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Hey /lit/!
What new word did you learn today, or word/phrase you are most fond of recently?
My new word is this:
>frutation
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Cygote for me
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Tentative. Means unsure
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Yonside

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Do you get the same benefits from listening to an audiobook instead of reading. I have been listening to To Kill a Mocking Bird while I follow with my book, I noticed I'm more alert when I listen than reading it. However, will this improve my vocabulary or nah?
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>or nah

Its not working.
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>>7820397
Why would I want to be formal on 4chan? Even when I'm asking such a simple question. I guess my transition from formal to informal within a sentence wasn't appropriate for you. Typical newfag.
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>>7820408
>why would i write in a decent manner in the literature board?

>if ambition is a shadow of a shadow, then kings and heroes are the shadows of beggars
What did he mean by this?
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>>7820032
Read it in context and it will make sense.
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>>7820059

HAMLET: Denmark's a prison.
ROSENCRANTZ: Then is the world one.
HAMLET: A goodly one; in which there are many confines, wards and dungeons, Denmark being one o' the worst.
ROSENCRANTZ: We think not so, my lord.
HAMLET: Why, then, 'tis none to you; for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so: to me it is a prison.
ROSENCRANTZ: Why then, your ambition makes it one; 'tis too narrow for your mind.
HAMLET: O God, I could be bounded in a nut shell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams.
GUILDENSTERN: Which dreams indeed are ambition, for the very substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream.
HAMLET:A dream itself is but a shadow.
ROSENCRANTZ:Truly, and I hold ambition of so airy and light a quality that it is but a shadow's shadow.
HAMLET:Then are our beggars bodies, and our monarchs and outstretched heroes the beggars' shadows. Shall we to the court? for, by my fay, I cannot reason.
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>>7820032
>What did he mean by this?
This should be an instaban phrase.

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i no longer see the light, brothers.
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Why not?
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arianna grande is average as hell tho
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>>7820300
agreed

I just started reading this book and I'll be honest I'm a little confused by what's going on. Is this normal or am I just a little slow?
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>>7819905
lel

fucking stupid-ass.
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Story is largely episodic and takes place out of chronological order. Give it a couple hundred pages to figure out what Heller's doing and you should be fine. For now just laugh.
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>>7819934
Makes sense. Thanks anon.

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Holden's question "Where do the ducks in central park go?" is a typical picaresque device used as a sort of touchstone/litmus test/barometer for the personality that the picaro uses to gauge the personality/sociableness/temperament of the characters that he is interacting with.

Interesting no? I love this book.
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and people wonder why literature is dead...
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reddit general?
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>>7819900
>Holden's question "Where do the ducks in central park go?" is a typical picaresque device used as a sort of touchstone/litmus test/barometer for the personality that the picaro uses to gauge the personality/sociableness/temperament of the characters that he is interacting with.
>Holden stabs the ducks
wat?

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>anon, you are a writer why don't you write me something for my birthday? :D
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>>7819787
God I wish people asked me this.
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>>7819787
roses are red
violets are blue
i wanted to be a botanist
and fuck literature
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>telling people that you write

He ends his short treatise with an appeal to ART as a means of achieving poiesis via "revealing." But who takes the fine arts seriously today? If art can no longer save us from our own enframing, are we condemned to forever be a standing-reserve?
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Nobody ever cared about the fine arts
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dourownhomework.midi
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Heidegger does not appeal to fine art only.
His definition of art is actually Rock solid.
Go read his essay in 'poetry language thought' about what a work of art means.
It both smashes most modern art, and leaves a space for good modern art. Heidegger my nigger

What your favorite Shakespearean performances? I really enjoy BBC Radio productions. What are your definitive versions? Of any Shakespearean play?
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I'm unfamiliar with radio productions and I dislike modern staging and performances.

My list:
Magee as Lear.

Heston as Antony.

Lapotaire as Cleopatra.

Burton as Petruchio and Taylor as Katharina.

Branagh as Hamlet (no error there).

Zefferelli's casting is almost always correct.

I've never seen a good rendering of Midsummer Night's Dream.
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Initially I had no patience for Patrick Magee in the role of Lear, and hated Charlton Heston in the role of Antony... I thought Heston lacked dignity and clout, and couldn't fathom the credibility he was accorded... but really that was the point.

Branagh's Hamlet initially seemed too modern, too comfortable, and too clownish, too much like Bart Simpson as Hamlet...but I think he really nailed it. It's too light, but his acting does convey someone who is deeply meditative, who manages to graft a notion onto others.
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Pacino as Shylock was quite good, but the rest of the actors were seemingly cast for their non-descript nature in order to make Pacino seem more like the lead of the play.

The direction also didn't grab me, there are tantalizing views, but there is no smooth form of camera movement through the landscape or architecture, it's shot almost like a cop drama with people just getting in each other's faces, so it doesn't actually convey the highly formal nature of the setting.

>Work
>Get home to cramped apartment
>Kids running around outside because summer
>Next door neighbors playing music, shouting
>Kids bumping into furniture nextdoor until midnight
>Put on headphones and attempt to zone out and write
Do you have an ideal type of writing location/time/mental state? Share them.
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>>7819069
How about you discipline your children? What the fuck man, you shouldn't have to leave your own house just to get some peace and quiet.
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>>7819087
I'm single. I have no kids.
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>>7819069
I feel ya OP, in summer there are always insolent little fucks running around the road screaming, I just yell out the window at them and they don't come running past the house again for the rest of the day. Are there any nice libraries in your area? Guaranteed quiet and nice to be in as long as the actual library has a nice working environment.

Books that have this theme? Fiction or Non-Fiction
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>>7819054
ayn rand
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prince
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>>7819463
>>>/discorsi/

Prince is such a plebby recommendation in comparison.

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What books are essential spookwave?
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>>7818716
*tips fedora* etc
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>>7818719
that's a big book
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>>7818725
>2016
>baneposting

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Where do I start with Lacan?
Non French speaker, have read a bit of Zizek and feel interested in Lacan, but have heard that his introduction is insubstantial. Any recommendations or maze charts?
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>>7818712
Here you go:
http://sci-hub.io/doi/10.2307/20099889

But to understand Lacan you have to read some foucault, freud, and zizek. And to get zizek you have to read hegal. Have fun.
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>>7818712
fucking policenauts
I need to finish it
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Start with the Seminars. Move on to Ecrits. Also check out Lacanian Ink.

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It always seems the discussion on russian literature ends with the stalinist era, Kharms maybe named last. Has "russian literature" as a distinct school disappeared? Are there any interesting russian authors in the post-war period? I only know about pic related, the Strugatskys and that one New Right dude.
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Check the archive. Plenty of names to look into.
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Bayan Shiryanov, I tell you.
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>>7818589
I was hoping this could lead to an edifying discussion as well as pushing one meta thread more out of page 10, hence the question of whether the idea of a "russian school" is still viable.

Who here begins a writing session warming up, like just writing something unrelated to what you're working on, getting in the mood, etc.? Who here just jumps right in?

It's about halfway through writing something that I start to feel a groove.
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I just stare at blank paper until I hate myself, write something bad, give up. done for the day.
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>>7818549
/thread/
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I've always jumped right in, but the idea of a warm up is intriguing. The closest I get is reading over my work from the previous day--it helps me get into a consistent mindset for whatever it is I'm working on, especially if it's a longer piece.

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