Herodotus' The Histories is one of the most books I've ever read. While being a mixed bag including laborious descriptions of cultural practices, the stories and events recorded in The Histories are some of the most engaging I've never read.
But Thucydides has been a drag from start to finish. The speeches are incredible, but other than that, there's very little enjoyable or interesting about History of the Peloponnesian War.
If you've read Thucydides, what did you enjoy about him? Did you also Herodotus too? If so, more or less?
>one of the most books I've ever read
>the most books I've
>most books
It is the most book of all books.
>>7495386
It's political philosophy with a focus on trying to determine what can be learned from the events of the war between Athens and Sparta--it's not really supposed to be entertaining, but strictly educational and philosophical.
From what I read Thucy is notoriously hard to read. That's why I asked for the Landmark edition for Christmas. It's got pictures and shit.
This book is terrifying. How did you get through it?
One dreary page at a time
Act 3 is shit, acts 1 and 2 were GOAT.
Women and plot ruin everything.
Does the author actually expect me to read the dumb bullshit pages or am I supposed to skip them
youre a fucking idiot dude
He shouldn't have ever written it
>>7494780
the way to read this (piece of shit) is to treat is as several separate stories and read them one by one. It's a combination of those choose your own adventure books and meta-reading, where you need to twist and turn the book, flick backwards and forwards, strain your eyes etc.
It's a garbage book though I wouldn't bother.
Just finished Sons and Lovers... What does /lit/ think of DH Lawrence?
He wrote Lady Chatterley's Lover.
Sons and Lovers was pretty steamy for a book that came out in 1913.
>>7494428
I't the only book I've read by Lawrence, and I loved it. The part at the hospital where Baxter admits why he started fight with Paul was filled with pure feels.
I want to get one of these. I am looking at the 80 dollar version. I basically just want to get it to use pdf files on it, because I can get those for free. Is it worth it? I like that it has that battery life, my 3g ipad doesn't last a week on one charge, it only lasts like a day.
Kindles suck for pdfs
It's great that you're considering an e reader.
maybe not Kindle...... Unless you like DRM.
keep on saving paper though
>>7493445
>DRM
explain?
Litizens of Lit York
We post our favourite authors and their works we feel should be read in the order of our preferation. And lets include an optional section aswell. Positive critique is allowed on others' comments but lets stay away from the negative.
I shall lead by example
Dostoyevsky
>Notes
>C&P
>Idiot
>Demons
>TBK
Optional: Poor folk, The double, The gamlber, The eternal husband, house of the dead and a writers diary.
Hermy Melville
>Bartleby
>Moby Dick
>Billy Budd
>Clarel
optional Pierre, Benito Cereno, Encantadas
>>7492676
Albert Camus
1. The Myth of Sisyphus
2. The Stranger
3. The Rebel
4. The Plague
5. The first man
If nothing else read the Myth of Sisyphus
>>7492686
Very good selection litrade, I do feel MD stands well on it's own but so do all masterpieces though so all in all a great addition.
>>7492712
I really want to get into Camus, haven't read him at all but he seems really interesting, did you feel you needed to read something before him to get an understanding of his philosophy?
What book should I give my dad this Christmas?
cliffs.
1. He is a 52 year old Lacanian psychoanalyst
2. He also studied philosophy, his main topics of expertise are Foucault, Freud and Lacan
3. His favorite books are The War of the End of the World by Vargas Llosa, 100 years of solitude, and War and Peace
4. He is also a sci-fi nerd, loves star trek but doesnt like star wars. His favorite books are Childhood's end and Songs of Distant Earth.
I really don't know what on earth I can give him. He's read shittons and shittons of books, I showed him every "/lit/ essential pack" I could find and he had already read like 90% of those books (also he got mad because every list was too anglo-oriented).
I was thinking maybe he doesn't know about, like Gravity's Rainbow or Infinite Jest. What do you think?
>>7491817
>He is also a sci-fi nerd
Dune.
a legacy of totalitarianism in a tundra
>>7491817
has he read house of leaves?
>>7490696
Story? Exodus, John, Samuel and Kings.
>>7490696
Most interesting to me was Acts.
Least is probably Numbers or Deuteronomy or something like that
>>7490696
Job :^)
write what's on your mind
Brave man unsure of their future, draged by the circunmstances but ready to proof themselfs.
Mexicanfag here, do not be to hard.
>>7485450
>the guy next to me vomited on my boots
>where are the french women
>they said we'd be eating bonbons
>I wanna go home
>this party has no mademoiselles
>are they listening to edith piaf? So 1939
>my feet hurt
wild turkey
Post your poems for discussion.
The Last Night:
A man sat by a table
And with effort so slight
Pulled two wires together
And then there was light.
What a sight, what a sight
The bulb glowed so bright
And in an instant he knew
That he had been right.
It was warm
Brilliant and white
Shadows and darkness cast out of sight.
The battle was over
The end of the fight
And mankind would welcome
With joy and delight
That man who brings the bulb to invite
The eternal day,
and the death of the night.
Were I man of more years,
And greater means
I would travel this world
By foot on land, and sail on sea
To learn what it is that I am.
I would walk in the woods,
And I would know the earth to be a living earth. And the sun to be a warm nurturing sun.
In my travels I would meet every kind of man and woman and child. And I would do as they do,
And feel as they feel,
And see as they see.
One day I would ask myself
just what are these creatures called humans?
And I would know the answer.
Were I to travel the world.
I would walk in the woods.
And i would feel the wind blow.
The kind sun would set on the good earth,
My eyes would close,
Peace would surround me,
and I would be at peace.
>he reads biographies
>he reads pop science or pop philosophy
>>7496997
>He reads 'literary fiction'
>He thinks he is 'above' pop culture
Is pop philosophy stuff like Candide/The Stranger/Anthem? Can someone recommend me more pop philosophy.
>>7497082
Nausea
Can a simple man write a great book?
>>7496850
never happend
None of us is simple.
Not none of us be simple.
I will be travelling long term in Europe soon, and I need a way to write easily
paper and pen sucks, because I can't read what I've written, and I hate carrying notebooks around for months
is there anyway to connect an e-reader with a wireless keyboard and write this way?
someone must have thought about this before right?
anyway, looking for alternatives to a laptop/tablet/surface
Why are all the threads pure shit at the moment?
Just get an used netbook, faggot
>>7496524
Finish first grade before entering Europe, then go with a paper and pen. (Is the problem reading or writing? or both?)
Did a mod or janitor delete the recent Aquinas thread, or was it just an autistic OP?
Are you actually no longer allowed to post philosophy here?
Do they really do it for free?
>>7495956
Bump
The 2nd question is especially pertinent
Why was the thread deleted? We were having an autistically dank discussion about Aquinas' status as a philosopher and epistemology
>>7496264
Why is philosophy easier to conflate with history than literature?
We aren't >>>/r/books
What the FUCK am I reading?
>>7495834
It's like the entirety of /b/ in writing with a /pol/ twist
>>7495864
Does this shit ever start to make sense? Have I been meme'd into thinking this is worth over 1000 pages of reading?
>>7495869
Pic related my face the first 25 or so pages of this
