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>mfw I haven't read most of the authors or philosophers discussed here but I've lurked enough so that I can shitpost about them credibly and knowledgeably
ok
Rt & fav
No you can't, you actually sound retarded.
Where to start with the greeks?
The Republic
THALES OR HERODOTUS OR HOMER
i skipped the greeks and im doing fine
Thoughts?
Plan on starting Mrs. Dalloway, what are some opinions of that one...thanks!
I've only read To The Lighthouse but it's dope
Why her name be Woolf when she's such a fox?
ITT: books about obsession
inb4 some asshole posts moby dick
>>7825981
moby dick
ITT: Movies that are better than the book
> tfw no gf
pls go away
...and MIkhail Bulgakov in general?
>>7824788
Starting a thread should be sharing an opinion.
what about you tell us what you think.
>>7824788
I keep on trying to read this book, and every time I do, it vanishes for like 3 months until I finally find it under a dust bin or something
I must have read up to that roman dude 3-4 times now
>>7824788
Best novel ever written as far as I'm concerned
His other things are also good but not as good as M&M
Post a piece of art that is not literature, and others post a book that suits it.
It could be music, pictorial, statuary, or a nice landscape.
>there are people who spend their entire lifes reading the same book (the bible/koran) over and over again and spend decades argueing about the same lines over and over again, listening people read them over and over again, seeking hidden meanings in it
Holy fuck
>>7824083
They're interesting though. And that's what lit comes down to really, being a spastic obsessive about lines of text.
t. non religious spurdnon
>>7824085
bro, I just read the bible and the koran and they're seem to be masterpieces of literature, but I'm not gonna kill myself over those books.
>>7824092
>the koran
>masterpiece of literature
kill urself mane
Which philosophers are pro-asceticism? Kind of had it with hedonism to be honest.
Harold Bloom
schopenhauer
Give Revolt of the Masses a read, nigga.
">The mass-man would never have accepted authority external to himself had not his surroundings violently forced him to do so. As to-day, his surroundings do not so force him, the everlasting mass-man, true to his character, ceases to appeal to other authority and feels himself lord of his own existence. On the contrary the select man, the excellent man is urged, by interior necessity, to appeal from himself to some standard beyond himself, superior to himself, whose service he freely accepts.… Contrary to what is usually thought, it is the man of excellence, and not the common man who lives in essential servitude. Life has no savour for him unless he makes it consist in service to something transcendental. Hence he does not look upon the necessity of serving as an oppression. When, by chance, such necessity is lacking, he grows restless and invents some new standard, more difficult, more exigent, with which to coerce himself. This is life lived as a discipline — the noble life.
>Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us — by obligations, not by rights. Noblesse oblige. "To live as one likes is plebeian; the noble man aspires to order and law" (Goethe). The privileges of nobility are not in their origin concessions or favours; on the contrary, they are conquests. And their maintenance supposes, in principle, that the privileged individual is capable of reconquering them, at any moment, if it were necessary, and anyone were to dispute them.… It is annoying to see the degeneration suffered in ordinary speech by a word so inspiring as "nobility." For, by coming to mean for many people hereditary "noble blood," it is changed into something similar to common rights, into a static, passive quality which is received and transmitted like something inert. But the strict sense, the etymon of the word nobility is essentially dynamic. Noble means the "well known," that is, known by everyone, famous, he who has made himself known by excelling the anonymous mass.… "Nobility" does not appear as a formal expression until the Roman Empire, and then precisely in opposition to the hereditary nobles, then in decadence.
>As one advances in life, one realises more and more that the majority of men — and of women — are incapable of any other effort than that strictly imposed on them as a reaction to external compulsion. And for that reason, the few individuals we have come across who are capable of a spontaneous and joyous effort stand out isolated, monumentalised, so to speak, in our experience. These are the select men, the nobles, the only ones who are active and not merely reactive, for whom life is a perpetual striving, an incessant course of training. Training = askesis. These are the ascetics."
>the incomprehensible being with an existence on a plane not even thinkable by human minds with the power of influencing mankind since its beginning to bring itself back from eons of slumber so it may wreck havoc on all of existence
>defeated due to being rammed by a ship
What the fuck was he thinking?
The man was pretty shit at writing satisfying endings. In fact, he was pretty shit at writing interesting plot progressions in general.
He could pretty consistently come up with spooky monsters, a decent atmosphere of slow and lurching terror, and fun, pseudo-religious rhetoric for his made up cults. He could rarely come up with a good story in which to put these things.
>>7820679
Maybe being rammed by a ship has some kind of effective incomprehensible by human thought.
>>7820708
Cosmic unlikelihood > Cosmic creature.
I like to think the idea is so unthinkable, that it broke reality at precise point; because it was supposed to happen.
This doesn't make sense, which is why it does.
Mystery can slay any Beast or God.
Is there a term for the following example:
A young person (A) holds right-wing opinions. Because they are in the minority (most young people are left-wing), it is automatically assumed they are independent and intelligent and therefore more stock is put into what they say. Alternatively, another young person (B) holds left-wing opinions. Because most young people are left-wing, it is assumed that person B has mindlessly absorbed their beliefs from their surroundings and have exercised little independence, even though there's no way of knowing this for sure.
I only used that particular example because it's one I've come across. The idea I'm looking for isn't one strictly related to politics.
>>7816251
Probably not it; but it feels a bit like no true Scotsman
>>7816251
illogicism? reverse herd mentality?
my vote: psilocybin
>>7820851
alcohol or nicotine
not a drug but a state of mind: withdrawal, unwilling sobriety
>>7820851
DUDE
>It's cool to say how good this is
>It's also cool to say it's terrible and that people only like it to seem cool
Isn't this exactly the feedback loop DFW was trying to warn us of?
Fuck the haters, in my opinion.
I just think it's terrible and generally never voice that opinion.
Am I supposed to read that fucking 8 page filmography?
Have I gone too far into a Jungian line of thinking if I've begun to conceptualize the wholeness of the Cosmos as understood in classical antiquity through the Greek mythological canon as the forms imprinted within our collective unconscious creating a psychoanalytic mural of allegorical archetypes and thoughtforms, which when accessed by particular individuated psyches allows one to integrate higher ordered abstract knowledge of human existence, becoming aligned with a transcendent identity beyond the immediacy of biological experience?
This obviously extends to other mythological conceptions of the Cosmos as well throughout all civilizations, acting as their cultures psychoanalytic imprint within the collective unconcious of humanity
Can you cast spells yet?
I hear when you get to Crowley level, you can make women's tops fly off.
>>7826047
I cannot believe how many fancy words you used to describe such a foolish idea
I'm being bamboozled, right?
Does /lit/ like Pratchett?
>>7824586
Literally "teh penguin of doom!!1!!" Of literature.
>>7824597
aw hes alright. his books are fun!
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