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But he shouldn't be divulged nor widely read, and here is why.
I was listening to the fifth chapter of the Gay Science, entitled "We the fearless ones", in which Nietzsche discusses the problem of truth.
https://librivox.org/the-joyful-wisdom-by-friedrich-nietzsche/
He concludes that truth can be just as valuable as falsehood, that both have "equal rights", so to speak. What really matters is what is more useful to life, and this both can be. The will to truth, or the conviction that truth is always better than falsehood, is merely the result of us believing our own lies, called morals. His discussion of epistemology as a moral issue is simply brilliant. But why morality if there's none of it in nature and the world? Why silly, because of the *other* world! Hence religion and philosophies like that of Plato.
Notice that he doesn't say, like the vulgar relativist, that there is no truth. No, truth does exist. It's just that it's not always productive of the most positive results.
(From this point forward, not necessarily Nietzsche's opinions.)
This knowledge, however, this wisdom, that truth is not always preferable to falsehood, should be kept away and hidden from the masses. This is because a plebeian-type mentality will always interpret this in a negative sense conducive to nihilism, providing fertile soil for destructive ideologies such as liberalism and Marxism.
Religion and mythology fulfill this important role of enforcing truth-telling to the masses. What science is to the more clever individual, religion is to the plebeian: namely telling them that truth is the most important thing in the world. But there is still a higher type of person, let’s call him patrician, who asks, with Pilate: what is truth? But this wisdom is not for the lower man. Hence why I think readers of Nietzsche shouldn't advocate too strongly for enlightenment, or if they do, only to the few. The lie of religion has this one utility, to prevent the mass-man from falling prey to destructive nihilism and manipulation by the enemies of the higher man. And since the patrician has fully abandoned the conviction that truth is the most important thing, I think it's perfectly valid for him to utilize mystification as a means of keeping the plebeian from doing harm to himself and others. (Even Voltaire thought so! Hence my issue with atheists quoting him in their advocacy for mass atheism, but I digress.) Secularism is already a sufficient solution to neutralize the more negative effects that religion can have in public life. Laugh at religion all you want, but to your peers; not publicly, not in the marketplace.
LT;DR Nietzsche is cool, just not for plebs.
>>7831786
>he shouldn't be divulged nor widely read
u 100 years late m8
>>7831786
>But he shouldn't be divulged nor widely read, and here is why.
He himself said that only the elite would truly comprehend his message.
So he declared himself to be elitist, that's why the Marx-Engels writings were criticized in some of his works.
>>7831786
>This knowledge, however, this wisdom, that truth is not always preferable to falsehood, should be kept away and hidden from the masses.
While I agree, you did just very clearly outline all of this on a public imageboard... not really following your own words there are you?
Just read The Catcher in the Rye.
I didn't like it, but neither did I hate it. I just got the feeling that Holden was his own times teenage edgelord, typically complaining about everything he could.
I think that it may have been a good book at the time of its writing, but that you can't gain anything from it reading in today.
Thoughts about the book?
>>7831686
It was never a good back.
>>7831686
>. I just got the feeling that Holden was his own times teenage edgelord
That is the point, though.
The book perfectly captures the post-war life of a parentless (not really since his parents are alive, but they are absent nonetheless), misguided, tormented by death kid who can't let go of his childhood.
Read it again.
>>7831692
Contrarian pleb, please go.
>>7831704
Now that you point that out, I can see the point.
Still, none of us, who have been raised in 1st world countries, can really see through Holden's eyes. The book has lived its course, and you cant really gain anything but historical value from it. I really don't understand those people ho say it was the most important book they have ever read.
How is it?
>>7825555
I'm 50 pages in. So far it's been vague and violent. I'm sure it's good. Read it you cock sucking nigger loving jew cunt
its ok but sort of a meme around here
i can get why some people would like it, but the only reason /lit/ posters like it is is because it's SUPER GORY DUUUDE and everyone who has just come from /tv/ or /v/ wants to read something simple they can understand while being entertained by violence
imo suttree is better
>>7825578
What about the border trilogy. I got suttree not to long ago used. The copies beat to shit
post authors that you agree with politically
>inb4 butthurt
>>7821030
i'm not hurt, i'm just very disappointed in you
oi mateys
looking for outdoorsy stuff, man against elements etc m-muh manly things
so far i've read into le wild and thinking about reading krakauers other books, as well as jack london
also is it worth reading about theodore roosevelts life, seems like the sort of rustic and old timey wimey theme i'm looking for
>>7835339
>oi mateys
>m-muh
>le
Kill yourself
>>7835341
>timey wimey
Kill yourself
Ok lit, name your top two favorite authors and your top two favorite composers, now
Tolstoy, Dante and Eminem.
>>7835075
>Herman Melville
>Anais Nin (only the journals)
>JS Bach
>Gabriel Fauré
Ok, now what happens?
