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This book was incredible and got me into a lot of literature. It has themes that are sleeper than simple 'Mary sue' YA. It has a plot that is thought provoking to this day.
I feel YA has a bad rap, with Greene and Rowling running amok when there is still stuff out there that does good and is a ramp into better literature.
most everything by David Levithan gets my stamp of approval, though I'm a gayfag so I guess that's expected
also
>Greene
Haha oh man, I remember reading this in like 5th or 6th grade. I don't even remember what it was about, but I remember blowing through it.
>>7723616
Read the wiki article on it man. It will come back to you heavy.
hey /lit/ i have a problem, i have to deliver a paper based on postmodernity but i cant write for shit, i gave my teacher a draft and he told me that he was going to make me not pass the course unless i improved
he told me to use the inverted pyramid method because according to him he cant understand shit(his actual words) and if i dont know how to write like a college student i have no right to pass the course even if i did my research (and i did)
this is the order im going to write
-Postmodernity, history of it
-meta, lyotard and his ideas, the idea of people who make decisions
-modernity vs modernization
-postmodernity in music(the subject of the paper im doing)
-postmodern art
-examples of postmodernism in the arts
is it a good, or should i change something, i dont know where to ask
What course is this?
Your structure looks fine but I'm not sure if that is the problem.
>>7722627
its for the second course regarding the thesis, dude failed me on the midterms because my writing was shit, he even told me you have all the information you needed and you obviously did your research but i cant pass someone who writes like shit
>>7722627
its for the theoritical framework btw
Is Cicero worth reading? Did he make any contributions to philosophy as a whole outside of Rome? Are his writings easy to read or difficult?
>>7722225
Dunno
His latin can be pretty difficult, yes. Not the most abstruse one, but he had his own quirks about archaic expressions and his way of composing phrases even got his own name, concinnitas ciceroniana.
Topics are mainly stoicism and rhetoric.
If you're interested in latin texts you shouldn't skip him.
his Philippics can be funny especially when he's bashing Marc Antony
Which program do you guys use to write? There is any good program for this kind of stuff or just generic thing like office?
How do you guys write? I mean, with complete silence, listening to music, listening to ambient sounds, drinking, smoking, during the night, the day? Tell me about your writhing habits.
These days I use Noisli.com and use the rain sounds for both my reading and my writing. It keeps my mind at ease as I write
>>7721879
Which program do you use?
Well folks, today I'll be going to McKay's, a really big used bookstore in Nashville. I would appreciate it if you could recommend me some books based on what I'm looking for, and tell me if the books I'm already looking for are any good.
JR (Gaddis)
The Castle (Kafka)
Wittgenstein’s Mistress (Markson)
Waiting for Godot (Beckett)
Against Nature (Huysmans)
Crash (Ballard)
No Longer Human (Dazai)
>>7721538
That store looks comfy as fuck
>>7721538
yeah boy that's all good shit.
look for empire of the sun/the kindness of women by ballard
if you haven't read burroughs, get everything they have.
if you're lucky enough to find some brion gysin, that's good shit too.
>>7722334
I had the exact opposite reaction. There are people above you. I don't want to be watched while I'm looking at books. It also just looks kind of soulless in general.
Is he right?
He's a posturing faggot. I do not believe he actually read most of those.
>>7732909
Why do you believe that?
>>7732909
whether he is a posturing faggot or not what he said is mostly true
Has there ever been a book to really tackle pedophelia? Lolita of course, but Humpford was characterized as a manipulative child rapist. I mean, is there any books that show a normal guy actually struggling and suffering with falling in love with a child, probably killing himself at the end? I figure a book like that would be banned, but I'm just checking.
>>7726828
>Humpford
My diary desunot really though
>Humpford Humpford
how did she not see it coming? he was in love with her car!
You know the deal. Review one, post one. Pic not related.
