im stuck in a hotel room with senpai right now. what's something short I can read on my phone? I'm normally a resident of /mu/. also if this is a request or too retarded just delete me and I'm sorry.
http://www.mrbauld.com/hemclean.html
Try Saki short stories for comedy.
Try Algernon Blackwood's The Wendigo or The Willows for spooky.
Try Descartes' Discourse on Method on earlymoderntexts.com (good ease-of-use translation) for a short and foundational philosophy thing.
why are you reading
do something to make senpai notice you
he'll be balls deep in your boipucci in no time
what are some books on memory?
IN SEARCH OF LOST TIME BY PROUST
>>8230974
>4,215 pages
I would be searching the time I lost reading it for sure haha xDD!1
is it a meme or are you serious? did you really finish it? tell me about it.
>>8230980
he's serious. the entire thing is about remembering. i finished combray, it was good, but i'd rather finish it when i can read it in french.
What would you say is the most carefully-wrought, intricate, detailed, purposeful piece of literature? Something where every single sentence has been worked and reworked by the artist until it has been made absolutely perfect, at least to their standards. Would Hamlet be the best candidate? Plays, books, poems, albums, anything is good. I am immensely bored and I'm looking for something to memorise or read over a lot or otherwise pour a lot of time into. Thank you very much.
>>8230950
You could do worse than John Keats. Sounds good aloud, regular rhythm - will be good to recite to the woman in your life, perhaps?
To Autumn
Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eves run;
To bend with apples the moss'd cottage-trees,
And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
And still more, later flowers for the bees,
Until they think warm days will never cease,
For Summer has o'er-brimm'd their clammy cells.
Who hath not seen thee oft amid thy store?
Sometimes whoever seeks abroad may find
Thee sitting careless on a granary floor,
Thy hair soft-lifted by the winnowing wind;
Or on a half-reap'd furrow sound asleep,
Drows'd with the fume of poppies, while thy hook
Spares the next swath and all its twined flowers:
And sometimes like a gleaner thou dost keep
Steady thy laden head across a brook;
Or by a cider-press, with patient look,
Thou watchest the last oozings hours by hours.
Where are the songs of Spring? Ay, where are they?
Think not of them, thou hast thy music too,-
While barred clouds bloom the soft-dying day,
And touch the stubble-plains with rosy hue;
Then in a wailful choir the small gnats mourn
Among the river sallows, borne aloft
Or sinking as the light wind lives or dies;
And full-grown lambs loud bleat from hilly bourn;
Hedge-crickets sing; and now with treble soft
The red-breast whistles from a garden-croft;
And gathering swallows twitter in the skies.
>>8230950
>the most
dropped
>>8230950
The Great Gatsby. Pretty much every sentence is beautiful and essential.
Hey there /lit/, I'm trying to get back into writing to fulfill my dream of writing a novel, but between work and school and not being a good writer in general, I've decided to write some short stories to warm up, and I'm not sure where to begin
I came up with a whole slew of ideas for short stories, and I wanted to know which one you guys would most like to read, I'll leave this up for several days to get many responses, and then I will try to start and finish this short story first draft in a single day, possibly two if I don't have the time
Numbers with a's and b's at the end (such as 1, 1a, 1b) are relying on the same foundation, but present different options for that foundation
http://www.strawpoll.me/10643068
Here's the outlines:
"Texting Purgatory" 1) a chat session online between someone who is in hell (like fire and brimstone) and someone who lives in the real world (a sci-fi futuristic setting) over a long period of time
"Inferno Road" 1b) a cyber detective enters a simulation/virtual world where people live their lives (due to overpopulation in some places and the higher quality of "life" and its much cheaper due to less room needed in the real world and less food consumption) to investigate some murder/mystery/theft and discovers a gateway in the simulation that takes him to some other place in the OuterNet and finds himself in "hell", except all of the people there are hundreds of years old from the original earth
"Replicated Nature" 2) A W074-N type (Brea's genome type human) tries to escape her home on a station during a viscious riot in which the rioters are murdering all W074-N types, she has NO training but her nature allows her to survive a great length of time and escape (or die) (this story demonstrates the strength of nature vs. nurture)
"Wind, want, and wendigo" 3) A woman infected heavily with "Wendigo" viruses (degenerated human minds in data banks, cyber-ghosts of humans) hallucinates and navigates her own mind to try and survive the infection, but discovers that she is already dead and:
3a) she sacrifices herself to save a "child" wendigo virus (the degenerated mind of a human who was a child at the time of their mind being being moved into a data bank)
3b) she assists another dead wendigo (herself) to save a "child" wendigo" from being consumed by others, and gives the "child" her prosthetic body and then disconnects it from the network, killing herself
"At the top of the White Tower" 4) A man of the VAULT (or FATE) organization investigates a series of breaches on SanC (an independent human planet-nation) and discovers a connection to 2 mega-corporations and a research facility, but is executed for what he finds
"Marcy" 5) A young man (Marcus) on the UTL Homeworld (ruled by the Feminist Party government) goes out clubbing (illegal for men to be outside of certain zones without a license) dressed as a woman (illegal camoflauge, also Marcus is an illegal genome type because his appearance makes him passable as a woman, all 3 of these things he can be "retired"/executed for) has to experience the adrenaline rush of a single night out on the town, but is hunted by one of the Government "Good Hunters", enforcers who retire such illegals and halt such illegal activities
