What does /lit/ think of the Brat Pack? And is there a comparable new group of young writers?
>>7791176
Other than BEE I never even heard of them, and I think he's a hack so if the rest are anything like him they're shite too.
They're pretty good. Jay is better than brett
Anyone read Tammy?
I will start writing a book today.
And I will get it published.
>>7791162
Make it about these epik dooobs.
>>7791166
Woahh
>>7791166
Nice doobs
Poetry thread.
Critique if you want, or just write of you want.
No words Spoken in hard truth
Evaded the setting of my youth
When all that seemed was
And then there was a cause
To be better, to be true
To be more than you,
But as time played its
Fateful tricks and
The path seemed stricken with
Obstacles of unknown cause
Coupled with maturity's pause
Of if and what and how
Paralyzed the now .
And moving forth into
What could've been
And what is true
There is one constant
To be found,
It is me,...
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Over the backyard fence,
Where wonder waited
To transform trees to warriors;
But as I grew taller,
The fence seemed smaller,
And no longer
Could wonder suffice.
We sang obscenities underneath
The up-turned sprinkler
In our summer fort,
Believing we were sinking
In some Great War.
But she told on us,
And requiem turned
To what is.
I waited to know, to feel
What was truly real
Between the Ads and fads
Which pulled at my strings and
Never settled to perfect tune
But who am I to presume
That I know more or better
Than any other begetter
For truth hides
In our sacred lies.
What can /lit/ tell me bout this poem? I got my own interpretation and I'll write it later prob. What poems do you guys recommend for no native english speaker?
1. It's about an Irish pilot
2. He believes he'll die while flying
3. He's fighting some kind of war, but isn't invested
4. He identifies more with people from his home parish (Kiltartan) than Ireland as a whole
5. He rejects nationalism thus; he stands with the poor and the neglected
6. He doesn't think the war matters to his folk
7. Yet he chose to become a pilot anyway because, YOLO
8. Life seems pointless to this intelligent, nihilistic young man
You may quote me.
What are the best manifestos to read if you are looking for literary value? I intend on starting an uprising, brewing a revolution, commencing a revolt and need to see the type of tone I should borrow from.
lol define "literary value"
Has anyone ITT recommended a little something called My Twisted World yet?
Written by one of the most incendiary minds of the 21st century, its scintillating critique of contemporary womanhood has left a fist-shaped hole in the feminist movement.
http://www.altx.com/manifestos/avant.pop.manifesto.html
Is there a way to interpret fiction better? I've recently read pic related, and while I could feel what the main themes of the story are, I still couldn't tell what all those symbols mean.
Where does /lit/ download/pirate your audiobooks?
audiobook bay
>stealing books
Just buy them you criminal!
>>7790888
myanonamous
So I just finished reading The Deerslayer, and overall I enjoyed it. However, aside from the ending seeming to me to be rather abrupt, my main complaint with the book as of right now is how unfinished Judith and Natty Bumppo's relationship feels. Like what the actual fuck? There was so much buildup throughout the entire text only to result in some kind of deranged reverse friend-zone. If anyone could enlighten me as to whether or not I've missed a detail that would cause me to think it as such, or confirm that their relation is unfinished and shitty, I would appreciate...
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what's up with all of the fag talk? nobody here reads lol reading is a spook
Here's something you missed: nobody here reads anything but the 20th century pomo fiction and philosophy
Please help me, /lit/
I have been flip-flopping between writing in the first and third person for a short story
I essentially have two first drafts, and now I need to choose or I'm never going to make progress
Here's the beginning of the story in both first and third person:
http://pastebin.com/raw/TL5ZDpzC
Personally, I'm leaning towardsthird personright now (but I've gone back-and-forth several times)
I have no writing group to help me. I've always tried to offer good critiques and advice here.
Does...
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>>7790802
I'd go with first person if you want to maintain a sense of intimacy. If you want that distant commentary style stick with third.
Why not both?
>>7790802
It all depends on where you're going with this, in third person it seems more cynical, ironic, the narrator has this detached quality, as if the particular, humane qualities of the character aren't of immediate importance compared to the greater point he's trying to make with the story, and in first person there's a similar detachment, but one which makes the character sound humble, as someone who sees himself as unimportant. It also sounds as if he's distant from himself or from a meaningful life.
Anything like this?
Lovecraft?
>>7790788
A Study in Emerald is a a short story featuring a Sherlock holmes/Lovecraft crossover.
>>7790788
who is this erections fairy?
what is the unshakable ennui of books
Peterson is based as fuck
Jungfag here. I've read enough of Jung (including his earlier papers with Freud's work). My question is, is Freud not too outmoded to be worth a read? If so, which papers ad/or books would you suggest?
>>7790749
He was wrong about many things but that doesn't make him less important.
Civilization and Its Discontents
The Interpretation of Dreams
Beyond the Pleasure Principle
>>7790749
reading Jung and not reading Freud is like watching the goodfather 3, without watching The goodfather 1.
What book would you like to see told from another character's perspective? For me it's probably Smeagol in the LOTR trilogy. You?
>>7790719
The Odyssey, Penelope's POV.
Some feminist will do this one day, and won't be that bad if done well. If the feminist is a decent historian, she can fill in the 12 year gap that Odysseus is gone for.
>>7790728
It's not something a feminist could do, to be honest. The interval between Odyssey's departure and his return is essentially a society without its men, and the consequence is the subsequent generation lack discipline and virtue. They're either rowdy and cruel or timid and weak. It's not something a feminist could write. It's not something a feminist could admit. They'd have to change it to the women of Ithaca creating a utopia of peace and compassion without men. It'd be ruined by...
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>>7790728
Margaret Atwood - Penelopiad.
Is she right /lit/? Is deconstructionism a pile of bullshit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRgvfruhPo
>>7790591
Derrida= Bluepill Jew Heidegger
>>7790599
>this meme again
>>7790591
There's nothing she says that I wildly disagree with.
Recs for really good, underground poets?
pic not really but kind of related
acquire the acmeists