Do fiction books serve any other purpose besides entertainment?
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Yes it does. Unless you're one of those fucks to whom 'entertainment' can mean anything.
>>7438814
Elaborate please.
>>7438820
emotional support in times of dire stress,
life changing ideas that are necessarily fictional in nature, the communication of the imagination rather than a transfer of facts or axioms...
There are no good posts on /lit/ because all the wouble-be good posters write academically instead of posting on a Chinese imageboard full of plebs.
there are good posts on /lit/ you just have to ask and ignore the shitposts. like in the poetry thread a good anon is doing god's work, there was a very successful intro to foucault thread earlier today and the vasily grossman thread is pretty non-aids.
>>7438547
Yeah the Foucault one was good.
>>7436837
This has a good post in it
>>7436944
Also pic related
>reading in the subway
>can't focus on the content because of the girls who try to chat me on about my book
everytime, no wonder it takes me ages to finish a book desu
Just ignore her, that's what I do. Or sound pretentious, that does the trick too. Remnder that grisl only read with their holes, so holding a conversation about books is useless.
>>7438522
>only read with their holes
what? do they have built in scanners?
>>7438510
Since you're on /lit/, you're not monolingual. Start speaking in one of the other languages you know and then say, "English only good in reading."
Pen or keyboard?
Pencil.
Pencil.
Keyboard.
Quicker, easier to spot mistakes, doesn't hurt your wrist after a while, can do research without moving.
About to read this.
What am I in for?
>>7438369
words, one after the other.
>>7438369
Mediocre book for teengers.
>>7438373
But, what is the matter?
Do you know some good historical novel set in a alternate medieval age?
>>7438342
I like this kind of stuff, but how alternate can medieval get?
I guess the Pern series. That's pretty medieval. Space dragon feudal system. There's a lot of attention given to the system and how it changes. I at least, think it's pretty interesting.
>Asking about genre-fiction
Bernard Cornwell writes some pretty good stuff. His Arthur trilogy, Saxon series, Grail series and some oneoffs
house of leaves BLOWS!!!!
>>7438326
I liked it desu.
it's ok
it's better if you read lots of academic texts
>>7438340
it's worse if you read all the stuff danielewski's ripping off
can someone post the things fall apart "what i expected what i got" picture with the YAMS?
thx
Got u pham
>>7438391
i thot yams was invisible man
>>7438391
thx bae, trying to summarize things fall apart for someone and realized this picture is all i needed
I can't imagine the current generation of young British men being capable of producing the plethora of poetry which their great-grandfathers did.
Is this evidence of a decline in literary ability?
>>7438312
No, it's evidence of personal bias.
Your musings mean nothing, objectively.
>>7438312
islamic culture discourages literature
>>7438329
>Who are the Sufis?
Can we discuss Matthew 16:18 from an Orthodox perspective?
"Petros" means a stone that can be easily moved (generally small enough to throw), whereas "petra" means a stone that cannot be moved (a massive boulder or a cliff). So it's pretty clear Christ was saying, "Moreover to you I say that you are [wavering] stone, I build my Church on this, [probably indicating himself, Matthew 16:16] the [unmovable, mountainous] rock.
Indeed, Peter is a wavering stone, he ends up denying Christ and committing apostasy (though he certainly repents and is a saint and martyr), despite being Christ's most ardent disciple.
> A reconstructed Aramaic/Syriac of the passage would properly be:
>"You are KE'PHA' (a movable stone) and upon this SHU`A' (a large massive rock) I will build my church."
>This is in exact correspondence to the original inspired Greek text:
>"You are PETROS (a movable stone) and upon this PETRA (a large massive rock) I will build my church.".
To close, I'm going to quote 1 Corinthians 10:1-4
>Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
>SHU'A'
Oy vey!
>>7438044
It probably comes from צוּר
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/6697.htm
Cephas comes from
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3721.htm
>>7437992
You make the mistake of assuming that Matthew is a direct transliteration of the account, as though a court reporter is there.
Also is this the original Greek that you're referencing or a newer adaptation?
So I just finished pic related. Is this book as straightforward as I think it is, or am I missing some critical pieces of understanding?
