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why does /lit/ hate young adults books so much? is it because they're not "smart" enough or too "immature" but isn't /lit/ itself filled with pseudo-intelligent teens thinking that they're smarter than the greeks?
Can /lit/ give me a good argument why someone can't enjoy reading good fictions that they like or why classics is the only acceptable form of literature ? I bet you're just ignorant snobs who think you're better than everybody else.
i enjoyed this book and i'm not and won't be ashamed
>>7790567
Fantasy/science fiction fag here.
I don't hate Young Adult Literature books but I lost touch with them after, well, I stopped being a young adult.
I fondly remember Harry Potter, Artemis Fowl, Abhorsen, Seventh Tower, and several other YA books. I don't retroactively hate them because I'm "smarter" now or whatever. I reread them every now and then for nostalgia.
Most of the genre fiction I read these days, is, well, for people in my age demographic.
A YA book would probably have to either have Harry Potter levels of hype behind it to get me to check it out (Hunger Games, Twilight, and The Fault in Our Stars aren't nearly as big pop culture phenomenons as Harry Potter) or a really interesting concept behind it (Hunger Games sounds like a boring world compared to the worlds in Mieville's books)
>>7790567
If I had to guess, I would say it's the laziness with which it's written that is insulting.
Take for example Twilight, or worse, 50 shades of grey. I'm guessing that you hate those things.
Just imagine that ALL YA is like that to /lit/, and now you understand.
What's the Fault in the Stars really about? "Bad things happen and you can't do anything about it"? That's a lame idea for a book.
what writers are there that portray 21st century life?
I'm not talkin Great American Novel shit, just someone who writes about whats going on in a pessimistic, anecdotal way, like Bukowski did
There are fuckloads like Towel Inn, the problem is just that they aren't any good. It's easy enough to write
>rolled out of bed
>with nothing to do
>but play global offensive
>and post online about jews
-- the 4chan years
and call it a poem about gen-z angst or whatever, but actually elevating it to quality literature hasn't been done yet
>>7790552
Elliot Rodger. it isn't great literature, but its very telling when a complete autist is more honest about the soul-sucking banality of modern life than any respected authors would even dare to be
>>7790583
Hoellebecq
>reading pic related
>continually asking myself: what did he mean by this?
i don't get this book
Its about stories.....
I don't get a lot of it either. I think much of it is just wonderous and beautiful without knowing exactly what Calvino is trying to say.
It's about cities which can't be seen...
How does /lit/ view The Things They Carried? It made me cry in a good way.
>>7790526
Loved it OP. It was a very interesting and fun read. One of my favorite parts was when that kid wrote to his best friend's sister and she never writes back. It was nice seeing how the author wrote in a way that showed how you feel is truer than the truth and what actually happened.
>>7790526
It's the only short story I enjoyed in English lit. Wasn't overly pretentious, felt real and I had to put a lot of effort into controlling my facial muscles to avoid crying in class.
>>7790672
*It was
![41YjMnlq0CL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NDTymNE.jpg "41YjMnlq0CL. SX331 BO1,204,203,200 [1]")
How hard is this for a French learner to read in French?
>>7790514
Impossible to know if we don't know first what is your level of french
>>7790595
Two years of classes. English is my first language btw.
I'm curious to know some good books to improve my french with as well. I'm finishing up my second semester of french. I've heard Camus' prose is very simple, would that be a good place to look?
Why are some people so into the deep 'lore' of franchises like Star Wars, Marvel, etc.? And why do they love talking about and sharing it with others so much? Also, what's with that thing some people do where they seem to talk all about 'I know this movie or thing isn't that deep or emotional, but it has all of these explosions and samurais and swords and shit and it's so fucking cool OMG'?
I'm slightly like that, but I have many universes that I've immersed myself in over the years, so I don't have any single all consuming obsession with anything. It's the ultimate pursuit of escapism, to fully construct a world of fantasy in your mind. It's very stimulating. I have tact when sharing that kind of stuff with people, but I do enjoy those kinds of conversations when I find someone equally interested. It's like the adventure is renewed when I'm sharing it with others
I don't understand the second type of person you're describing though, but I also feel like depth can be found even in the most outwardly simplistic movies if you have eyes to see it.
>>7790476
pop culture has become a form of mass produced mythology. Unlike organic folklore, these myths are micromanaged by a few corporate entities. They are free to push their ideological implications on our collective psyche and there's no much we can do about it.
>>7790520
In a way, the fantasy universes of Marvel comics and Star Wars represent a rediscovery of pre-autorship and pre-literate myth-making, but they are also very limited because in the end, they are simply a tool engineered to sell knicknacks and movie tickets
Alright /lit/, I am aware that there is some sort of meme opinion about this book, I don't know what that opinion or stereotype is, but I just finished it and thought it was incredible. What should I read in order to more fully appreciate it on my second read-through? I've heard Brothers Karamazov and Hamlet both are related to IJ somehow. Others?
read it again
>>7790462
I really really want to but at the same time just the thought of picking it up again makes me tired
>>7790491
it's a book that literally demands you re-read it
make The Simpsons /lit/
https://frinkiac.com/
But the Simpsons is already /lit/!
>read 11/22/63
>my first Stephen King book
it was boring, and somehow considered a "thriller"
i wanted to read the shining and the dark tower series, but i assume they'll be shit too. what do?
>>7790407
they are shit.
Stephen King sits somewhere in between pulp and real literature. He's not exactly the former, but definately not the latter.
If that's what you like, however, I'd direct you towards Carrie, The Shining, Misery, and It.
>>7790471
>Stephen King sits somewhere in between pulp and real literature.
What about King's writing style brings him closer to pulp? Just asking. I read The Shining, and don't really understand the elements of fine writing.
>>7790407
actually the Dark Tower series is pretty dope. Books 1-4 are great, 5 is kinda meh, 6 is meh in the first half but it picks up again in the 2nd. I've got mixed feelings about the 7th desu senpai. As for the Shining, you're better off watching the movie. The book is alright, but Kubrick blows that shit outta the water
When looking for this at the library I could only find it in audiobook form. With 31 compact disics a grand total of 39 hours long.
Is this okay? To listen to this book or do I need to read it to get it?
>>7790377
>do I need to read it to get it?
you don't need to do anything. do you want to engage with the written word? read. are you in the mood for some storytelling? listen
dumb question dummy
>>7790393
I'm sorry, the book has a reputation.
I'm not dumb rude Anon.
Do you want to read 300+ pages of detailed murders or listen?
Well worth the experience either way. Great book.
Lets get one of these threads going
>>7790366
Watching the Soderbergh adaptation doesn't count, OP.
>>7790437
>Watching
...
How does The Monkey Wrench Gang portray contemporary America?
>>7790358
Well, it really doesn't anymore, but it portrays the era it was written in pretty well.
>>7790358
How do I know OP is trying to get us to do his 300 word reading response for him?
>>7790358
Hayduke Lives is better
Would you replace a book if the first third was wrinkled from water damage but it was perfectly legible?
Stupid question.
No. I only keep books to read them.
>>7790343
I buy used books, so me being picky would be kind of retarded.
How does /lit/ feel about this book? What books in its genre are better?
It felt contrived.
I enjoyed it. I liked his other book, Dermaphoria as well. As for recommendations Have you tried the Kiss Me Judas trilogy?
For the ones that understand korean, what book is this one on pic related?
name: 리진
Found it http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15848978-li-chin
If anyone interested
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![11-22-63-book-cover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WPJQRzm.jpg "11-22-63-book-cover[1]")
