Post books you expected to hate, but ended up loving.
opposite for me
i was expecting some kind of borges or umberto eco literary detective story
instead i got edgy mexican kerouac
>>7981864
Umberto Eco was Spanish Dan Brown.
>>7982164
Or maybe Italian Dan Brown, I don't remember that fedora tippers nationality.
What's the literary equivalent to *holds up spork*?
>>7980889
Fanfiction
gravitys rainbow tbhfam
Do you really need to read the 2nd half of pic related? I enjoyed the aesthetic part, but I'm about 30 pages into the marriage section and find it to be an incredible slog with no end in sight. That's probably the point of the ethical portion, but I have no interest in indulging in it.
>>7980878
You don't need to read it. In fact, you are not obliged to read nothing at all. Do whatever you want.
>>7980957
This, feel free to put down a book whenever you like.
*kisses you tenderly*
>>7980878
felt the same. 1st part is more enjoying but I'd recommend you to read the entire book. It makes sens only as a whole. I believe the message lies beyond the dichotomy
i love poetry. i think its the greatest artform, the one that comes closest to capturing the human condition while also being aesthetically pleasing by itself. i love it so much that i try to get my friends and family to read it too, because theres a poet for every walk of life to fall in love with for one reason or another, whether it be Bukowski or Shakespeare or Yeats. I dont care if the poet is shit or one of the greats, i just want them to get the same joy and see the same beauty from it as i do.
My question is: is this a good thing, or just really pretentious and self-righteous? Should i go around recommending bad writers, or forget about the academic elitism and introduce them to anyone they might relate to? These people dont read at all so its not like its hurting them anyway right?
>whether it be Bukoswki Shakespeare or Yeats
>I don't care if the poet is shit or one of the greats
Poetry
>>7980861
He's like a shitty bookstore employee who just has to sell something, anything, to every fucking idiot.
you love poetry because the one time you ever felt part of a group was among poets. they validated your self-image for perhaps half an hour and your brain took an imprint on this.
you could just as well have been out shooting squirrels with a different group of people, and you'd now be saying "I love guns. i think hunting is the greatest artform, the one that comes closed to capturing the human condition while also being aesthetically pleasing by itself."
the sad part is, trapped inside this imprint, it's going to take you years to work out that poetry is just a thing. it's not THE thing. there are thousands of things out there, and poetry is just the thing you fall into.
What themes does /lit/ like in their fictional literature?
how humanity deals with the apparent meaningless of life and the universe.
>>7980859
What fictional literature did you read that contained themes of that?
>>7980857
depression and the soul crippling tedium of human existence
Write a story based on this image.
>>7980780
why do you always post this
/lit/ trivia time
What author is a descendant of this man?
Frank Zappa
>>7980777
Arthur Miller
>>7980790
No.
Should everyone just start with this book?Yes
just wondering what are your thoughts on the books in the series
I enjoyed the first one but quit like halfway through the 3rd book should I give it another try?
>>7980737
>tfw when I haven't finished it, but I like it so much that I had to post on /lit/
>>7980737
I read the series nearly ten years ago, so I don’t remember it too well, but from what I remember it becomes somewhat meandering and soon loses any semblance of plot it had, until it’s found again in the final book. That said, they are rather short, so if you enjoy them you might as well read them alll.
The other thread is dying, so
Poetry Critique thread
>>7980731
The other thread is higher than yours and isn't even half filled.
>sage
I saved your poem and I'm going to publish it in a book of other stolen poems from threads like these and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>7980817
What's it called?
Novels that end with the protagonist or a main character becoming 'broken' or greatly more cynical?
Thinking along the lines of Full Metal Jacket here, if that helps.
1984
South of the Border, West of the Sun
Anna Karenina (Vronsky)
Disgrace
Gravity's Rainbow (Slothrop, not sure this is quite what you're going for though)
The Brothers Karamazov and The Idiot
>>7980688
People always mock 1984 for being "entry-level" or a high school book but personally I found the protagonist's time in the ministry of truth horrifying and really powerful.
The ending as well was oddly emotional in its own way
What the ~HECK~ is this book? It is called "INFINITE JETS" but there is not a single aircraft within, in fact the book is about people on land with drugs problems. THIS IS A BAIT AND SWITCH. I guess the ~JETS~ could be describing how the characters get "HIGH" but in my opinion this is just a cheap trick to sell this book to avid fans of AERONAUTICS such as myself.
I collect books like "JANE'S" which show many jets and describe the jets so obviously a ~HEAVY TOME~ named "INFINITE JETS" should satisfy my jet needs for at least a few months. But no, no jets at all. Just tennis and complaining. The book contains many 'end-notes' but none of them are about jets either.
This book is something like eight thousand pages and has no pictures at all. The author seems to think he is a ~BIG SMARTIE~ but he is not a prophet he seems like a dumb POTHEAD, and also he obviously knows NOTHING about jets.
I would not recommend you purchase this book unless you hate jets. There are many other, better, books about jet planes and most of them are NOT named so misleadingly.
Mr. Foster Wallace -- I want my money back.
>>7980641
How do you actually get bored to the point of writing this
>>7980641
7/10
inb4 this thread takes off
get it?
Who /Clancy/ here?
Why does /lit/ think he's pleb?
>>7980628
Even the rightwing minority here don't strike me as warhawks of the American sort.
He's more remembered as that guy who makes money off of games.
So the e/lit/ists categorize him "pleb"
Personally, I couldn't get through Debt of Honor. lost interest.
I think his books would be far better if he cut out the filler.
>>7980727
But then he wouldn't have books
How does /lit/ feel about this?
>>7980595
why don't you tell us what you feel about it first you lazy turd
>>7980612
It's alright so far, just not sure if I should get invested in it
Ask in the containment thread.
I've just finished pic related and I think it's his best work, much better and more mature than IJ. The Chris Fogle chapter is along with Good Old Neon the best thing I've ever read by Wallace and maybe even among the best things I've ever read in general. When he spoke about his father and discovered that he might have been not as stiff and empty as he always imagined him to be I nearly cried. I swear.I'm Writer
Immediately after I've finished the book, I read the notes DFW left and it's too sad that he couldn't finish it, especially the relationship between Meredith Rand, her husband and this autist could have become extremely interesting.
What were your favorite chapters and how did you like the book? And can anyone tell me 1) what this paranormal levitating and phantom shit was about and 2) who this grumpy and sad kid in the look back in chapter 23 was?
My favorite chapter was the one I've told to another anon at the DFW thread created 15 mins ago. The two questions you're asking though, I answered them at that 3 hours old DFW thread (not the first one!). I'm confused, so many DFWs!
>>7980592
The Toni Ware introduction, Chris Fogle introduction, and the "metafictional titty-pinching" is all great.
I'm actually still reading it right now but it definitely has the potential to unthrone IJ for me. Unfortunately, I think it's unfinished state might prevent it from crossing that threshold.
The chapter with the young couple at the lake is my favorite.
Who are some good fat authors?
>>7980473
Alexander "Wine and dine then bum a ho so fine" Kielland.
Samuel Johnson and G. K. Chesterton immediately come to mind. Balzac looks quite heavy in his photos, as does Dumas.
>>7980473
Rex Stout for fiction
Edward Gibbon for non fic