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Who is the modern Jules Verne?
>>8270951
Sadly, it's probably the Martian guy, or maybe Doctorow - SF has gone up its own arse rehashing tropes, practically none of it is about plausible near-future tech anymore.
>>8270951
There is no modern Jules Verne, partly because the world (including reading market) is incomparably different today
Fortunately there's plenty of Verne to read
>>8271005
I can tell you that world today is bigger than it has ever been. I would gladly read exploration of Alpha Centauri or something like that.
Hey /lit/ghtbringers
What book or article or essay or any text has the most complicated prose and most advanced vocabulary?
Or just anything with a really hard vocabulary.
>>8270859
FW for the most complicated
>>8271028
>Fins Wake
>complicated
More like retarded and randumb xDD.
It's not complicated.
What could it be /lit/?
>>8270807
I missed this unpacking the book meme.
>>8270807
What can it possibly be...
>>8270807
Oh! Oh! Pick me, OP!
Is it a book?
didn't see one in the catalog, so figured I'd start one.
This is my little library, the back row on both shelves is all Warhammer 40,000, plus the missing One Punch Man volume
>>8270716
this is bait.
*slow claps*
*steps out of the shadows*
Heh... not bad, kid. Not bad at all. Your meme, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty dank... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material...
But memeing isn't all sunshine and rainbows, kid. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a Memester? To join those esteemed meme ranks? To call yourself a member of the Ruseman's Corps? Memeing takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class Memesters - I mean the big guys, like Johnny Hammersticks and Billy Kuahana - they're out there day and night, burning the midnight meme-oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big meme.
And you know what, kid? 99 times out of a hundred, that new meme fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's "tryhard," or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest shitpost copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate memers over at reddit. The Meme Game is rough, kid, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a rough business, and for every artisan meme you craft in your meme bakery, some cocksucker at 9gag has a picture of a duck or some shit that a million different Johnny No-Names will attach a milion different captions to. Chin up, kid. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive.
See you on the boards...
Bait, but props for LotGH.
>used to read all the time
>now have trouble cognitively understanding the words I'm reading
>I seem to just mentally skim a very surface understanding of what is going on and never feel like I'm penetrating into the plotlines or characters
>get a big headache after about three pages
This has happened consistently. Is there something wrong with my brain, /lit/? I'm seriously worried.
Weird, read that in Elliot's voice.
Weird show.
Get yourself a cup of black coffee and slowly sip it while reading your book, far away from any computers or cellphones. Force yourself to just get through 10-15 pages without stopping. When you get there you'll have "broken through" -- it's just like running. Ask any runner. The first mile is the hardest. Then the brain gives up fighting you on it, resigns itself to the task at hand, and sends endorphins shooting through the body.
Using your brain is like exercise. There's nothing *wrong* with it per se. You're just out of shape. Now do some calisthenics, force yourself to break the barrier. We believe in you OP.
>says xe loves to read
>doesn't read at least one book a day
>says he likes to read
>reads with footnotes that aren't from the author
>>8270661
how do you have time to read an entire book in one day every day.
i can do this from time to time, but one a day?
>>8270731
think of how many hours you are spending not reading
convert them to hours spent reading
voila.
it's almost like magic
Hey /lit/ I saw this image and figured you could help explain to me why Platos Republic on here? I can't seem to draw the parellel between Trump and the phlisopher king society Plato proposed.
bcuz its for smart ppl breh, just like suits n shit
>>8270602
Probably something like the tyrannical soul comes from a democratic society
Maybe you're putting more thought into it than the person who made it did.
>Understanding others’ mental states is a crucial skill that enables the complex social relationships that characterize human societies—and that makes a writer excellent at creating multilayered characters and situations. Not much research has been conducted on the theory of mind (our ability to realize that our minds are different than other people’s minds and that their emotions are different from ours) that fosters this skill, but recent experiments revealed that reading literary fiction led to better performance on tests of affective theory of mind (understanding others’ emotions) and cognitive theory of mind (understanding others’ thinking and state of being) compared with reading nonfiction, popular fiction, or nothing at all. Specifically, these results showed that reading literary fiction temporarily enhances theory of mind, and, more broadly, that theory of mind may be influenced greater by engagement with true works of art. In other words, literary fiction provokes thought, contemplation, expansion, and integration. Reading literary fiction stimulates cognition beyond the brain functions related to reading, say, magazine articles, interviews, or most online nonfiction reporting
http://qz.com/714987/what-you-read-matters-more-than-you-might-think/
Discuss, /lit/.
i have been saying this for ages. I think it's vitally important for the socially impaired or high functioning autistics to be forced to read and evaluate literary fiction at a young age as a part of therapy and etc.
