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Can someone explain the 'prose' meme

I've been lurking here a while, but I still don't get this particular /lit/ meme of 'good prose'

Tell me /lit/, what makes 'good prose'

>I don't personally like a piece of literature so I'll simply attack it as being 'bad prose'
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>>8096735
It's simply if you think it's written well.
Many people hate prose stylists like McCarthy, although i've never met people who read a lot that don't absolutely adore him.
It just comes down to taste.
That, and not being boring as fuck, like Franzen.
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>>8096735
Do you go on /mu/ and ask people to explain the "good music" meme? Fuck off.
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Some guy will tell you something stupid like "good prose is 'normal writing' that pretends to be poetry",

but its not true

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I struggled to reach page 90 of pic related and I just don't get it.

The book is boring, not very well written (cheap metaphores, silly dialogue), and the atmosphere feels like a cheap copy of Less than zero, but with iPhones and different drugs. This novel describes the lives of people who are representative of nothing. Rich drunk kids with ridiculous problems who are unable to communicate.

Thoughts on this book? Should I finish it, or would it be better to pick up something else?
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thats an attractive photo...
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his other stuff is better. I also disliked taipei. try to make it to the end though.
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>>8096577
What makes his other stuff better? What would you recommend? Thanks.

are there any books that describe extreme alienation from society? It doesn't have to be super too deep for you stuff, like dostoyevsky or pessoa. It can be weird stories like the wasp factory, no longer human, child called it, the perks of being a wallflower, whatever. I just want a character that I can sympathize with. I'm looking for losers, loners, outcasts, people extremely alienated from society. I haven't read no longer human, but I plan on reading that eventually.
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And the ass saw the angel
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>>8095103
>2deep
>Dostoevsky

Stay off this board
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>>8095153
no you can't make me you fucking dick.

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>In the end, he realized it was the year 2666.
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>"What longitude is this sir?"
>"We're at the blood meridian"
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>And they all gathered to attend Finnegan's wake.
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>"I've now realized for the first time in my life the vital Importance of Being Earnest"
>mfw

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Any books on how to be more self centered/narcissist?
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You're probably already there like most people in this society
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>>8093814
thanks
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Philfag here. I have a philosophy professor at Harvard who I feel was intellectually abusing his philosophy undergrads. He assigned us inhuman amounts of philosophy homework and taught his classes like we were born already doing graduate philosophy while still gestating in our mother's wombs. He even smugly enjoined (probably jokingly though) that anyone who wasn't at the level of Wittgenstein or Kant intellectually speaking would be better off dropping the course; that, he said would intellectually behoove them in the long-run. He forced us to read the Critique of Pure Reason in less than a week and a half, expecting anyone who couldn't symbolically or modally represent the chapters on Transcendental Aesthetic, to wit, Kant's proofs of space-time being an a priori form of intuition that made experience possible, that they'd be dropped from the course de facto: they'd receive, automatically, the lowest grade.

Not only that, but when we couldn't represent parts of Hegelian logic using Kripke–Platek set theory in class he'd call us idiots or retards. Obviously he has tenure or else he wouldn't say those things. If we riposted with anything, he'd say the Holy Ghost is watching and he's gonna send us to hell. This, patently meant that we'd get a low grade. Everyone already knew that. It was almost impossible to get an A in that class unless you were able to turn the whole field of philosophy on its head. For him an A was completely original work, Socratic/Kant-tier.

The class is dehumanizing, dreadful, and I have no other choice but to keep learning with him because my focus intertwines with his. At the same I love philosophy, but I can't handle learning with this guy. He's even blackmailed students who didn't complete their homework, and literally stopped teaching the class one day to find a student who didn't show up. It's fucking ridiculous. I need help.

Pic related, he made this face every time we were doing something wrong or just before he'd call us a "Derridean idiot."

What should I do?
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>>8093663
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If this is true i wish i was in your class.
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stay in the class so you can write a book about him afterward. make sure to also write in some eccentric/lovable teacher who gets fired by the big bad boss. also write in a love interest with a big butt. then, make lots of money.

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>Tfw actually starting with the Greeks

So what am I in for, friendos?
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>>8093648
A pretty good time
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>buying penguin's republic
Nice one!
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>not realizing that starting with the greeks is a meme developed by autists
have fun with the homework

Literally everyone who says Camus' books are crappy have only read one of his books (The Stranger) and translated to English.

Just pick up The Fall. The whole thing is just a beautiful monologue. It's brilliant, even in English.
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>>8093086

Sartre is smart. Camus is a poo.
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>>8093331
Sartre is shit and a tankie.
Camus was good man anarchist, most sensible existentialist.
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>>8094897
Camus was an anarchist? I always thought he was very hard to pin down politically, which if I'm not mistaken had a lot to do with why he split with Sartre.

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>The two grandfathers of modern psychology, Sigmund Freud (1856-1939) and Carl Jung (1875-1961), both had a deep admiration for Nietzsche and credited him with many insights into the human character.

what did they see in him?
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He wasn't a nazi prick, he just refuted nihilism - something almost every poster on this board fails to do personally
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>>8091936
He gives incredible insight into emotions like resentment and the animal side of man.
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>>8091947
Lol spoork lmao x))))

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About to read this.

What am I in for?
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It's the bomb

Explosive good fun
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>>8090640

Religious poetry, most of it in a positive tone
A great number of characters familiar to the Judeo-Christian narrative, in stories significantly different from the Bible originals
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>>8090640
considering this is 4chan you'll probably be in for the surprise that nowhere does it ever condone murder

Metamorphosis by Kafka.

He's a whiny little snot and just plane miserable throughout the entire book. So much so that even when he turns into an insect, I was still thinking "dude, quit being a little bitch."

And knowing that Kafka was equally whiny and miserable... He basically wrote a book with himself as a main character.

I have a hard time not finishing things, yet I was still unable to complete this short book. It was just too much. I stopped reading near the end, and a college classmate filled me in on the conclusion.
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I just started Angels & Demons because I wanted a comfy adventure mystery but I didn't expect it to be filled with cliches right from the very beginning. But I'll enjoy it anyway. Because I want to.
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I guess /lit/ is just bait now.
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>>8087589
I read that and then the Da Vinci code when I was in high or intermediate school and enjoyed them.

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Post 'em, /lit/.
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rate me
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>>8070778

eric, simply eric.

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Does anyone have the full text of julius evolas defense speech at his trial?
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>>8099763
DEUS VULT!!!
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>>8099763
Was he persecuted for misunderstanding Nietzsche or just being a huge fag in general
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>>8099779

Thanks faggot, I'm trying to write a historical essay, and I don't have time to ask those fags at the fash archivers on cripplechan because they literally take weeks to answer.

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r8?
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>>8099665
What are you implying with that chart? What do you mean with sort of smart?
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Unnecessary.
I predict that your thread will get a couple nibbles and die quietly.
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>>8099665
true

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Hey /lit/ what is the best order to read the KJV? I was thinking of reading it back to front normally. Would this be a bad move? I've seen a lot of Bible reading plans but they seem to leave out large sections of it in favour of choice parts only.
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>>8099636

>back to front normally

whoops

front to back normally**
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>>8099636
>needing help with how to read a book

pls go back to your anime and 'vidya'

>>>/r9k/
>>>/a/
>>>/pol/
>>>/lgbt/
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>>8099642

I don't play video games, nor do I watch anime. I'm actually a reader, I just haven't gotten around to reading this yet and it's beyond time.

Stop this memekid shit; it's pointless.

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