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Hey /lit/
Engineering and science faggot here. I have a question: is there true value to a formal humanities education rather than reading and discussing the arts on your own.
I read quite a lot, the Greeks, Roman poems and plays (in latin), philosophy, modern, and even some post modern. I also visit opening days of art shows, the symphony, and some plays.
However, whenever I get into an argument about something with humanities students they always freak out and say I don't understand the value of studying with a professor.
I assert that the professor is actually a negative, because they will influence students either actively or passively.
What do you all think?
>Engineering and science faggot here.
>I have a question: is there true value to a formal humanities education rather than reading and discussing the arts on your own.
Humanities here. If you have a question than why didn't you end that sentence with a question mark?
>>8027380
What's this pic? It's cool.
NEW YORK — Thomas Pynchon, the influential author of such novels as Inherent Vice and Bleeding Edge, died today at 79. His death was ruled a suicide, with witnesses and police claiming the author slipped on a banana peel he'd placed in his own path. Mr. Pynchon was a veteran New Yorker. His novel Gravity's Rainbow won him the National Book Award in 1973.
>>8027371
You're sooooooooooooo gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>8027371
Fucking lost it
>>8027371
Pics or didn't happen
So i'm fairly young (18), and started off reading shitty YA novels (John Green, Patricia McCormack, Laurie Halse Anderson etc) and aside from a few books (gullivers travels, metamorphosis by kafka, the bell jar by sylvia plath & a couple other school-required books) I haven't gotten too deep into serious literature, though I want to. Currently reading Huck Finn, then gonna read Great expecations. Aside from the listed books in the sticky thread, what does /lit/ recommend to a young reader like myself?
>>8027377
>/lit/ is a slow board! Please take the time to read what others have written, and try to make thoughtful, well-written posts of your own. Bump replies are not necessary.
>>8027381
>bump
because im a rebel
>>8027382
best get reading this then
What is some good literature that features a gay protagonist or has themes of homosexuality?
>>8027353
Plato- Symposium
>>8027353
iliad
>>8027353
Confessions of a Mask
Forbidden Colours
Now go, go and read you lala homo prancing man.
I am 23 years old with steady full time employment, and was considering leaving the work force to rejoin the world of academia.
Honestly, it's mostly in hope of meeting like minded people who share my love of thinking and literature.
Is this enough of a reason to consider leaving my job?
(I already have a house which i have rented out which is paying for itself, so financially, I don't think I'll suffer too much)
>>8027347
what's wrong with the like minded people who share your love of thinking and literature here on 4chan?
>>8027351
I think he wants real people, like friends and stuff
>>8027351
Honestly, nothing.
But life is more than reading and sitting on your computer talking about books.
If /lit/ had some sort of mason-esque clubhouse, I'd be down every weekend. I just find it so difficult having reading/writing as a leading interest, because it's so difficult to find people who share something like that, especially when you're talking a specific literary scene and not like ya trash or asoiaf ect.
Continental philosophy will come to you in your sleep but only if you post "Sleep tight, Dark Enlightenment" in this thread.
N I C K / / L A N D
Nick Land on love (quote from The thirst for annihilation):
That the root of love is a thirst for disaster is exhibited throughout its erratic course. At its most elementary love is driven by a longing to be cruelly unrequited; fostering every kind of repellent self-abasement, awkwardness, and idiocy. /…/
One wastes away; expending health and finance in orgies of narcosis, breaking down one’s labour-power to the point of destitution, pouring one’s every thought into an abyss of consuming indifference. At the end of such a trajectory lies the final breakage of health, ruinous poverty, madness, and suicide.
