>You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘Infinite Jest’ is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.
>But Stephen King is Cervantes compared with David Foster Wallace. We have no standards left. Wallace seems to have been a very sincere and troubled person, but that doesn’t mean I have to endure reading him. I even resented the use of the term from Shakespeare, when Hamlet calls the king’s jester Yorick, ‘a fellow of infinite...
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Don't you know he changed his mind recently?
>I've been reading Infinite Jest all day, which has been totally enjoyable and I'm thinking about how easy it becomes to dehumanize the creator or fans of something extremely popular. I've done this, too. I made fun of Infinite Jest without even having read it. I'm sorry for that, and embarrased.
>When we make fun of Infinite Jest, we're ridiculing the enthusiasm people have for new sincerety. Have we nothing better to satirize? Yes, you can...
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>>7646650
>big ups
What did he mean by this?
Sorry, but reading this book doesn't make you smarter.
urrrdurrr
>>7646528
hurrrrrrr urrrrrrr guurrrrrr
No but what you have to say about the book does reflect well on the reader
Is this guy right or is he a fool?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0sspv5npis
His apparel answers.
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>>7646040
I liked his book Catholicism
>Starting with the Greeks
which one of you cuckolds keeps pushing this meme?
Start with Shakespeare not some pagans in robes.
>memespeare
fucking anglos i swear
yeah def dont start with the people that shakespeare borrowed all the ideas for his plays from
>>7645551
Shakespeare got (stole really) all of his plays from French playwrights and poems. He probably couldn't even read Greek or Latin.
Sorry for the pleb opinion, but I was wondering if you could help me find some books. I've been getting into military science fiction recently after reading Starship Troopers and The Forever War. I was wondering if there was any modern books that deal with themes from the US war in the middle east?
Not middle east but WW1, but you might want to check out Ernst Junger's Memoir "Storm of Steel"
>A memoir of astonishing power, savagery, and ashen lyricism,Storm of Steelilluminates not only the horrors but also the fascination of total war, seen through the eyes of an ordinary German soldier. Young, tough, patriotic, but also disturbingly self-aware, Jünger exulted in the Great War, which he saw not just as a great national conflict but—more importantly—as a unique personal struggle. Leading raiding parties, defending trenches...
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>>7645549
Thanks. I just started Old Man's War in the hopes that it would be a little bit more modern. I want to see how many military science fiction books I can find that have themes from all of the different major wars.
The Iliad - Homer
The Peloponnesian War - Thucydides
Anabasis - Xenophon
Anabasis of Alexander - Arrian
The Gallic War - Julius Caesar
So /lit/, tell me about your cringeiest Barnes & Nobles experiences.
I puked inside a B&N 5 years ago. It wasn't a lot of puke, just about 100 cc. Nobody noticed it though. I just walked out. I was very young then, so I was completely terrified that the authorities would try to catch me using the DNA from my vomit. I couldn't sleep that night.
>be me
>walk into Barnes and Noble
>ask bookseller where the philosophy section is
>bookseller points to a sign labeled 'philosophy' covered in cobwebs and dripping with blood
>only book available is Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit
>ask the bookseller if he has any Intro philosophy in the back
>tell him that I like aphorisms with my coffee...
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>>7644956
I kek'd
What was the most difficult book you've ever read?
Ulysses.
>>7642022
some shit on film by Deleuze
Gravity's Rainbow. It took me a few months after reading it before it finally "clicked."
Write something in the style of an author. Others guess who it is supposed to be.
god damn i'd marry that girl
but i know she is reading YA so i actually wouldnt
but god damn i would
And but so then from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by Tyrone Slothrop, who sez
—You buy Furniture. You tell Yourself, this is the last Sofa I will ever need in my Life. Buy the Sofa, then for a couple years you're satisfied that no matter What-Goes-Wrong, at least you've got your Sofa "issue" "handled". Then the right set of Dishes. Then the Perfect Bed. The Drapes. The Rug. Then you're trapped in "your" lovely Nest, and the things you used to own (the fatta the lan'), now they own You.
>Cliches are cliches because cliches are cliched and that sound cliche and banal. Tennis.
>>7646997
Hell yes, I forgot about this book till now. Was a favorite in high school and I recommended it to all the kids who got loked out over 1984 but I don't they any of them ever read it..
>>7646997
It's a great book. One of the best science-ficiton novels of all time.
how can so little be accomplished in 2000 plus pages? did I really need several hundred pages of Brandon Sanderson's ginger witty waifu being an annoying cunt?
Sanderson is a hack.
My shitty excuse is that I'm taking a writing class and I have to write analyses every week while working part-time and studying jazz. I don't know why I do this to myself. I'm just trying to survive man.
I don't know how to write. I have no idea where the inspiration for a story is supposed to come from and I have no idea how you're even supposed to make sentences to form that story. Books, even bad books I hate, make it seem so easy, but when I try I have no idea how I'm supposed to write something or what I'm supposed to write about or why.
>>7646676
I am. Just not very often. I wrote a novel in a month and kinda burned out after that. I'm only about 19 pages (handwritten, probably at least twice that when typed out) into my next one, but it's going slowly.
it took me 2 ? 1 and 1/2? years to finish infinite jest i took a lot of breaks for many months, the second half i mostly listened to in audiobook. I knew if i quit i would never be able to read it again. I am probably a stupid person compared to people here, and i don't know what infinite jest is about but it makes me sad. I can't tell you just like hallie
It's my best friend's birthday next week and I would like to offer him a book (he's a book lover). He likes sci-fi and novels set in medieval times.
What do you recommend? (he's 16)
Don Quixote
>>7645482
I'm pretty sure he's read it for school.
>>7645726
I doubt it
It seems like /lit/ doesn't really talk about Bukowski
What do you guys think about the author who used to go to bed piss drunk every day?
talentless hack. books for non-readers.not literature.
He's fantastic. /lit/ has a hate boner for him. They are merely defensive and acting out of contrarian response to his popularity.
>>7645354
pleb detected
Memes and shitposting aside. What do you really think about this guy and his work? and explain why.
I hope you are capable of such a task, /lit/.
Been here 3.5 years and haven't read him.
Prolly never will.
Good writer, but because he's too focused on the "ills of modern society" and about providing moral fiction for the issues of our era or whatever shit, he's never going to be canonized in literary history. Same with his buddy Jonathan Franzen. Their stuff is the definition of what Harold Bloom calls period pieces.
Smart guy, went to some dark places, could sound like your friend and this really incredible intelligence at the same time. The memekids have kinda soured him on me to be honest though blood relation
Have you read it?
If you haven't read it, why are you still pretending to like literature? Get off this board, illiterate swine.
read it three times faggot
That's not Women and Men
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