My theory is that the inclination to read is an evolved coping mechanism to being an autist, almost like if men with micropenises were drawn naturally to finger-banging manuals. Therefore this board.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042814029243
What other language(s) do you know, what books have you read in languages other than English?
pic related
>>8270578
>pic related
You speak roach?
>>8270586
turkish, yes
>>8270578
Learning Russian so I can read Dostoevsky in a comfy apartment living in Yekaterinburg
What's this guy's IQ? Must be at least 180.
Also, what's his endgame?
is that the malnourished jew from the big bang theory?
>>8270564
no its manny fresh
What's this guy's IQ? Must be at least 180.
Also, what's his endgame?
Any recommendations for books about warfare?
>>8270494
Paradoxes of Defence by George Silver is a fun read
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/paradoxes.html
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>>8270494
>>8270494
Basics/Start here:
1)Sun Tzu - The Art of War
1b)Zhuge Liang's and Liu Ji - Commentaries on the Art of War
2)Niccolo Machiavelli - The Art of War
3)Niccolo Machiavelli - The Prince
4)Jomini - The Art of War
5)Clausewitz - On War
6)Miyamoto Musashi - The Book of Five Rings
Urban/Guerilla Warfare:
7)Che - Guerrilla Warfare
8)Mao - On Guerrilla Warfare
8b)Mao - Problems of Strategy in Guerrilla War Against Japan
9)David Kilcullen - Counterinsurgency
9b)David Kilcullen - Out of the Mountains
10)IRA Green Book
10b)Patrick Pearse - Fianna Handbook
11)Tiqqun - Introduction to Civil War
12)Max Boot - Invisible Armies
13)US Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual
14)Carlos Marighella - Minimanual of the Urban Guerilla
Scientific Approach/Analysis:
15)William Spaniel - Game Theory 101: The Rationality of War
15b)William Spaniel - Game Theory 101: The Complete Textbook
16)Science, Strategy and War: The Strategic Theory of John Boyd
17)Lawrence Freedman - Strategy
18)Ed. Thomas J. Cutler - The U.S. Naval Institute on Naval Strategy
19)Thesis: Military Intelligence in the New Zealand Land Wars, 1845-1864. - Clifford Roy Simons
Ancient Wars:
20)Julius Caesar - Commentaries on the Gallic War
21)Maurice - Strategikon (recommended twice)
22)Kautilya - Arthashastra (also largely economics)
23)Tucidides - The History of the Peloponnesian war (recommended thrice)
24)Xenophon - Cyropaedia
24b)Anabasis
25)Renatus - De Re Militari
26)Arrian - Campaigns of Alexander (recommended twice)
27)Asser - Life of King Alfred.
28)The Roots of Strategy series.
29)Ross Cowan - Roman Battle Tactics 109BC-313AD
30)Vita Karoli Magni
Modern Warfare (WW2 onwards):
31)Rommel - Infantry Attacks
32)Jünger - Storm of Steel
32b)Jünger - On Pain
33)Toshi Yoshihara and James R. Holmes - Red Star Over The Pacific
34)David Evans & Mark Peattie - Kaigun
N/A:
35)Jocko Willink - Extreme Ownership.
36)Seven Pillars of Wisdom - T. E. Lawerence
37)Learning to eat soup with a knife - John Nagl
There are some disputed lines (995-1005) in Antigone that I found to be perfectly reasonable, and consistent with her character. Goethe, and ancient Greek scholars seem to think otherwise. Goethe wishes to reject them entirely.
>Never, I tell you.
>If I had been the mother of children
>Or if my husband died, exposed and rotting--
>I'd never have taken this deal upon myself,
>Never defied our people's will.
>Etc
I'm reading the introduction to the penguin edition translated by Fagles. Knox (who writes the introductions) seem to think Antigone is some pious girl devoted especially to the underworld. But to me this was never the case, she was entirely devoted to her family. The "unwritten laws" do not necessarily concern the gods but the family.