Reza Negarestani on love (quote from Cyclonopedia):
Love empties all possibilities of recovery. Falling in love is a one way ticket to the end of health. Barthes suggests that love is cyclic. /…/ This cycle strikes me not as love but flirtation, flirtation with survival. /…/ But love’s sole enthusiasm lies in consuming every possibility of falling in love again. /…/ The Love-Recovery cycle that Barthes maps in his works is of course Proustian but deeply resembles the ever refining self-fertilizing cycle of Aristotle (nothing must be wasted as it is needed in the next phase of the cycle, the next love, the next recovery from the last love). /…/ Love is only thinkable as one and only one tyrannical possibility: falling in love once and for all.
the consummate bullshit artist
I prefer icycalm when it comes to ridiculous new-age rightist bullshit
>>8027258
>Pual Virilio
It's weird I keep stumbling across that guy's name
I read part of a book on anime (serious) that cited him heavily.
I considered using one of his books on war movies for paper
I think he has an epigraph in a Vollmann novel I read recently
And now this.
Conspiracy?
Help me decide which critical approaches I should take for my literature assignment? I have to use two critical theories and apply one to two of these short stories: Eudora Welty's "A Warn Path", Katherine Mansfield's "Miss Brill", Stephen Vincent Benet's "By the Waters of Babylon", Kate Chopin's "Story of the Hour", Willa Cather's "Paul's Case", Gabriel Marquez's "A Very Old Man with Enormous Wings"
These are my approach options: PERSIA Approach, Hero's Journey, Psychological (Freudian), Marxist, Spiritual, and Gender/Feminist.
I'm actually really hyped on discussing these with you guys, so thanks ahead of time.
Coming, Eudora!
>>8027233
anything but formalist approach is trash
this sounds really gay.
How do I become post modern?
>>8026824
I've never heard of any of those people. what is wire?
>>8026828
>hes never heard of dean blunt
>>8026828
wtf rock do you live under that you've never heard dean blunt
What does it mean to be in love /lit/?
You will never learn, OP.
Bad news.
wait until some edgy faggot comes in to explain to you how it's just the equivalent of eating chocolate to your brain
Just read Notes from Underground and enjoyed it. Reminds me if my dad because he can be a pretentious introverted autistic man. What boom character remind you of your family members? Also please recommend next Dostoyevsky book to read.
Does your dad pull ass?
>>8026643
If you've got daddy problems, brothers k and any Kafka is great for you
>>8026643
Go with D's Demons, m8.
/lit/ is a slow board, think before you decide to kill a thread by making a new one.
Need a book rec and too stupid to check the wiki? Ask here.
Have a banal question and can't use google? Ask here.
Have a question that you think won't generate much discussion? Ask here.
>>8026628
lol i fail by not putting /qtddtot/ in the subject field.
this is one step away from generals
Are the LOTR movies faithful representations of the books?
Going on a road trip to New York; are there any literary things I should do there?
>Dostoijevsky
>Dostoyevskii
Sterstlersky
>Dostojewsky
>Dostoevskij
>Tolstoj
>Chechov
>Gorkij
>Majakovskij
>Evtusenko
>Brodskij
Why did he knock the chair over? Was he fucking pissed off?
its a bar setting and Engels was probably just trying to make it seem like bar debate was ongoing
I think it just fell.
90% of the reason anyone knows about Stirner is because he looks fucking cool in that picture.
What should I expect?
There's literally no way a translation of M&D would be any good.
>>8026339
nothing since your not reading it in English. dumbass
Spanish words by a translator.
https://screwplato.wordpress.com/2010/10/15/ancient-greek-philosophy/
The link says out loud what we all know: that Greek philosophy was a load of assertions that are unfalsifiable and badly argued and generally shitty.
WHY do people pretend that the Munchhausen trilemma doesn't clearly show the triviality of philosophy? You can choose any axioms you fucking want and then make the logical deductions ffs.
>>8026181
I'd like to pretend that the Munchhausen trilemma doesn't clearly show the triviality of philosophy, but I don't know what that means.
>>8026181
>WHY do people pretend that the Munchhausen trilemma doesn't clearly show the triviality of philosophy
Because it's self evident, it's triviality doesn't needs to evidence. Still one of two fields I am interested in and will continue studying until I'm dead. Feels fine man.
>>8026181
The Munchhausen trilemma trivialized the whole pursuit of knowledge, not just philosophy.