"Solyent Meat" 6) Brea, a young female soldier takes part in a shock-raid on an orbiting meat processing facility that has been shown to be "Meat swapping" (the act of using human meat and tagging it as animal meat to sell for profit) is given command of the raid after her commanding officer is killed during the raid and has to lead her team to complete the mission and seize the facility...at any cost
"December 23rd" 7) A transcript of a Parliament/Senate type of meeting between the various government bodies that pits the UTL's Feminist Party against the Centari and other governments, ending with a disbarment from a seat at the accusation of practices of slavery, which disqualifies the UTL from having a seat on the House, however the UTL accuses the Centari of creating puppet governments of the many smaller human colonies that have been erected after the last war
"Tyranny" 8) A standoff of a young woman in her apartment where she has to be talked down from suicide by a police officer, as a group of doctors have come to take her to the "looney bin", at first it seems like corruption in the government, but through the conversation its revealed she may be much more troubled and deserving than first shown
"The Queen of Attica" 9) A young woman from the UTL relocates to (placeholder name) Attica (a colony) with expectations of male gratification and attention everywhere she goes, holding onto a sexual fantasy in which she gets attention from the many, many men of Attica (who are not bound by the anti-male idealology of the UTL Homeworld) but has a slow, progressive mental breakdown as she is constantly told how awful her personality is, and how she is constantly rejected by everyone she meets, ending in a complete psychotic break when she literally THROWS herself into a group of men for attention, and they reject her for an extremely feminine young man, who they take right in front of her
"Customer review: 1/5" 10) A professional debt collector acquires assets (banking information for debtors so that clients can collect owed debts via the legal system) and infiltrates a meat processing facility, only to discover it is participating in "Meat swapping", and is presented with a choice:
a) leave the facility to continue turning humans into meat products, as the pay the debt, and the collector make a ton of money or
b) expose the facility and have it shut down
The choice made will never be shown, however this is the same facility from 6 "Soylent Meat"
Sorry about that first paragraph, my time is extremely limited and I was being rushed out the door and messed up the spacing
>>8230934
I like the Wendigo idea.
Has there ever lived a man more mysterious and shrouded by legend than this guy?
>>8230881
Literally who?
Pynchon. not even meming
>>8230885
It appears to be Rasputin
Are there any stories about a student who is hated by their teacher and the teacher uses their power against the student?
I'm not interested in a silly plot where a teacher hates the student's mom for rejecting him and is taking it out on the student, or something similar.
I'm talking about a visceral personal difference that brings out the worst in a teacher.
Maybe I should write such a story...
I've had two teachers like that.
Any coming-of-age novel ever
Whiplash
"Settle down, settle down," Ms. Shell says as she walks into the classroom. I glance around and see my fellow classmates doing the same. Barely anyone had been talking.
"So, let's get started. Did anyone not read the assignment?" Nobody raises their hand. "Good. Then we'll get right into it. First of all, why do you think the author begins the story with a dream? Yes, Paul?"
"I think it's because a dream is the easiest way for a magical being, such as the goddess in the story, to communicate."
"Well, no, that's not exactly right. It's a reference to when God sent an angel to tell Mary she would bear his Son. This, also, supposedly happened in a dream."
They're both wrong, I think. Paul's closer though. I did it because people can have memories in dreams that they don't really have in real life. I even say that in the story! How could they get it wrong...?
"And speaking of Mary, this, I think, is what the goddess herself is based on as well. She's clearly a caring, motherly figure. That's why she is willing to sacrifice herself for the good of the protagonist. Yes, Rachel?"
"I didn't see it that way. I thought the goddess's relationship with the protagonist was more romantic than familial."
Thank you! I think. At least SOMEONE gets it!
"Come on, Rachel, if you were a follower of a pagan goddess, would you want a romantic relationship with her?" Ms. Shell asks sarcastically.
But she's right! I scream in my head. That's exactly what I was going for!
"Well, I'm straight, so not really...." The class chuckles at Rachel's response. Ms. Shell ignores it and keeps going.
"Now, finally, one of the most obvious symbols in this story are the bible verses the protagonist sees on his watch. Can anyone guess which verses these are referencing?"
Nobody speaks, not that Ms. Shell gives them time to anyway.
"All of the quotes are from the First Book of Samuel. The first one, 22:20, involves someone named Abiathar running away to join David. The protagonist sees this while he's running to join his goddess.
The second one, 24:15, is about David showing mercy to Saul, like how the goddess is merciful towards the protagonist despite him not recognizing her.
The last one, 26:28, isn't actually a real verse. The 26th chapter in the First Book of Samuel only has 27 verses. This indicates the unknown, emphasizing the uncertainty of the goddess and protagonist's futures."
Okay, screw it. I put my hand up.
Friendly reminder he did absolutely nothing wrong.
I forgive you.