>The jungle is the great emulsifier of the human condition and stands as an opposing force to mankinds perceived dominance
>The lines between civilization and barbarity are a matter of perspective and largely a transplanted concept in foreign lands
>Kurtz takes the role of a fallen great, a man with so much power and potential brought low and made a savage equal in the dark heart of the jungle
>Despite the posturing and the preening we do as humans, the animal inside us has only been subdued, and our true colors show when we are confronted with things we cannot or refuse to understand
>Men are men as they are the world over. Savage is a term for people who do not fit European notions of "civilized"
I feel like there's actually a lot here I'm not getting or was it truly that straightforward?
>>7437970
the real horror is slogging through that shit in the first place.
>>7437972
I actually thought it was a nice short read. The language alone was rewarding enough to keep going. Didn't like it?
I think the idea is to present man as aliens. Conrad talks a lot about the size and scope of the jungle/river, hold old it all is. He's almost portraying us as trespassers attempt to bend the earth to our will. I want to say it could be a romantic (the art movement) boom based upon that alone, but I don't think that'd be missing the point entirely.
Why do people say Ulysses is hard? It's no more confusing than your average psychedelia.
Christ man you have the most feminine looking hands I've ever seen if that's you
>>7437932
Universally that person's acumen is esteemed very little perceptive concerning whatsoever matters are being held as most profitable by mortals with sapience endowed to be studied who is ignorant of that which the most in doctrine erudite and certainly by reason of that in them high mind's ornament deserving of veneration constantly maintain when by general consent they affirm that other circumstances being equal by no exterior splendour is the prosperity of a nation more efficaciously asserted than by the measure of how far forward may have progressed the tribute of its solicitude for that proliferent continuance which of evils the original if it be absent when fortunately present constitutes the certain sign of omnipollent nature's incorrupted benefaction. For who is there who anything of some significance has apprehended but is conscious that that exterior splendour may be the surface of a downwardtending lutulent reality or on the contrary anyone so is there inilluminated as not to perceive that as no nature's boon can contend against the bounty of increase so it behoves every most just citizen to become the exhortator and admonisher of his semblables and to tremble lest what had in the past been by the nation excellently commenced might be in the future not with similar excellence accomplished if an inverecund habit shall have gradually traduced the honourable by ancestors transmitted customs to that thither of profundity that that one was audacious excessively who would have the hardihood to rise affirming that no more odious offence can for anyone be than to oblivious neglect to consign that evangel simultaneously command and promise which on all mortals with prophecy of abundance or with diminution's menace that exalted of reiteratedly procreating function ever irrevocably enjoined?
>>7437935
I know, right, imagine getting a handjob from those hands, right? It'd probably feel really good, just like a woman's hands.
Structure discussion:
If You're going to write scifi/fantasy but want to deviate from the structure of Joseph Campbell's monomyth/heroes journey, what steps should be taken? What alternate routes would you use to get off the beaten path and forge your own path?
My own method was to have multiple characters "tag in/out to play the role of the hero.
Thoughts? comments?
I thought the point of the monomyth was that you can't deviate from it.
>>7437893
The Hero with a Thousand Faces discusses countless examples of variations and inversions to the formula though.
I want to write a story about a guy who gets court martialled for cowardice and put in isolation for the remainder of the war, then goes home to life out the rest of his life as an assistant mechanic in bumfuck nowhere, spending his nights wandering alone from empty bar to empty bar, his only companions a handful of anime figurines he keeps on the shelves of his dingy bedsit. In an attempt to give his life meaning, writes some fantasy novels, but facing rejection after rejection for decades, eventually gives up. A sort of roman à clef.
What sort of structure would you suggest for this?
I can't read a single paragraph without my mind wandering at least a little. It's incredibly frustrating as it's hard to stay focused on what I'm reading, and often have to re-read parts. For the love of God, help.
Just read more for fuck's sake seriously I'm so mad shit fuck
>>7437797
meditate prior to reading
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
How does one adhere to a habit of daily writing? I have plenty of projects, but between them I could go up to a week without writing, as of late. Especially getting home, and having only a few hours to do things like eat, clean, take phone calls, and get enough sleep to be up at six in the morning.
Obvious answer I guess is keep a journal or just write for five minutes before bed or whenever you can grab the time. But what if you have nothing to say?
>>7437769
Just Do It™
If you have nothing to say, make something up. Don't lust after results.
Also what do you mean, "take phone calls?" Is this the 90s?
>>7437791
He means he has phone sex with his ldr gf for three hours each day instead of writing.