>>7835076
why is the first bost always the rightest??
Pleb here. Never read a single philosophy book in my life. I want to read the Greeks, but I'm afraid just jumping into The Republic will discourage me. How do I into philosophy, /lit/?
Start with The Apology, you retarded fuck.
>>7834031
Ironically philosophy is the one place where you don't want to start with the Greeks. Start with Descartes' Meditation and Discourse.
Republic is babby tier, OP. It holds your hand through the entire process of navigating knowledge issues.
I'd say read it first tbqhfam
Serious series of questions.
1. How old are you?
2. What is the highest degree of education you have achieved/are striving to achieve?
3. Are you happy?
4. What is that one book you've been trying to finish for far too long now?
I'll answer myself after a few other responses.
>26
>GCSE
>no
>n/a
>>7833647
>26
>MA
> Day to day mood no, overall trajectory of my life yes.
> King James V Bible
>>7833647
>24
>JD
>Depends. Sometimes, yes, with glorious peaks. Other time's I'm suicidal.
>Myth of Sisyphus (I keep jumping around, and this is sitting on the nightstand, crumpled and half-finished).
I want to write the next great American YA series
It's called The Powerless
Every single person on earth developed some kind of super power X years ago.
Our hero,17 year old David Dominick, is the only person on earth with no power.
I have a loose idea of where the story goes but i feel like im missing something, a secret sauce that makes this series epic
Im looking for suggestions, what could i put in this book that really makes it soar?
>>7832246
homo sex
>>7832246
>i feel like im missing something, a secret sauce that makes this series epic
>this is what ya authors really believe
K E K
Do people learn Classical Chinese without ever intending to learn modern Chinese like we currently do with Greek? If so, how does one go about it? I know my university doesn't teach it.
No. Even Chinglers can't read Classical Chinese, really. There was a good thread recently on this. Some guy fluent in bus-shitter came and gave the inside scoop on Chinese culture and the likelihood of your ever reading Classical texts.
>>7832233
Well, what did he have to say?
>>7832233
I've heard the same thing outside of 4chan from some of my Chinese ESL students a while back.
Is there a more insane opening sentence than
"From a little after two o'clock until almost sundown of the long still hot weary dead September afternoon they sat in what Miss Coldfield still called the office because her father had called it that — a dim hot airless room with the blinds all closed and fastened for forty-three summers because when she was a girl someone had believed that light and moving air carried heat and that dark was always cooler, and which (as the sun shone fuller and fuller on that side of the house) became latticed with yellow slashes full of dust motes which Quentin thought of as being flecks of the dead old dried paint itself blown inward from the scaling blinds as wind might have blown them."
The opening sentence of The Bill by Krasznahorkai is unbelievable.
Damn OP. I've yet to read Faulker, but this board is always showering him with adulations. This is really great.
>>7831956
Call me israel :D :DDDD
Relativism or Absolutism? What school of philosophy do you subscribe to (if you subscribe to one)neo scholastic myself
>>7831326
Relativist. Up until recently I was an existential nihilist. I'm looking for a better philosophy, but it has left me feeling very displaced.
Currently toying with Evola and Nietzsche.
>>7831366
So you just change your worldview based on how it makes you "feel"? That seems ignorant, and any type of relativism or nihilism will make you feel displaced
>>7831326
relativists are to undergraduates as absolutionista are to professors
>Wardine be cry.
What did he mean by this?
Wardine be cry.
Wardine be cry.
>>7831322
Checked, verified and confirmed.
What's the deal with Freemasonry? Is it as crazy as some claim with kikes scheming, sacrificing, degeneracy, etc?
Or is it just a 'boring' club where they talk about philosophy and shit, kinda /lit/ but irl?
Anyone got an objective look a this matter?
>>7830203
They're powerful people who have a lot of wealth. So, they run everything.
Philosophically, most freemasonry deals with hermetic alchemy and other occult practices.
Crowley got bored with it cause it was weak-sauce.
>>7830203
Like most large "secret" societies, it's highly unlikely that most of the members even know what the hell it's about.
>>7830203
No jews allowed.
This is the most autistic book series of all time.
> main character is a basement dwelling aspie described as having pale skin from never leaving his computer
> Artemis is basically a neckbeard, or at least how a neckbeard views himself because he's also a genius
> spends his time obsessing over fairies like a retarded brony
> fairy he discovers is part of Lower Elements Police which is shortened to, I shit you not, LEPrecon
> all kinds of bullshit fairy politics and magic events
This series feels like what I imagine would happen if a brony inserted himself into his own fan fiction.
I read it in 6th grade and forgot about its existence entirely
sage
Hardly a controversial view here. Take it to /v/, they'll go ape.
>>7829362
I liked it. It was afunread. I still go back and flip through it when I'm feeling bored and nostalgic. Not everything has to be high literature, anon.
