pretty interesting. He really did not understand how people interact/what other people's minds were like. I can't imagine how utterly alone you would feel being incapable of understanding the common social language of people around you.

It seems that he coped with his extreme isolation/alienation by developing some kind of hyper narcissistic denial of reality that eventually led him to violently strike out at people he had become incapable of empathizing with. His views on power relations are telling, especially those to do with race and gender.

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ITT books you got memed into reading.
Starting with an all time classic
>hard mode: no DFW
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What didn't you like about it?
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>>7672158
This. I hated every second. Stopped after Chapter 10.
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>>7672158
This piece of shit. The memecarthy posting needs to die.

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Kafka, Borges and Joyce are the greatest writers of the XX century.

Prove me wrong.
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>>7671632
that's not a very controversial opinion OP. why bother proving you wrong?
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>>7671632
Borges out, Beckett in
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>>7671635
See >>7671636

Where do you get your ebooks, /lit/?
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>>7670151
The Warsaw pact countries
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>>7670151
Project Gutenberg
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bookzz or what.cd

Is Gene Wolfe supposed to be a good author?

Or just "good for science fiction"
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>>7669156

little bit of both.
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He's better than alot of "literary" fiction authors tbqh
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Purple prose shit narratives desu

ITT: Books that make you feel the feels
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>>7673818
This is a meme thread, yes?
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>>7673827
Nah dude, GR is legitimately feelsy as fuck.
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>>7673840
How's first semester in college treating you, kid?

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>have a friend in the publishing business
>write in as obtuse and opaque a manner as fucking possible, going so far as to write 1/4 of your most famous novel from the POV of a retard
>have no idea how to work with plot, nor how to limit yourself only to bringing characters that are relevant at all into your stories

>become one of America's classic authors

Why is this literal cuck (raised kids that weren't his) so goddamn beloved? He couldn't write a sensible, concise story if his paycheck depended on it. Just throw in hordes of characters, make sure your shit is utterly impossible to understand, and behold as up-their-own-ass intellectuals stumble over themselves to grant your trash some deeper meaning.
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his short stories were good

for some reason authors always feel like they need to go full retard when it comes to novels.
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Bad bait. Get this shit out of here
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It's pure aesthetics. Faulkner's writing is beautiful, and beauty gets you pretty far.

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Where to start with Kenzaburo Oe?
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you could start with "rouse up" to understand his influences but anywhere is fine. he's not difficult.
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>>7673254
Start with the Greeks
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A Personal Matter. It is one of my favorite novels.

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why didn't Ulysses divorce his wife if he knew she was cheating on him?
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>>7673189
His name wasn't Ulysses. It was Harold Bloom.
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Because she said Yes.
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>>7673193
>Harold Bloom

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Your opinion on Bret Easton Ellis?
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>>7673108
Pretentious hack who is only mad at DFW because he knows he is inferior to him.
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maximum douche
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cool guy ťbh fàm

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