>>7725532
so post one
I awaken to a sea of red lights. A stationary blue reflection tells me we are standing idle. "München 21 km" is what I read while slowly blinking my vision into possession of clear margins. Turning left, i notice Vic's expression. His mouth slightly opened, eyes clear and focused; A blend of annoyance and concern. I am inclined to this interpretation because this is how I feel, too. The hour-long traffic jam has thrown a wrench in our plan. Until the fucking jam, every little thing went according to our expectations. Perfectly. The mass, the bomb, the panick, down to our escape by scooter. Al-Fah - the damned lunatic - is sure as hell laughing his extremist ass off right now. But for us two, a good mood like that is a long shot away. I've asked myself each question maybe a thousand times, but again the thoughts go through my head: Did anyone tail us? Did anyone read our license plate while we dumped our scooters into the tiber? Does anyone know who they are in a fucking traffic jam with? Everything not concerned with escaping is relegeated to the back of my head at the moment. Guilt and remorse are apparently not what one feels while fleeing the crime of a decade. Because of thinking ahead, I am not nervous. I am commited even more. Guilt is eventually going to catch up with me, I am sure. But until then, i will do all I can to cover for myself, for the rest of my life. Its funny and kind of ironic how little meaning life has after taking so many. Slipping into remorse. Into feeling guilt. Thats what I am doing? Be the guy you thought you were, you fuck. Vic turns toward me, asking what the hell i was saying. Uh, it dont matter man. Talkin to myself. All nervous and stuff, you know. He nods and turns his head back toward the torpid road, audibly gritting his teeth. Does this heartless asshole think like me? Does he dare to think he is like me? Just going according to plan, not hesitating for one step along the way? He just does it for himself; he wants to live in a mansion in the carribean for the rest of his life? Poor Joey will never know what i did for him. What else can a former convict do to get a good life for his family and himself, huh? I know I could have prevented this. But how can one survive in my situation without being self-reliant? Like I cared for any one of those deluded faggots anyway. I cared less than the motherfucker Al-Fah for sure. He is fueled by hatred, I am fueled by love for my son and my life. My right to live. We start moving again. I think about how I am going to do it. Should I wait until we are past Germany? Would the job still be worth it without one more kill? Isn't one more a ridiculously low price for doubling my fee? Sure is. Why the hell am I such a wuss again? I will be in papers for centuries to come. Rich and famous. Good to my son. Desiree would be so proud. I am not a no-good yardbird anymore. I am providing for Joey. I wonder if she looks upon me now.
>>7726045
2/2 Everything is going to be alright. Ay, Vic? Yeah? Take the next exit, i need to piss. Vic looks at me intently, then grumbles, signalling his giving in. I wonder why I dont feel anything right now. So this is cold blood isn't it. Or is it because I am as righteous as I could be in my situation? Killing another damned murderer. Only one bad human being left from a deed of two. We come to a halt. A small forest. Only one truck at the roadside. The driver is surely sleeping. I get out and after I open my pants, everything goes as planned once again. Vic runs toward me. The pitiful ass really expected me to be distracted. As if I'd trust an imbecile like him. I turn around shortly before he hits me, and grab him by the neck. I bring the fuck to the ground as hard as I can and hear a soft crack. I stomp on his skull until it changes form and produces a mushy sound. I look around. My vision fixes on the bystanding truck; I panick and get into the car, driving away as fast as I can. After a few mind-numbed miles, tears well up. Why the fuck am I crying? Why! The! Fuck! 30 Million fucking Dollar for myself! I notice I am screaming. Tears blurr my vision. Still screaming i turn the wheel left and left, until i don't see red lights anymore.
Are they the two best American authors, or simply the most admired? Which do you prefer and why?
>>7730081
No. That title belongs to Gaddis, Hawkes, or Gass (McElroy, maybe?). And though I do quite like Pynchon, I'd have to say Faulkner is, in terms of style and ideas, a better author (whatever that means).
>>7730097
how do you determine who deserves the title? why?
>>7730126
In truth, no one does. I'm just playing along and trying to start a discussion about the authors I listed.
Any English majors on /lit/? Is it really as bad as everyone says it is?
Its as good as you want it to be
I switched to Marketing.
In what sense?
The job prospects aren't great compared to many other degrees, and it seems to be the type of degree where you will encounter a lot of people who aren't actually interested in the course or even reading, but just chose it because they were pushed to go to university and didn't know what else to pick (though this is true for basically every course, so i guess is more of a critique in general).
I'd only recommend doing one if you're already rich, or you live in a country that isn't going to put you into debt for taking it.
>>7722106
I was, ended up switching into finance due to the "progressive" nature of the English department at my school.
