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I equate Schopenhauers concept of Qualitas Occulta (the riddle of the world itself which cannot be fathomed) with the Lacanian Real; Specifically the second order Real (that which is impossible to signify). The supposed set of all signifiers, that which is a paradox. Gravity is an analogous example of this. it lies completely outside the chain of causation. The cause of a stone falling to the ground when it is dropped is not gravity, it is the nearness of the earth. Take away the earth, and the stone will not fall. Gravity itself is an original force, which lies outside of spatio-temporality. The Lacanian cause of desire (object A) can be thought about in the same way. It lies outside of linguistic structure, it is lack that cannot be articulated, lack that has not yet been signified and therefore cannot become desire. It is an impossibility, its essence is one of nonbeing, yet it still functions within the symbolic structure
>>7728412
Almost. The object petitie a (the object of our desire) falls in line with the Symbolic Realm. Desire is structured by language subconsciously, driven by ideological discourse. When people interpret ideologies to be true, then they fall into the Imaginary Realm.
The object petite a is seen as the “Other.” For Lacan, however, signifying “Others” is to be lost in symbolic representations. As he says himself: “The Woman does not exist.” This is not a misogynistic statement, but rather an acknowledgment that gender identity (which differs from what sex we are born as) is completely socially constructed, making it imaginary. Hence, also explaining his statement about the male penis being the square-root of minus one. (Note: the square-root of minus one is an “imaginary” number. Get the pun?)
The Real is that which cannot be discussed. It is the silence of the stars sitting in the depths of space. As Korzybski stated: "The map is not the territory." We can label reality, but the label is not the thing in and of itself. Lacan relates this to a mathematical limit. We can approach zero, getting closer and closer to it, but never actually reaching it outright. Similarly, we can get close to the Real, but never actually attain it through symbolic language. Our language is “incomplete” (in Godel’s sense), making Truth inexpressible and outside of our ability to attain.
I can't Lacan and haven't Schopenhauer. What exactly is his signifier? Is it the articulated or that which is potentially signified?
> Specifically the second order Real (that which is impossible to signify)
>The supposed set of all signifiers, that which is a paradox.
The Real is the set of all signifiers? Does that mean a signifier lies in the Real and is to be (or not if lvl.2) articulated?
Can you squeeze in archetypes in there?
>>7728485
>Is it the articulated or that which is potentially signified?
Sorry, meant potentially articulated*
What are your thoughts on Hal Incandenza?
Literally: WHO THE FUCK IS THAT?
I identify with his inability to identify.
so does he sneak off to get high because he likes being high or is it like a metaphor for his need to mask his inner turmoil and like symbolic of his coping through numbing
hmmm...
What are books that would inspire me to conquer my social phobia?
>>7726485
>conquer my social phobia
Cutting off anime might help.
>Conquer social anxiety
>Am exactly the same mute I was before except without the anxiety part
Don't fucking bother, lol.
How to Win Friends and Influence People is a good start.
Memelords may talk shit about the book but pretty much all of it is legit if you read closely, has nothing to do with being a kissup or a pretender. He straight up says people will know if you're just bullshitting to fake interest.
Let's try something, /lit/
Give me the most interesting, unusual, intelligent, or rarely seen words in the English language. Looking form some new vocabulary to share with my students.
>>7725155
pogrom
bestprinter
etc.
Do you want some other Russian words in English language?
>>7725162
Keep going
Sinister
Why does everyone have a hard on for H. P. Lovecraft?
He's a really deep author, unafraid to explore the dark depths of the unknown, much unlike contemporary authors like Brian Sanderson or Margaret Weiss.
Where is this sea of erection? Nothing but hate for this garbage here.
Also not well loved in sjw territory. Named his cat niggerman.
He is not loved by the 'mainstream' and his terrible prose sure as hell aren't loved in academia.
I think by 'everyone' you mean 'everyone' on certain plebeian sites/boards.
ITT: We compile a list of books one pretty much should have read before posting on /lit/, one at a time.
I'll start with War and Peace.
the complete works of william shakespeare
>>7727780
lost already. peace out /lit/
The Bible
just the OT or the NT is fine
How fucked is he? Is he even a good novelist?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/salman-rushdie-iranian-state-media-renew-fatwa-on-satanic-verses-author-with-600000-bounty-a6887141.html
lmao
He's not fucked at all. Salmon patty's got British service men protecting him in perpetuity.
Prophet's hair was really enjoyable, but still pomo as hell.
yes he's a good novelist
it's pretty shitty but he'll be ok, don't know if he'll fix his hoverhand though
Who are some great playwrights besides Shakespeare?
pic related
Johnson
Beckett
Sophocles
Chekov
>>7725076
No need to know them. The Tempest is the greatest peace of playwright comedy ever created. You may as well as just end your life right now, knowing that it will never be surpassed.
Hebbel is underrated tbqh
Hey /lit/, I've lost my ability to fall in love with girls/women for over a year now...
Is there any book I can read that may rekindle my heart?
Infinite Jest
>>7721965
How old are you
same, all i think about is getting money, having a gf doesn't pay the rent
Where do I start if I want to read about aesthetics?
I feel like other branches of philosophy have pretty good road maps for getting into, but I don't know about this one.
>>7720657
A e s t h e t i c s ?
Nipple leash
Kant, Adorno, Benjamin, Heidegger
Plotinus, though not relevant anymore, also tackles aesthetics in a very interesting way IMO
Is this accurate?
you're truly an autist if you need a chart to read an author.
>>7727423
Read the chart retard.
General chart thread to salvage this shit. I'll start off by asking for the 11 charts on philosophy.
What should I read before getting into Camus?
Camus.
A better idea would be to not read Camus haha
>>7726757
Why so?
HOW 2 MOTIVATE WRITING?
cocaine & hard liquor
>>7726715
Writers don't write because they want to, but because they have to.
Smoking helped my creativity when I was younger for some reason.
What was the fucking point of telling the masses every couple of years that the enemy was a different one? If they had full control of the information why they just didn't invent a permanent one?
Is orwell such a hack that he portrayed the party as retards just for the sake or proving the point that people were totally alienated by them?
To keep the masses afraid and dependent on the establishment. To prevent the stagnation of fear of the enemy
>>7725267
Having the same enemy for years on end would increase the chances of war weariness, as well as making the government seem incompetent.
"Oh, we've been fighting the African Negro Freedom Coalition for 40 years now? Why does it seem we're never good enough to beat them?"
>>7725267
it is well explained when Winston reads Goldstein's book.
>would of
> doggy dog world
>>7722254
I read this one in a paper that I recently graded:
>the ability to be able to
>>7722276
Oh lawdy. I actually lol'd at that. People don't actually say this do they?
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