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You have a budget of £ 50 million and a time limit of 3 years to create something that captures the imagination of the public as much as picrelated. But it must be PATRICIAN and CANON WORTHY and contain SERIOUS PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION.
Is it even possible? Will you admit defeat and admit that Serious Literature is on par with poetry in terms of being a completely fucking dead medium?
European Extreme mode: It can only be a book.
I know man... this Pokemon shit is really throwing me for a loop especially because I've read and written almost nothing for two days now playing it
>>8262229
I waked for 3 hours yesterday with it, have to travel to take an exam today, so I can't roam around. Doesn't take up my reading time tho.
I admit defeat.
I've updated the Hungary section of wiki's Recommended Reading. The essential works and a list of authors were given, I filled in the list with concrete titles. What's your opinion?
Nem magyarul nem az igazi.
Ábel trilógia? Rejtő?
>>8262179
My opinion is that Hungary gave us a lot of good stuff, but literature isn't one of them.
>>8262234
>literature isn't one of them
what else then?
I've recently want to read the most influential books ever created by man!
ANY SUGGESTIONS?
>>8262014
>Tolkien
>Lee
>Orwell
>THREE L Ron Hubbards
>FOUR Ayn Rands
>no Bible
embarrassing
>"""""""""""""""objectiv"""""""""""""""ism
Why was she allowed to get away with this?
>>8262013
What's up with all these Rand threads lately?
It's the third or fourth I've seen today.
Chill out, pal.
6 million.
She wanted to call it existentialism but it was already taken.
I've read 1984, Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451. Any other great books like these where a society is held up as a utopia until you look closer at it and the thin veneer falls away and its true nature as a dystopia is revealed?
>>8261923
Kallocain is about a doctor working for a totalitarian government to develop a truth serum. It was written before 1984.
Fahrenheit 451 was trash.
I'm pretty sure Ayn Rand's novels classify as dystopian. I know Anthem does (its very short too).
this perfect day by ira levin. my fav dystopia.
Has there ever been a completely anonymous piece of online collaborative fiction prior to Tundra?
Yeah... it's called The Penis Was.
>>8261845
Source?
Yep.
The Archbishop of Dasein
Has anyone here read the entire Norton Anthology cover to cover? Would it be suicide? What ambitious reading projects have you undertaken?
Which Norton anthology? They kind of suck anyway since there are a lot of token inclusions that have no literary or historical significance
>>8261819
I meant English Lit, but any.
>>8261823
i read 90 pct of norton anthology of criticism and theory
Went to book store and none of my intended books were in stock so I picked up this. Is it /lit/ approved?
idk ive never read it
It's kinda entry but I won't knock it. Like Catcher in the Rye, Monte Cristo, or Lolita. Not in actual similarities, but how they're seen on /lit/
Anyways it's pretty brazy, give it a shot
>>8261752
Brazy?
Post the most beautifully crafted editions you have. Book subject, plot, author, etc. are irrelevant on this thread.
Old books are best books. Hero and Leander, in this pic.
And Cowper's Works in this pic (and a few others there).
>>8261671
Looks tacky as shit.
Post literary qts
I'll start, a young bell hooks
>African American is cute
>>8261647
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>>8261647
Michael Jackson?
What is the vaporwave of literature?
Thirty year old software manuals rewritten to feel more emotional.
>>8261593
I actually discovered this last year. Get some manuals or magazines from the 70s or 80s. There's a certain font that breathes out aesthetic. I'll try to find an example asap.
>>8261593
White Noise
Vineland
The Magnificent Third Rail
>There is an old legend that king Midas for a long time hunted the wise Silenus, the companion of Dionysus, in the forests, without catching him. When Silenus finally fell into the king’s hands, the king asked what was the best thing of all for men, the very finest. The daemon remained silent, motionless and inflexible, until, compelled by the king, he finally broke out into shrill laughter and said these words, “Suffering creature, born for a day, child of accident and toil, why are you forcing me to say what would give you the greatest pleasure not to hear? The very best thing for you is totally unreachable: not to have been born, not to exist, to be nothing. The second best thing for you, however, is this — to die soon.”
What did he mean by this
pleasure is a distraction from the natural state of decay we experience in life
life is not worth living because it is pleasurable, it is worth living because it is interesting (and worth philosophising over)
everything decays so life only gets shittier, but that doesnt stop it from being varied and worthwhile
>>8261552
Interesting. I've been trying to read Birth of A Tragedy but most of this stuff goes way over my head.
>>8261540
This is a passage that has troubled me as well. With Nietzsche we are often asked to side with the demonic figures, even to hear N speak through them. But for him to ventriloquize this Silenus to tell us to not have known life at all is the greatest good is strange. It's hard to tell what category of value is being asked of by Midas—the best thing of all? Aesthetically? Morally? Hedonically? Some blend of all three? Or "value as such?" It seems in the last case N might be taking a shot at Platonism—since the Good is beyond life, the best thing would be to have never been lowered into it. N and Silenus would then clearly be mocking Midas, whose lust for gold could be seen as a similar transcendent nihilism. On the other hand it seems valuable to read this passage in comparison with his first developed treatment of the eternal return, somewhere I think in book 4 of Gay Science, but I haven't got it ready to hand. Also, Silenus's friendship with Dionysius seems worthy of note, but I'm not sure how.
This isn't really a full analysis, just the first steps toward one; maybe a smarter and more patient anon can tie together these fragments.
I justdownloadedthe Wheel of Time series, all 14 novels along with New Spring and The Strike at Sugar Ray, and I was wondering if any other anons had read it? I got it on the recommendation of a friend after I told him I enjoyed A Song of Ice and Fire, so I know what kind of experience it will be, but I'm wondering if I should be reading it in publication order, or chronologically? I guess the story is supposed to be sort of confusing, so should I read New Spring first for context? Or will I be ok just jumping into the story with Eye of the World? Also, where does Strike at wherever fit in? I can't seem to get a solid answer as to where it fits in, and when I should read it? Thanks to anyone who can help.
Also, before anyone calls me a pleb or a genrefag, I just finished my degree in lit at uni, and I'm just trying to enjoy a low intensity fantasy read after a pretty intense four years of lit study. This is just for fun because I dig this kind of stuff.
Hahaha how come this hasn't been called the Waste of Time series (I just came up with it!)
Seriously though you could have better taste in for-fun-only worthless garbage, even compared to GRRM this is awful
>>8261560
Care to make a recommendation?
>>8261564
Discworld stuff is good and less intensive if you really just want something fun and funny
Why doesn't Mizoguchi kill himself?
>>8261536
He doesn't get into the most central part of the temple which would be the glorious death he envisioned. He doesn't kill himself any other way, because he is not trying to run away from something or end his suffering or any of those things that would drive him to end his life in an inferior way. It's not defeat and surrender but a creative, empowering process that just happens to take his life.
https://youtu.be/DPAZQ6mhRcU?t=8m37s
Really makes you think, huh.
Somehow, it's a good thing that the old temple got burned. The new one looks much fancier.
>>8261979
Plus we wouldn't have gotten a book.
I want to know everything. Is this pursuit possible? is it pointless?
Impossible and mostly pointless and juvenile
Naw, you'll most likely have everything figured out by the time you're 14-15 years old.
Watch a lot of movies and play video games. You'll know everything real soon.
>>8261519
ask Hegel