While he did fuck everything up in the isle just so he could eat ham, Ralph was the biggest fuck up. So, yeah.
>>8230859
jack was cute!
CUTE!
Does /lit/ also do filename threads?
>>8230853
>tfw post from a phone
>tfw no filenames
>>8230858
(its Blood Meridian)
Is writing a diary literature?
yeah
Why would you put a comma there?
>>8230836
If a person is moved to create some sort of literature, artwork, or other material as a consequence of their depression, or even of their upper-middle class "sadness", and even if it happens to be a very boring or trite form of personal expression, then the statement in OP's image is literally false. And it is clear from the context that "creatives" and their ilk are meant, and not simply depressed people who do not manage to create anything.
>That praises are without reason lavished on the dead, and that the honours due only to excellence are paid to antiquity, is a complaint likely to be always continued by those, who, being able to add nothing to truth, hope for eminence from the heresies of paradox; or those, who, being forced by disappointment upon consolatory expedients, are willing to hope from posterity what the present age refuses, and flatter themselves that the regard which is yet denied by envy, will be at last bestowed by time.
— Dr. Samuel Johnson, "Preface to Shakespeare"
Is this the single most titanic fucking sentence ever written? Every time I read it I see a volcano erupting.
>>8230765
>Is this the single most titanic fucking sentence ever written?
yes
>>8230765
Gotdam
The pusher man
Why is stoicism so attractive to people? I noticed girls eat that shit up. Is it composure or having your shit together? I want to learn
>>8230763
/lit/ - literature
>>8230763
>.jpg
the MADMAN
Stoicism is just western Buddhism where you suppress your emotions till the whole nation ends up with a suicide rate the size of japan
I bought a second-hand book and it has a moldy odor. How do I get it out? I was thinking of sticking it in the oven for a while, not sure what temps I should go for though.
Fahrenheit 451
>>8230690
Use fine sandpaper on the edges of the pages to remove the top layer of grime, which may be contributing to the smell.
Then open the book and check for loose dirt, insects, fleas, tobacco, chocolate, biscuit crumbs, whatever, and remove these.
Gently go over the front and back cover with rubbing alcohol to remove surface stains and bacteria from people who read on the toilet, etc.
Seal the book in an airtight bag along with something fragrant for a few days.
(optional) Put the book, in a bag, in a freezer for a few days to kill any silverfish/eggs/whatever else maybe festering among the pages.
>>8230897
But if there is actual, visible mould - just chuck it.
Geoffrey Hill was tremendous. I read some of his poetry on the web and immediately started saving money to buy his collected poems. I bought them today, afraid that someone would take them from the second-hand bookstore before me.
As for Bonnefoy, I know nothing about him, because my French is terrible. I just decided to make one thread for both of them.
A terrible day for poetry.
Bonnefoy: http://www.corriere.it/cultura/16_luglio_01/morto-yves-bonnefoy-eb51adc0-3fbe-11e6-83d3-27b43c152609.shtml
Hill: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/what-to-read/britains-greatest-poet-geoffrey-hill-dead-at-84/
it's pretty depressing how many authors I only hear about because they died
I only read Salter because he died recently and he's amazing
Goodnight sweet Prince Geoffrey.
I had hoped that there was still more to come from him. I read through his collected works all through last year, astounded that there were still people producing poetry like it. I love his grumpy persona, I loved his bitching about Carol Ann Duffy to the press. I loved the prophetic drive and anger in his work. He seemed to pick up speed later in life and I really wanted more. And now he's gone.
>>8230700
I sometimes find it depressing to read him because his poetry is so obviously above anything that I will ever be able to write.
The collection I bought contains all of his poetry up to 1992. I couldn't find other works of his, because I live in Brazil, and the dollar is very expensive now.
Have you read his critical writings? A Brazilian poet once said he was the best poetry critic of our time.
His YouTube interviews are very funny. He seemed to be a wonderful, wonderful person.
About half through this and I don't really get it. Thackery has wit enough, but the prose falls too flat to deliver it. Melville proved that clause-dense English could jive; Joyce (in the Bloom chapters) that choppy could fly like a kite; Dickens is ample proof that satire of the era still plays. But Thackery just isn't registering with me. Does it get better? (recent chapters have improved some - married couples about to go to Belgium) Am I just retarded? (dime for every post says this)
Plot-wise seems like what would've happened if Gogol wrote War and Peace - but I'm not sure I can dig that either. Is there anything profound or deep in pure cynicism? The gestural (because unfinished) religious epiphany in Dead Souls struck me as far from a mistake and rather central to the book as art.
Vanity Fair general.
I'd self bump but apparently the self is a spook... So... Something bumps, anyway.
>prose
>>8230645
Recently read this, thought it was excellent.
You might just be retarded.
Thoughts on Paul Celan ?
Similar poets?
fucking great
I don't understand why the Jews are drinking milk in Death Fugue. Surely the Germans wouldn't have given them milk. It just seemed poorly researched.
>>8230545
Don't like him, too disjointed, not aesthetically pleasing in most cases. J. H. Prynne and maybe John Ashbery could be considered similar.