I remember one of the lower division pre-requisites being called "Introduction to American Literary Tradition" and a majority of the texts were either nonfiction or just shit. As you can probably guess the professor was a woman- with this came the usual bias towards female readers but holy shit we didn't look at ANY male writers until halfway through the course (and even then we only conducted a brief analysis of Whitman's poem "The Wound-dresser"- which was, I believe, the best piece of literature in the course). Other than that the only other decent writers were Sharon Olds and Joan didion. We even spent a week talking about some batshit insane female mortician who makes YouTube videos. Absolute drivel.
10% of our grade consisted of a three page paper which necessitated a field trip to Bass Pro Shops. I shit you not, she asked us to perform a "spatial analysis of the store vis-a-vis a consideration of the discursive violence that it directs towards women and people of color".
Tl;dr Tumblr has pervaded almost every crevice of academia
What is the worst book you've ever read?
probably Taipei
the name of the rose - italian dan brown
Pet Sematary. I still can't believe I actually read that shit.
Well, I'm about 300 pages into Moby Dick, and it's starting to grate on me. I intend to finish it, but it's given me pause on whether or not I'm reading for myself, or reading for people I wish to impress, people like you. I know a lot of us have fun and express ourselves in a silly way, but I do genuinely feel a kinship with a lot of you, I aspire to be like some of you, and I often want respect from you. I just occasionally have moments where I'm not sure if it's truly for myself that I do this. Moby Dick has some of the greatest writing I have ever seen, but I am dreadfully bored by it, and the infinite digressions. I can't see the symbolism, and I'm not sure there is any. Maybe I'm not cut out for all of this. I love to read, but it's getting less and less often that I get hooked on a book anymore. I'm not sure there's a topic to this, maybe it's just general Moby Dick discussion. you guys decide. Just wanted to get some shit off my chest.
If you're not enjoying it then just stop reading it
>>7731076
Don't force yourself to read literature as some kind of self-improvement exercise, read it because you enjoy it. If you don't enjoy it then stop, and continue reading whatever it is you enjoyed beforehand.
It's possible, however, that you simply haven't developed the base level of knowledge regarding literature needed to appreciate novels like Moby Dick. You say that 'Moby Dick has some of the greatest writing I have ever seen', but I suspect you're saying that because you feel it is opinion you should have.
>>7731202
I just do that all the time. I don't want to waste my time on it, but I also don't want to just quit everything I start. Have you ever read it?
Like I said, the prose is absolutely incredible, I respect the man immensely. The problem, I fear, is me.
Alright I've been here a few weeks and I'm thoroughly enjoying my time.
I love how picky some of you are. It's hilarious.
So I'd like you guys to rip apart my book shelves and tell me what's not up to /lit standards and should be burned. Also how did I do without your infinite wisdom.
Any suggestions based on the books I have would be sweet. You guys have opened my eyes to lots of books so far.
Another
Seccond last
Gf's books sprinkled in here
>go to a top 20 university to study English Literature
>it's actually just a gender studies degree
>>7723045
It is if you make it so.
When you select your classes you have to specifically avoid any modern lit 20th century onward. Also avoid electives designed to interpret old texts through a contemporary lens.
If you see a class that is 100% dedicated to a single based author or book then you ought to choose that class.
All university courses are far-left indoctrination fampai. It should've been pretty much expected just going into it.Except for the STEM majors*<:^)
>>7723045
Ehhhh any of the humanities are cancer these days. We need a good war. Make people appreciate just being alive again.
Can you believe this crap? There's this big writer in my country (the biggest actually, he was even in the Nobel award discussion the last few years) who talks about his art like he was still in 1600. Like, he doesn't 'try' to write, doesn't do research or anything, it all comes naturally, like a fetus growing inside an impregnated woman. He is impregnated by divine inspiration. He say's the process is so smooth and easy. And he writes 800 page convoluted Pynchonesque stuff. He says that when he writes, he never looks back, never edits or correct, never scratches off or deletes a word. He only writes by hand with ball point pen and paper. Is he full of shit or just crazy?
>>7730213
That how one should write, idiot
>>7730213
Sounds like aspergers.
No joke. Some aspergers are gifted.
>>7730213
Full of shit.
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