So is there any good justification for these lines? Because the introduction in this book seems to more -or- less denounce them though not as fervently as Goethe, who wished that these lines were interoperated rather genuine.
I agree.
>>8270490
What is the context? I don't have the book with me.
Anyway, she seems to say she is, or would be, devoted to her living family above all else, especially those who depend on her for their survival (children), and only then would she perform her duties to the dead. She is adamant in her resolve to bury her brother only because she doesn't have anything more important than her life to lose, like a nuclear family. She also mentions the will of the people whom she wouldn't break, had she had something really worth fighting for. But let's not forget who she is: she is a broken woman, the impure issue of an abominable marriage, her father and mother are dead, her brothers too, nobody would marry her and she knows her only living sibling is better off staying away from her. Her duty to the dead is the only meaningful act left to her.
It seems like Sophocles wants to nuance her apparent fanaticism in getting the proper burial done in spite of all odds and all sense.
If you ask me if it fits with the rest, yeah, why not? Why shouldn't Antigone be nuanced? I read this some time ago but I do remember that she expresses regret at some point for not being able to live a fulfilled life and marry Kreon's son. On the other hand, she barely acknowledges his infatuation, if at all. Still, I don't think one should view these contradictions as inconsistencies or worse, inauthentic passages. I choose to see it as the inner struggle of a complex character.
I read this quite a while ago, I don't remember it all that well and I've never read any critical studies of it, not even the intro, so if you think I'm way off the mark, I might be. I wouldn't even have chimed into your thread hadn't I seen you bumping it with no replies.
Take a look at the lines up to 1005 that are after what you greentexted, without the "etc.":
Never, I tell you.
if I had been the mother of children
or if my husband died, exposed and rotting--
I'd never have taken this ordeal upon myself,
never defied our people's will. What law,
you ask, do I satisfy with what I say?
A husband dead, there might have been another.
A child by another too, if I had lost the first.
But mother and father both lost in the halls of Death,
no brother could ever spring to light again.
For this law alone I held you first in honor.
She's especially devoted to the Underworld only insofar as she recognizes that to do her biological family honor, she must bury the dead and fulfill that divine law. If it had just been a husband or her children that were dead and out there rotting, she would not have transgressed Creon's laws, because she does not, as someone who would be in a position to acquire those things again, owe them that, but her relationship with her brother and parents is not something that can ever be replaced.
Are any of these worth of the time?
/lit/ lists usually have good books. Ignore shit like "starter" kit. I like pic related, but none of it matters - just read good shit. Don't rely on on anonymous anime picture board to tell you what to think.
How do you guys feel about him? I just finished reading Snow Country and Thousand Cranes, really enjoyed them
Also general Japanese literature thread
one of the GOATs
plebs can't into him cause he's "boring"
hardly ever discussed here cause people are too busy memeing murakami and mishima
read master of go senpai.
>>8270408
Master of Go is next on my list
I've read most of Murakami, Soseki, and Mishima at this point, who else am I missing?
>>8270516
A fuck load. Tanizaki, Inoue, Dazai, Akutagawa, Abe, Oe, Eiji, Endo and Hearn (not Japanese but pretty much). That's more than enough to keep you going. All of them are good, all are worth reading. Tanizaki, Inoue, Dazai write like Kawabata (Tanizaki and Inoue especially). Akutagawa wrote wonderfully imaginative and strange short stories in his early career before settling into semi-autobiographical stories later on. Abe is known as the Japanese Kafka. I don't even know how to describe Oe. He has one novella which is one huge knock against Mishima which you might like. Eiji writes big popular samurai novels. Sort of puply but puply in the way Master and Commander is, not Game of Thrones. Endo and Hearn due to their relationships with the west (Endo is a catholic and Hearn is an American) write works which help to bridge a gap between Japan and the west. Endo's writers are all about the difficulty that the Japanese have with understanding Christianity and Hearn writes for a western audience.
What are some good books for a kid younger than ten? I think my little brother needs some schoolin'.
You can always give him Harry Potter, it's a shit, but fine for children
or some of Terry Pratchet's books
>>8270363
The Hobbit
>>8270363
Redwall series
My Side of the Mountain
Where the Red Fern Grows
Stuart Little
Charlotte's Web
Goosebumps
Harry Potter
