Should I bother?
i have this book. it's a fun read and nothing special but nothing stupid either
I read The Thin Red Line a long time ago, the author is something else, you should see an interview of him, he's been through some shit. It was a good book too as his firsthand experiences in his writing is pretty intense.
>>7590254
Yes. Not a pretty prose guy, but he knows what he's talking about and he led an interesting life.
I don't understand the significance of culture, such as literaute and art. Paintings, sculptures and old books gives me absolutely nothing and I think it's the same for 99.9% of all people. Why are creations of this culture (i.e Mona Lisa) so revered?
>why so revered
obviously more than .1% of people think as you do then.
>>7590213
Because they're touchstones that future generations will be able to look at to understand the history surrounding that work of art
Because you're autistic or are so sheltered and dead inside your sense of reality has totally atrophied after years of vidya and anime that nothing moves you on a deeper level than "oh shit steam is having a sale today!" anymore
Live life, go outside, hike in the cold, love and get your heart broken, let the primal experience of life butch slap you back to reality. Know what it is to live and live tragically
What are your thoughts on this little fellow? His usual themes are the relation between biology and psychology, which are all based in the idea that living beings are "autopoietic structures".
Btw he was nominated to the nobel for his groundbreaking work. Why haven't you read him /lit/?
seems cool. provide a pic based infographic on what i should or shouldn't read about/by him
otherwise fuck off
What is an autopoietic structure? Sounds interesting
>>7590353
Basically, it's a structurally defined system that produce itself and it's adapted to an environment.
This is the conceptual base to Maturana's argumentation about almost anything. The best thing is that in his books he quotes studies that affirm his possition. It's not just philosophical mumbo jumbo.
>>7590345
Start with "the three of knowledge".
I'd like to read about Jung. Where should I start? Keep in mind that I have no formal background in psychology.
>>7590154
http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Jung/types.htm
>>7590161
Thanks. Maybe I should also note that I am particularly interested in his ideas on human culture and the collective unconscious
>>7590176
Man and His Symbols, I think. He wrote it specifically to be a general overview of his work for a neophyte, so you could read it and drill down from there.
ITT: phrases used by pseuds
>reconcile [idea x] with [idea y]
>IQ
>leftist
>sjw
>natural
dank
>Bourgeoisie Affectations
>Human Nature
>kek
I'm bored /lit/, so if you want you can read the first three pages of the fantasy book in writing.
Also General fantasy thread I suppose?
God damn I'm an idiot, here's the pages
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f4vyIyyXfYSRP2W0qsb0Qv3auo09JpG05q4Xf9FdTSA/mobilebasic
>reads fantasy
>can't even write out an OP post
figures.
Okay /lit/, what works do I have to read and in what order from this Prussian pretty boy?
To go in hard? Or just enough to be ready?
>>7590046
I've read all the major 17th and 18th century philosophers before him ending with Hume. Though I do admit that I haven't read any philosophical work since then, which was late September I think.
>>7590080
you'll probably be fine, knowing Plato never hurts but otherwise just do it
>"Having been brought so far by language, Walt [Whitman] came to realize he could go no further unless he ventured beyond language, which would be the death of poetry."
-Bloom
As I read this I imagine Whitman as someone growing up in the 21st century. Wanting to be beyond language, wouldn't he have been a visual artist directing little indie movies?
Lit vs Vis art thread?
I don't know about poetry, but I'd say that the main advantage prose literature has over visual art is the its psychological aspects. Its ability to give the reader an in-depth look into the mind of its characters. While film can achieve this as well, I don't think it can do it nearly as well as it's done in writing. And of course neither can painting or sculpting, or whatever achieve these psychological aspects.
i've had enough of all this gassposting
what about dfw?
The aural transcends both
![921169_090331203129_The_shipkiller[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nbaHWaN.jpg "921169 090331203129 The shipkiller[1]")
I'm yet to find anyone else who has read this fantastic novel
This actually sounds pretty good. Thanks, OP.
Any recommendations for literature and philosophy concerning the overcoming of fear?
The Holy Bible my good man.
Does anyone here have an opinion on this? I'm considering investing some time in Anthony Burgess' less popularized material.
I love Burgess, think he was an incredible intellect, yet somehow the man's novels are the very definition of middlebrow.
Who's read this & wants to talk about it? Finished it yesterday. Overall... it was good. Some of it was just not fun in any way to read, only amusing to think about as a construct, which in some ways may have been the point. But the first half (everything through the title story) was, in my opinion, damn close to flawless.
Also... talk about a good book cover.
I've posted in a couple threads about this recently.
I thought it was good. There were some neat ideas. Some poor executions.
The actual story, Lost in the Funhouse, was the highlight of the book. So, for the 'average reader,' I'd only recommend the one story. Maybe Night-Sea Journey as well, for the clever 'twist.'
For a reader who is interested in literature for its own sake, I'd say read the whole thing to see a good and highly-praised piece of early (?) Post-Modernism. Or something like that.
Would also help to have read The Illiad first so the last two stories don't test your patience too much.
>>7589892
I read something interesting about this being Barth's response to Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, following the development of the artist/authorial-presence, from spermatozoon (primordial) and then the more conventional style of ambrose his mark, progressing up to lost in the funhouse, and then becoming increasingly metafictional until Anonymiad where the author disappears altogether into the text, becomes a disembodied voice.
But personally the Greek stuff I found sort of boring, if only structurally interesting. It would have been much cooler to see Ambrose one more time close to the ending.
Where to start with this semen demon?
Baron in the Trees for sure. Great balance between his weirdest stuff and his simple stories, and it's just his best overall book for entertainment value.
>>7589734
The Cosmicomics - awesome collection of short stories
If On A Winters Night A Traveller - best/most popular novella
>>7589734
>Where to start with this semen demon, and why is it Cosmicomics?
ftfy
Chabon doesnt ever get discussed here. Kavalier and Clay was what got me into literature you guys. Who will be the first brave anon to denounce me a donkey-brained pleb
OP, you monkey-drained bleb
never heard of daniel woodrell - is this a decent place to start?
